Casino Ejects Woman In Muslim Garb (video)
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AllieBaba
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"Approving the wearing of the burka is a bit like approving masochism - if a woman is found with bruises all over her body but says this is fine because she is a masochist is it then acceptable to ignore another woman who has bruises all over her body because her husband beat her up? The second woman will probably tell you that she "fell downstairs" so should the assumption be that a woman who presents with all the signs of assault and battery should be treated as if she has been battered until it can definitely be shown that she permitted this assault voluntarily? There is another parallel in prostitution, a large minority of prostitutes are sex-slaves but a sizeable number are keen to earn money from prostitution of their own free will. Are we condoning sex slavery if we condone prostitution?
If the burka is an unwelcome imprisonment forced upon 30% of muslim women but welcomed by 30% how do we deal with this?
The willing wearing of the burka is more difficult to separate from the forced wearing of the burka than, say, separating willing prostitution from sex-slavery or masochism from battery. Given this problem the French are probably right to have banned it. The burka is not necessary dress for an Islamic woman and by approving it we are also approving bullying and coercion. If women who wear the burka were not self-righteous they would understand that relinquishing the burka is a small price to pay to save some of their sisters from suffering.
Those who frame the wearing of the burka as a feminist issue of the "right to choose" a mode of dress are in grave danger of colluding in the bullying of those who have no "right to choose" and are compelled to live in stifling darkness. Perhaps the greatest irony in the debate over the burka is that the rise in Islamic fundamentalism is a reaction to the rise of feminism in the West yet it is feminists who are the most vocal non-Islamic supporters of the burka. There was little appetite for Islamic extremism in the 1950s when women in the West were kept to the kitchen and family and forced to wear modest clothing and divorce was relatively rare. It is the reaction to the growth and spread of Western feminist culture over the past 40 years that has changed Islamic countries from places where even head-scarves were becoming rare to places where women are entombed in fabric. Extreme Islam is a reaction to feminism."
Political thoughts: Do Muslim women want to wear the Burka?
If the burka is an unwelcome imprisonment forced upon 30% of muslim women but welcomed by 30% how do we deal with this?
The willing wearing of the burka is more difficult to separate from the forced wearing of the burka than, say, separating willing prostitution from sex-slavery or masochism from battery. Given this problem the French are probably right to have banned it. The burka is not necessary dress for an Islamic woman and by approving it we are also approving bullying and coercion. If women who wear the burka were not self-righteous they would understand that relinquishing the burka is a small price to pay to save some of their sisters from suffering.
Those who frame the wearing of the burka as a feminist issue of the "right to choose" a mode of dress are in grave danger of colluding in the bullying of those who have no "right to choose" and are compelled to live in stifling darkness. Perhaps the greatest irony in the debate over the burka is that the rise in Islamic fundamentalism is a reaction to the rise of feminism in the West yet it is feminists who are the most vocal non-Islamic supporters of the burka. There was little appetite for Islamic extremism in the 1950s when women in the West were kept to the kitchen and family and forced to wear modest clothing and divorce was relatively rare. It is the reaction to the growth and spread of Western feminist culture over the past 40 years that has changed Islamic countries from places where even head-scarves were becoming rare to places where women are entombed in fabric. Extreme Islam is a reaction to feminism."
Political thoughts: Do Muslim women want to wear the Burka?
Againsheila
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If they are wearing a ski mask, I'm gonna call the cops....what would you do?
slukasiewski
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Never fails -
The terrorist loving Muslim lovers come out in these threads.....
The terrorist loving Muslim lovers come out in these threads.....
jillian
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as do rightwingnut neocon hacks.
slukasiewski
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jillian
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well, it's pretty cowardly to beat up women for not "obeying"
on the other hand, some of them aren't cowards. cowards don't die for their cause. the ones who SEND them to die... THEY are cowards.
slukasiewski
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jillian
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typical rightwingnut loser.
gets his butt kicked repeatedly by the "leftie" female so has to immediately go to ready insult... "fat"... or "dyke".... or whatever imbecilic comment makes him feel like he's not the useless piece of trash living in his mommy's basement that he is.
and there are enough people on the board who've seen what i look like. i'm not all that worried about what you think.
you know, given you don't think.
jillian
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you have no argument from me in that regard. what i said wasn't a defense of terrorists. it was just an acknowledgment that people who put their money where their mouth is, even if they're vile, aren't cowards.
jillian
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nope. not fat.
but most definitely a ***** to idiots like him. he's just angry he got his idiot butt negged today. i have no doubt he'll run to staff and blather on until the neg is removed.
cause that's what rightwingnut scum seems to do around here.... troll the board and cry when they get negged.
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ma'am the ones who actually die for their cause or neither cowards nor brave. They are ignorant. You could no more call a child brave for touching an open flame if all he's ever heard in his life is "the flame won't burn you."
I was referencing Muslims who beat their wives when I said they are cowards. In actuality not all Muslim men beat their wives. Those who are just living their lives are no more cowardly or brave than the rest of us.
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