While I obviously have no problem with homosexuality (or any sexuality for that matter) where religion is concerned, if your religion's positions can change or evolve with the times that's like saying it was never from God to begin with, but Man, hence it can change and evolve.
Oh how I love it! How many people can say in their generation they saw a church do a 180 on a topic such as this? This is fantastic both for gays and atheists.
How are the theists responding to it? Your tent just got a little bit bigger. We'll give you the gays in order to have this proof that your church is man made up! Now all you have to do is edit your bibles again anywhere it says anything negative about gays and you'll be fine. Plus you can always say that it may say it in the bible, but Jesus didn't say it. That's another out they all use because honestly this Jesus guy never said anything wrong. Nothing anyone ever quoted him saying. And that's suggesting the writers of the bible met Jesus and we know honestly none of the people who wrote the bible ever met Jesus. People lived to the age of 29 back then, especially poor jews. The bible was written 60 plus years after. That's someone's grand kid writing what his superstitious grandfather tells him as fact and even first hand account.
My one Catholic friend said he'd leave the Catholic Church if this or Women being Priests ever happened. I wonder what he's going to do?
Sure doesn’t take much to fool you. What Church dogma or doctrine have changed over 2000 years? Although I doubt you even know the difference between doctrine and disciplines.
It’s not a 180 degree turn, maybe 20 degrees. And in the more important way of looking at sex outside of marriage, they have not moved one degree. (See my post #8 above for further explanation.) But what’s the point in trying to school you? You have a mission and nothing is going to deter you.
So you are Greek Orthodox, hey? How about that? Yet you don’t have the slightest understanding of what Scripture is about, and surely not what God is about, IMO. You think men made this all up and tailored it to their own needs or to make round pegs fit in square holes. Don’t try to dance around homosexuality by pretending Jesus had nothing to say (he did) or that because it was Paul or others, those words don’t count. You think no man can control his sexuality unless he gives in as often as he must. You think God’s grace does not assist priests in their celibacy because it’s all up to man and God doesn’t really make a difference in our affairs.
The fact is, 90%+ of priestly abuses were towards adolescent boys, not children and not girls. And most of that took place in the 50s – 70-s when seminaries became soft and somewhat corrupt just like the rest of our culture. But to be sure, satan will always put most of his efforts towards taking down the Catholic Church and its clergy because when the shepherd is struck the sheep scatter. He has no need to tell hedonistic, lustful unchurched Americans anything new, they are already doing fine as far as the evil one is concerned. So do not be surprised the sins of the Church will always be the only ones everyone points out and gets a good laugh over. Satan is also referred to in Scripture as “the accuser of the brethren.” Sound familiar?
So our Church is man made up is it? Of course if you ignore all of the saints and the miracles and the revelations through history you might be able to start your little theory. But to me you look like an angry clown who so so wants to take down an institution he is not part of that he will hand select his evidence and pretend all the other evidence which he cannot explain away does not count or exist. What a fool’s game.
