g5000
Diamond Member
- Nov 26, 2011
- 139,032
- 95,027
- 2,605
Show me the law.
Don't be manufacturing more bullshit to cover up the embarrassment of the wild assumptions made in the OP.
CAUGHT ON TAPE: Dem Operative Stuffs Ballot Box in Arizona (Video)
- Thread starter Vigilante
- Start date
Don't be manufacturing more bullshit to cover up the embarrassment of the wild assumptions made in the OP.
g5000
Diamond Member
- Nov 26, 2011
- 139,032
- 95,027
- 2,605
So now we have gone from a certainty that the video was showing ballot stuffing, to a hypothetical.
I guess that is best admission of a mistake we can expect from you.
g5000
Diamond Member
- Nov 26, 2011
- 139,032
- 95,027
- 2,605
I agree that allowing volunteers to go door to door to collect ballots and then carry them in to be voted is a process that can be corrupted.
It would be a simple matter of going door-to-door, registering people to vote. Then, at election time, going back to those same doors to collect ballots. Then, any homes that you registered that subsequently decided not to give you a ballot, you can fill out a fraudulent ballot in their name.
This type of fraud would carry some risk, though. A person may decide to vote in person and thus not give a ballot to the door-to-door guy. Then, if the door-to-door fraudster fills out a ballot, then the system would show the voter voted twice. Arizona has an electronic monitoring system that checks for double voting.
Such a scheme would be quickly discovered.
Voter ID would not stop it, but the electronic monitoring system would.
It would be a simple matter of going door-to-door, registering people to vote. Then, at election time, going back to those same doors to collect ballots. Then, any homes that you registered that subsequently decided not to give you a ballot, you can fill out a fraudulent ballot in their name.
This type of fraud would carry some risk, though. A person may decide to vote in person and thus not give a ballot to the door-to-door guy. Then, if the door-to-door fraudster fills out a ballot, then the system would show the voter voted twice. Arizona has an electronic monitoring system that checks for double voting.
Such a scheme would be quickly discovered.
Voter ID would not stop it, but the electronic monitoring system would.
LoneLaugher
Diamond Member
What? You mean that there is no tape of a "Democratic operative" stuffing a ballot box?
I'm so disappointed!
I'm so disappointed!
g5000
Diamond Member
- Nov 26, 2011
- 139,032
- 95,027
- 2,605
Actually, logic is not on your side. If a volunteer is allowed to pick up ballots, what difference does it make if he puts them in a locked box or a cardboard box? Either one can be "stuffed".
g5000
Diamond Member
- Nov 26, 2011
- 139,032
- 95,027
- 2,605
It is believed that LBJ won his first Senate seat by having a locked ballot box stuffed.
The implications for American history of that alleged crime are profound. Imagine the different course we may have taken if he had never even made it to the Senate, much less the White House.
Medicare, the Great Society, the war on poverty. Viet Nam. Civil Rights Act.
The implications for American history of that alleged crime are profound. Imagine the different course we may have taken if he had never even made it to the Senate, much less the White House.
Medicare, the Great Society, the war on poverty. Viet Nam. Civil Rights Act.
Last edited:
AvgGuyIA
Gold Member
Why do you deflect? Address the topic of this thread.
How exactly do Texas state laws apply to elections in Arizona?
these were early ballots, not ballots collected at a polling station.no, all that's been proven is that there is nothing illegal about delivering early voting ballots like that, and that there's nothing unusual about it.1is this what you do when you're caught posting bullshit? post pictures of even crazier people?
So far no one has proven it's bullshit.... it's all bullshit and opinion that the subversives post.
so jumping to the conclusion that it is both illegal and unusual would be bullshit, and is not supported by any 'evidence' posted.
you got took, kid. own up to it.
I believe you are wrong..."voted ballots to a locked or sealed ballot box, bag or pouch and deliver same to the election office."
http://www.eac.gov/assets/1/workflow_staging/Page/264.PDF
Arizona early ballots must be in a tamper proof envelope:
Format Document
AZ Ballot affadavit form:
Format Document
Early voter requirements
Format Document
Looks to me anyone that may have given this guy a ballot that was not sealed is guilty of voter fraud as well.
Format Document
AZ Ballot affadavit form:
Format Document
Early voter requirements
Format Document
Looks to me anyone that may have given this guy a ballot that was not sealed is guilty of voter fraud as well.
they don't all states are similar... I just started linking the AZ ones above.
Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
It is believed that LBJ won his first Senate seat by having a locked ballot box stuffed.
The implications for American history of that alleged crime are profound. Imagine the different course we may have taken if he had never even made it to the Senate, much less the White House.
Medicare, the Great Society, the war on poverty. Viet Nam. Civil Rights Act.
So these are all the reasons you proudly support and promote voter fraud?
You democrats view election fraud as a sacred right...
- Banned
- #134
.It's amazing. You can show liberals video of Democrats stuffing ballot boxes and they stand there and tell you it didn't happen.
A lot of Republicans complain about voter fraud. Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White actually committed it
So long as you’re a Republican, you won’t spend any time in jail for voter fraud. And, if you’re Charlie White, Indiana’s lucky, now-former Republican secretary of state who received just one year of home detention for all of those crimes, you’ll likely be “elated,” just as White was after his sentencing hearing last week.
Voter fraud retires shameless GOP official - Salon.com
December 07, 2011
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme
Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.
Fortunately, other members of the former Republican governor’s team will also stand trial for their role.
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme Political Animal The Washington Monthly
The irony is, the fraud Republicans are worried about is imaginary, while the real-world fraud is coming from their side of the political divide.
A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.
Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility.
A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud.
"Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.
Dem? Where did it say that? Stuffing? How? You realize EACH ballot will need to be signed right?
MORE of the usual right wing garbage, IMHO, of conservatives/GOP throwing out crap right before an election then having amnesia when nothing comes of it, as usual!!!
You can show where they were not signed?
They have to be signed and sealed if transported... or mailed. If they go into a lock box they have to be signed at the box by an observer. It really does look like voter fraud..It's amazing. You can show liberals video of Democrats stuffing ballot boxes and they stand there and tell you it didn't happen.
A lot of Republicans complain about voter fraud. Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White actually committed it
So long as you’re a Republican, you won’t spend any time in jail for voter fraud. And, if you’re Charlie White, Indiana’s lucky, now-former Republican secretary of state who received just one year of home detention for all of those crimes, you’ll likely be “elated,” just as White was after his sentencing hearing last week.
Voter fraud retires shameless GOP official - Salon.com
December 07, 2011
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme
Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.
Fortunately, other members of the former Republican governor’s team will also stand trial for their role.
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme Political Animal The Washington Monthly
The irony is, the fraud Republicans are worried about is imaginary, while the real-world fraud is coming from their side of the political divide.
A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.
Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility.
A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud.
"Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.
Dem? Where did it say that? Stuffing? How? You realize EACH ballot will need to be signed right?
MORE of the usual right wing garbage, IMHO, of conservatives/GOP throwing out crap right before an election then having amnesia when nothing comes of it, as usual!!!
You can show where they were not signed?
All states are NOT AT ALL "similar" when it comes to election law.
or guilty of just not sealing the envelope well. that's an issue for the vote counters, not for the man delivering the ballots.
i mean if i were him i wouldn't want to seal the envelope for fear that someone would accuse me of voter fraud.
They have to be signed and sealed if transported... or mailed. If they go into a lock box they have to be signed at the box by an observer. It really does look like voter fraud..It's amazing. You can show liberals video of Democrats stuffing ballot boxes and they stand there and tell you it didn't happen.
A lot of Republicans complain about voter fraud. Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White actually committed it
So long as you’re a Republican, you won’t spend any time in jail for voter fraud. And, if you’re Charlie White, Indiana’s lucky, now-former Republican secretary of state who received just one year of home detention for all of those crimes, you’ll likely be “elated,” just as White was after his sentencing hearing last week.
Voter fraud retires shameless GOP official - Salon.com
December 07, 2011
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme
Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.
Fortunately, other members of the former Republican governor’s team will also stand trial for their role.
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme Political Animal The Washington Monthly
The irony is, the fraud Republicans are worried about is imaginary, while the real-world fraud is coming from their side of the political divide.
A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.
Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility.
A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud.
"Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.
Dem? Where did it say that? Stuffing? How? You realize EACH ballot will need to be signed right?
MORE of the usual right wing garbage, IMHO, of conservatives/GOP throwing out crap right before an election then having amnesia when nothing comes of it, as usual!!!
You can show where they were not signed?
It only "looks" that way to you because that's what you really, really want it to be.
Ok. Can you please tell me which, if any, states do not require early ballots be placed into tamper proof envelopes if mailed or hand carried outside a locked ballot box.
how so?They have to be signed and sealed if transported... or mailed. If they go into a lock box they have to be signed at the box by an observer. It really does look like voter fraud..It's amazing. You can show liberals video of Democrats stuffing ballot boxes and they stand there and tell you it didn't happen.
A lot of Republicans complain about voter fraud. Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White actually committed it
So long as you’re a Republican, you won’t spend any time in jail for voter fraud. And, if you’re Charlie White, Indiana’s lucky, now-former Republican secretary of state who received just one year of home detention for all of those crimes, you’ll likely be “elated,” just as White was after his sentencing hearing last week.
Voter fraud retires shameless GOP official - Salon.com
December 07, 2011
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme
Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.
Fortunately, other members of the former Republican governor’s team will also stand trial for their role.
Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme Political Animal The Washington Monthly
The irony is, the fraud Republicans are worried about is imaginary, while the real-world fraud is coming from their side of the political divide.
A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.
Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility.
A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud.
"Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.
Dem? Where did it say that? Stuffing? How? You realize EACH ballot will need to be signed right?
MORE of the usual right wing garbage, IMHO, of conservatives/GOP throwing out crap right before an election then having amnesia when nothing comes of it, as usual!!!
You can show where they were not signed?
Similar threads
New Topics
-
-
-
Trump says we're the most respected nation in the world, Not!- Started by Astrostar
- Replies: 37
-
-
Remember all those unproven "quid pro quo" allegations against Biden?- Started by berg80
- Replies: 26
