Capitalism is NOT Democratic: Democracy is NOT Capitalist

That is silly because capitalists do traditionally just murder/steal.
Recently that is why we invaded Iraq.
That was the point of the colonialism and imperialism of the US, England, France, Belgium, Holland, etc.
That was the point of the Spanish conquistadors, the Crusades, the Roman legions, Alexander the Great, the Egyptians, etc.

If there is murder and stealing, that is the opposite of communism, which be definition means sharing.
The Soviet Union invaded Eastern Europe and dropped an Iron Curtain. Stalin created a man-made famine in the Ukraine and murdered 30 million people. THAT is murder and stealing.

Mao murdered tens of millions of Chinese people and stole the land. Pol Pot stole all private property in Cambodia, forced the entire population into the countryside, and murdered millions of Cambodians.

You are seriously deluded about what communism reaps.
 
How was Stalin, Genghis Khan, Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, or any dictator anything but capitalist?
My god. Someone claiming Stalin was a capitalist is as batshit crazy as someone claiming Hitler was left wing.
 
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February 09, 1946 Speech Delivered by Stalin at a Meeting of Voters of the Stalin Electoral District, Moscow

It would be wrong to think that the Second World War broke out accidentally, or as a result of blunders committed by certain statesmen, although blunders were certainly committed. As a matter of fact, the war broke out as the inevitable result of the development of world economic and political forces on the basis of present-day monopolistic capitalism. Marxists have more than once stated that the capitalist system of world economy contains the elements of a general crisis and military conflicts, that, in view of that, the development of world capitalism in our times does not proceed smoothly and evenly, but through crises and catastrophic wars. The point is that the uneven development of capitalist countries usually leads, in the course of time, to a sharp disturbance of the equilibrium within the world system of capitalism, and that group of capitalist countries regards itself as being less securely provides with raw materials and markets usually attempts to change the situation and to redistribute "spheres of influence" in its own favour -- by employing armed force. As a result of this, the capitalist world is split into two hostile camps, and war breaks out between them.

Perhaps catastrophic wars could be avoided if it were possible periodically to redistribute raw materials and markets among the respective countries in conformity with their economic weight by means of concerted and peaceful decisions. But this is impossible under the present capitalist conditions of world economic development.


 
Good question, Colin. I’d have to say the USA is a country filled with some pretty shamefully ignorant people! From the ridiculous either/or posing of the OP question, to the demagogic and argumentative comments, there is not much useful being said here.

In the end, it seems to me that the key social and economic reality is that the “U.S.A.” has become a dangerously muscle-bound world financial empire, terrified of losing its position as top dog among nations.

Corporate finance capitalism rules here. It has been developing for a long time. It is our present “American version” of capitalism.

It is not just a matter of economics. Today our democratic traditions and republican institutions are failing us and our people are at each other’s throats, partly but certainly not only due to Trump and his incredible demagoguery.

Sectional and “party-partisan” hysteria grow even as those claiming to be “independents” outnumber ostensible “partisans.” The center does not hold. Those with money and stocks, those with education and good or relatively stable jobs, those without, Americans talk past one another. As do whole nations in the world. So it is with that old “socialism” and “capitalism” debate.

It reminds me of an old Keats poem:

“Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”

The OP is a small part of the problem. Trump divided the country like nothing before. The idiots that were sucked in are now the main problem in nearly everything that is wrong about the place.
They're ignorant, stupid, grossly un informed and yet still persue the return of the bloody idiot as if the return of the him will solve the problems he created.
If anyone should be exterminated for treason its him.
 
it’s the nature of govt. Govt is always spending other people’s money on other people, and therefore isn’t efficient or accountable for their use of resources.

in the private sector folks have to earn the money, so are more accountable how it’s spent, and earned…hence more efficient, accountable, and effective
Excellent point about when people earn their own money they are far more accountable for how it’s spent. Taxpayers see the misuse of their federal money. Policymakers should take heed if they expect to maintain political power or be replaced. Like usual. As an average voter, I’m ready for a better usual.
 
The OP is a small part of the problem. Trump divided the country like nothing before. The idiots that were sucked in are now the main problem in nearly everything that is wrong about the place.
They're ignorant, stupid, grossly un informed and yet still persue the return of the bloody idiot as if the return of the him will solve the problems he created.
If anyone should be exterminated for treason its him.
You have described yourself, asshole. the country was already divided. All Trump did is bring those division out into the daylight. Then all you America hating progs showed your true colors. That's why you hate Trump. He has you pegged.

If anyone should be exterminated for treason, it's prog turds like you.
 
Capitalism is an economic system

Democracy is a form of Govt

Of course they aren’t the same thing
I never said they were.
Is capitalism compatible with democracy?
Democracy is created by the people for the people.
Capitalism divides society into two unequal cohorts, Owners and employees.
Owners decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how revenues are distributed which guarantees owners will use their share to bribe government to privatize profit and socialize cost.
 
I never said they were.
Is capitalism compatible with democracy?
Democracy is created by the people for the people.
Capitalism divides society into two unequal cohorts, Owners and employees.
Owners decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how revenues are distributed which guarantees owners will use their share to bribe government to privatize profit and socialize cost.
yes they are very compatible

Capitalism allows anyone to be an owner and the people decide what they want and how much they want produced in a capitalist society. Producers make what the people demand, the people set the price, etc. Moreover in a capitalist society anyone can become an owner

in leftist society, none of that is possible because the Govt owns it all, sets the price, and produces what they want

it’s leftist ideology that’s not compatible with democracy as its leftist society that takes away the freedom of choice which capitalism encourages
 
I don't know because I haven't seen any from you.
Let me know when you do.
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LMAO..........Apparently nobody works in China right.
It appears (at the moment) fewer entrepreneurs will be allowed to become billionaires in China by privatizing profit and socializing cost:

Chinese communists are souring on capitalism

"HONG KONG, July 26 (Reuters Breakingviews) - The Chinese Communist Party’s affair with capitalism is souring rapidly. Beijing is forcing the country’s $120 billion private tutoring industry to turn non-profit, an unprecedented move that wiped out billions of dollars in value at a swathe of listed Chinese firms."
 
I learned about the benefits of Capitalism when I worked for a small manufacturing company. We made equipment for water and wastewater treatment, mainly in the public sector.
The form of capitalism you extoll is no longer dominant.
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"Free-market capitalism says that the only purpose of business is to create shareholder value and that the unfettered market can regulate itself.

"In the last 30 years, that definition changed to, 'the only purpose of business is to create shareholder value measured by short-term results and with little or no regulation.'"

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Under a socialist regime, where the Sovereign would own the means of production and manage the process, any effort to improve the equipment would be half-hearted and largely unsuccessful. Faux progress would be rewarded and awarded
That "sovereign" could just as easily be the entire workforce as opposed to a relatively handful of owners, managers, and shareholders. Workers would be expected to become more invested in making improvements if they felt they had a stake in owning the fruits of their labor.
 

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