Canada Retaliates

[g5000]

OR they could just agree to be a GOOD NEIGHBOR and Help with drug enforcement coming into America

Police in Mexico, all of Central America, and South America have been dying while fighting drug cartels. I know from first-hand experience.

Guess what they know that you don't.

They know the drug problem is a matter of supply and demand, and Americans DEMAND a fuckton of drugs every goddam day.

And to think you fools think TARIFFS??? are going to stop that is a level of stupidity never before seen on this planet.

"Go ahead, kill some drug dealers. We'll make more."

 

[Stryder50]

Trade and tariffs are a bit more complex than many assume. Also it is select items subject to select range of tariffs.

Here's just one example;
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How China skirts tariffs into the US​

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China’s rising exports to Mexico​

When a U.S. consumer buys something on Amazon from a Chinese storefront, the order sets in motion a fairly sophisticated chain of events. A notification of the order is sent to the seller, who could be operating directly from China or via a warehouse in Mexico.

Upon receiving the order, the seller prepares the item for shipment. If the product is located in China, it might first be sent in bulk to Mexico, leveraging the strategic advantages offered by Mexico’s logistics infrastructure and trade agreements. More likely is that if the Chinese shipper wants to take advantage of Section 321, the shipper has already warehoused the inventory in Mexico.

Each item destined for the U.S. is then individually packaged and valued at less than $800 to ensure it meets the criteria for duty-free entry. This valuation is key, so for more expensive, multipart products, it sometimes makes sense to ship multiple boxes in order to distribute value.

The packaged goods are then transported to the U.S.-Mexico border, either directly from a Mexican warehouse or after arriving in Mexico from China. At the border, the consignments are subject to inspection by CBP. Thanks to the precise labeling and adherence to the Section 321 rule, these packages typically qualify for expedited customs processing.

Once cleared through customs, the shipments enter the U.S. logistics network and are directed next to distribution centers strategically located across the country. Here, the packages are sorted and dispatched for final delivery.
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How China skirts tariffs into the US

Chinese trade flow into Mexico is helping to build up the latter’s manufacturing capabilities, which is a long-term positive for the U.S.

www.freightwaves.com

 

[g5000]

What China does during a trade war with the orange dumbass is move their manufacturing to Vietnam and Thailand or wherever else is convenient.

It's whack-a-mole.

Meanwhile, their retaliatory tariffs suppress our exports to their country.

Voila! Our trade deficit goes UP! See post 52.

 

[g5000]

Trade and tariffs are a bit more complex than many assume. Also it is select items subject to select range of tariffs.

Here's just one example;
...

How China skirts tariffs into the US​

....​

China’s rising exports to Mexico​

When a U.S. consumer buys something on Amazon from a Chinese storefront, the order sets in motion a fairly sophisticated chain of events. A notification of the order is sent to the seller, who could be operating directly from China or via a warehouse in Mexico.

Upon receiving the order, the seller prepares the item for shipment. If the product is located in China, it might first be sent in bulk to Mexico, leveraging the strategic advantages offered by Mexico’s logistics infrastructure and trade agreements. More likely is that if the Chinese shipper wants to take advantage of Section 321, the shipper has already warehoused the inventory in Mexico.

Each item destined for the U.S. is then individually packaged and valued at less than $800 to ensure it meets the criteria for duty-free entry. This valuation is key, so for more expensive, multipart products, it sometimes makes sense to ship multiple boxes in order to distribute value.

The packaged goods are then transported to the U.S.-Mexico border, either directly from a Mexican warehouse or after arriving in Mexico from China. At the border, the consignments are subject to inspection by CBP. Thanks to the precise labeling and adherence to the Section 321 rule, these packages typically qualify for expedited customs processing.

Once cleared through customs, the shipments enter the U.S. logistics network and are directed next to distribution centers strategically located across the country. Here, the packages are sorted and dispatched for final delivery.
...

How China skirts tariffs into the US

Chinese trade flow into Mexico is helping to build up the latter’s manufacturing capabilities, which is a long-term positive for the U.S.

www.freightwaves.com

Yeah, that duty-free thing. I suspect Temu uses that to smuggle fentanyl precursors into the US.

 

[eagle1462010]

Police in Mexico, all of Central America, and South America have been dying while fighting drug cartels. I know from first-hand experience.

Guess what they know that you don't.

They know the drug problem is a matter of supply and demand, and Americans DEMAND a fuckton of drugs every goddam day.

And to think you fools think TARIFFS??? are going to stop that is a level of stupidity never before seen on this planet.

"Go ahead, kill some drug dealers. We'll make more."

The ARE OWNED BY THE CARTELS

 

[g5000]

Drug Trafficking in the United States by Using the Mail​

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Many people – from sophisticated organized crime groups to high school seniors – can be responsible for shipping drugs through the mail. According to the Postal Inspection Service, a year-long investigation resulted in the arrest and 18-year sentencing in federal prison of a mother and son. They sent 8,400 drug parcels by mail, using a dark web vendor called Meds4U.

So while Trump and your propagandists are getting you all worked up about Mexicans, it's good old US citizens who are fueling the opioid crisis.

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

And you thought tariffs would mitigate the problem!

 

[g5000]

The ARE OWNED BY THE CARTELS

You're sitting there bleeving all the cops are owned, aren't you.

Unbelievably disrespectful and bigoted.

 

[g5000]

The ARE OWNED BY THE CARTELS

This is just one year and just Mexico:

Violence against police in Mexico​

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This year, Mexico has seen at least 122 police murders. This violence, however, has not affected all regions of the country equally. According to data from the organisation Causa en Común, which maintains records of police murders, the central state of Guanajuato has been the scene of the greatest violence against police officers in the country, with more than a quarter of all the country’s murders in 2024. Analysts have attributed this type of violence to the ongoing conflict between drug cartels – and against the authorities – for territorial control and impunity to carry out their illicit activities.


Asshole.


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[Stryder50]

So tell me something. How long does it take to travel to our grocery stores from Calgary or Edmonton, and back again?

I don't live near there so don't experience the travel times and border customs waits.
If you are so smart, you could figure it out yourself.

I live in the PNW, and am about 10 miles to the border. If I opt to go I-5 to Vancouver than it's about a half hour on each side of the border plus the time spent in line to go through customs. There's not much up in Canada to entice me there often. I can also grab the road a mile away, shoot straight north, be at the border in about 15 minutes and clear through customs in about 10-15 if not much traffic at the time. Of course that puts me in rural suburbs and might not be much there to interest me.

But I encounter Canadians on the highways here and at the many large box retails. My usual is Kroger, but Costco is just across the street from it.

Often at the gasoline pumps you'll see the Canadians filling 3-4 5 gal. "jerry cans" and their vehicle tank, either before or after loading on groceries in the store. When I've chatted with them they claim it's the larger selection of products down here and the lower prices that bring them down. They usually load up to the max before going back North, and it might be a week or two before they next come down this way. Weekends tend to find the parking lots jammed with the added Canadian traffic.

Sometimes they'll stay over night at a motel or such, make the jaunt down here a holiday of sorts.

I've even worked places where we had Canadians on our staff who made the daily commute down and back. Usually have a Nexus Tag that speeds going thru the border.

 

[OKTexas]

You're kidding, right?

Nope, it's Canadians that will be paying higher prices on those goods, which means they'll likely be buying less. The surplus can be sold domestically, which will increase domestic supplies and cause reduced prices for us.

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[Stryder50]

What China does during a trade war with the orange dumbass is move their manufacturing to Vietnam and Thailand or wherever else is convenient.

It's whack-a-mole.

Meanwhile, their retaliatory tariffs suppress our exports to their country.

Voila! Our trade deficit goes UP! See post 52.

Many of Trump's tariffs would be retaliatory to what we deal with when sending our exports.
They will also help cover our expenses of dealing with the illegals slipping into here from those neighbors.

 

[g5000]

Many of Trump's tariffs would be retaliatory to what we deal with when sending our exports.
They will also help cover our expenses of dealing with the illegals slipping into here from those neighbors.

It is positively breathtaking how easily you people swallow and repeat Trump's lies.


Again, see post 52.

 

[Stryder50]

There's a lot of give and take in the Trade and Tariff "wars";

Canada imposes 100% tariff on imports of Chinese-made electric vehicles​

How Companies Are Dodging Trump Tariffs On Canada, Mexico And China​

What is and isn't on Canada's first round of tariffs targets against the U.S.​

China retaliates against Canadian tariffs with canola import investigation​

 

[Stryder50]

What China does during a trade war with the orange dumbass is move their manufacturing to Vietnam and Thailand or wherever else is convenient.

It's whack-a-mole.

Meanwhile, their retaliatory tariffs suppress our exports to their country.

Voila! Our trade deficit goes UP! See post 52.

We don't need to export to China as much as they need to export to us.
There's more than trade involved here.
It's to knock China's economy further in the rear, it is staggering lately.
It's to try and close channels to some of our technology, make it harder for them to copy and steal.
It's to incentivize and support returning some of that manufacturing back to the USA.
It's to incentivize and support removing some of the critical IT chip making from China and back to the USA (a Defense weak point).

 

[g5000]

I don't live near there so don't experience the travel times and border customs waits.
If you are so smart, you could figure it out yourself.

I live in the PNW, and am about 10 miles to the border. If I opt to go I-5 to Vancouver than it's about a half hour on each side of the border plus the time spent in line to go through customs. There's not much up in Canada to entice me there often. I can also grab the road a mile away, shoot straight north, be at the border in about 15 minutes and clear through customs in about 10-15 if not much traffic at the time. Of course that puts me in rural suburbs and might not be much there to interest me.

But I encounter Canadians on the highways here and at the many large box retails. My usual is Kroger, but Costco is just across the street from it.

Often at the gasoline pumps you'll see the Canadians filling 3-4 5 gal. "jerry cans" and their vehicle tank, either before or after loading on groceries in the store. When I've chatted with them they claim it's the larger selection of products down here and the lower prices that bring them down. They usually load up to the max before going back North, and it might be a week or two before they next come down this way. Weekends tend to find the parking lots jammed with the added Canadian traffic.

Sometimes they'll stay over night at a motel or such, make the jaunt down here a holiday of sorts.

I've even worked places where we had Canadians on our staff who made the daily commute down and back. Usually have a Nexus Tag that speeds going thru the border.

Sooooo...you've seen one ten-thousandth of Canada's population getting gas, and you think this will defeat Canadian tariffs on everything from America.

Mmmmmm-kay.

 

[Stryder50]

It is positively breathtaking how easily you people swallow and repeat Trump's lies.


Again, see post 52.

History often doesn't repeat itself.
Different circumstances, different nuances, different methods, etc. can make it different results.

 

[Stryder50]

Sooooo...you've seen one ten-thousandth of Canada's population getting gas, and you think this will defeat Canadian tariffs on everything from America.

Mmmmmm-kay.

You asked.
I gave you an answer.
You failed to understand it, instead misread and couldn't grasp.
I didn't say it would "defeat Canadian tariffs", but it likely will bring them to barginning table with realistic intentions.

You've proven yourself a dummy and likely a partisan Marxist, not worth responding to.
Later Komrade charlie.

 

[g5000]

We don't need to export to China as much as they need to export to us.

Thus our trade balance with them which Trump increased to a record level with his last tariffs.

I keep telling people to see post 52!

There's more than trade involved here.
It's to knock China's economy further in the rear, it is staggering lately.

China's economy is "staggering" because they had a real estate bubble like we did.

It's to try and close channels to some of our technology, make it harder for them to copy and steal.
It's to incentivize and support returning some of that manufacturing back to the USA.
It's to incentivize and support removing some of the critical IT chip making from China and back to the USA (a Defense weak point).

Most of our chips come from Taiwan. They invented the mass production of chips.

We also get chips from other Asian nations like Vietnam. I mentioned above that is how China gets around our tariffs. They move their manufacturing to other countries which aren't affected by our import tariffs.

Whack-a-mole.

As for incentivizing manufacturing, that is exactly why Biden enacted the CHIPS act, which has resulted in a boom in the construction of manufacturing facilities which will begin to pay off soon.

Of course, Trump will take credit when that manufacturing boom occurs, and his cult will bleev him.

 

[g5000]

History often doesn't repeat itself.

It does rhyme, though.

Different circumstances, different nuances, different methods, etc. can make it different results.

Nope. There is not a single different thing. Same bullshit, different year.

You'll see.

 

[Stryder50]

China’s exports to Mexico are getting heavier tariffs – is it a sign of more to come?​

• Mexico has established new or higher tariffs on a long list of imports, directly affecting China and raising questions over what else could be in store
• Pressures mounting on Latin American country to limit its trade relationship with China, especially in role as ‘springboard’ to US market

New tariffs from Mexico could be an ill omen for Chinese exporters as global supply chains shift, with the Latin American country looking to balance its economic interests against pressures from the US over its relationship with the Asian manufacturing powerhouse, analysts said.

Tariff hikes, levying 5 to 50 per cent in additional import costs, have kicked in for 544 products entering Mexico. The higher rates only apply to countries without free trade pacts with the Latin American country, which includes China – its second-largest trading partner and a growing source of shipments over the last two years.
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Should Mexico’s new tariffs sound early warning alarms for China’s exports?

With new tariffs being imposed by Mexico on most Chinese imports, observers and analysts disagree on whether stricter measures are being considered – but most say pressure from the US is at play.

www.scmp.com

This one has a few 'chapters' about China's economic issues;

China uses Mexico to avoid US tariffs​

Maybe not so "secret", but another variation;

China's SECRET Plan to Avoid US Tariffs Through Mexico​