Can you Name Three Actual Facts about Darwinism

Oh look, dodged the question again.

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Which of your hallucinagenic questions would you like answered?

While you're at it you could start answering some of the questions I've asked if your brain can concentrate long enough on this reality to respond to them.

*****CHUCKLE*****



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Which of your hallucinagenic questions would you like answered?
Just the one I have repeated a few timea. Sorry, I didn't realize your traumatic head injury had such a drastic effect on your short term memory.

Here it is again:

What would, for example, the evidence that humans evolved from an earlier ape species look like, in your estimation?

Be as specific as you can. Normal, intelligent adults have no problem with this question.

(But you sure seem to be having a hard time with it.)

Now, ....the answer?
 
I don't. The problem I have is meeting your apparently very secret and exacting standards for this evidence. Obviously, I could produce some of the evidence that has convinced the global scientific community and nearly every educated adult on the planet. Any child wth Google could do that.

There is a thread right now on this very topic that has plenty of evidence posted in it. But it has not convinced you.

And any intelligent adult who is not a fraud could and would answer my question.

So, let's try this again:

What are some examples of what this evidence would look like?

Be as specific as you can.
Prove a fish has changed into a ferret...Prove any animal has changed into a new animal...There are no missing links.
 
Prove a fish has changed into a ferret..
Oops, there is your science illiteracy again.

All I can do is provide evidence that ferrets have fish as ancestors. But first:

What do you think some of that evidence might look like?

You must answer. If you can't answer, how will you even know if you are looking at evidence or not? You would just be wasting my time.

Man, you guys SURE are having a hard time with this simple question.
 
Just the one I have repeated a few timea. Sorry, I didn't realize your traumatic head injury had such a drastic effect on your short term memory.

Here it is again:

What would, for example, the evidence that humans evolved from an earlier ape species look like, in your estimation?

Be as specific as you can. Normal, intelligent adults have no problem with this question.

(But you sure seem to be having a hard time with it.)

Now, ....the answer?

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I've already answered that question oh brain damaged one (Was it all that acid you took in college?) but since you insist my repeating it...

Once you admit your faith in God all things are possible and since you're insistent that time exists then you're admitting that God exists.

*****CHUCKLE*****



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Once you admit your faith in God all things are possible and since you're insistent that time exists then you're admitting that God exists.
That is not an answer to the question I asked.

Let's try this again.

What would some of the evidence that humans evolved from earlier apes look like, in your estimation?

Goddamn you're having a hard time with this.
 
You cannot possibly compare our doctrine to other religions, especially mainstream Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism... As I mentioned, our intelligence is pure energy which goes right along with energy (mass) cannot be made nor destroyed. Therefore, this is all supported from the very foundation of life.
I can clearly compare your religion to any religion past or present, especially Judaism. Did you not know that Christianity stole its theology from Judaism? What is the OT?

There are many valid reasons for choosing not accepting the coercive heaven and hell doctrines of Christianity. Learning, knowledge, maturity, among them. I have to note that overwhelmingly, believers don’t make considered choices about their religious belief. Their belief is merely an acceptance of the cultural, societal and familial gods of convenience. Let's be honest, Most religions, Christianity at the top of the list, don’t coerce their adherents via promises of free thinking and individualistic expression, they use fear. I have no reason to believe I’m going to hell for not obeying a religious doctrine. The concept only derives from various religious texts and tales and fables. These tales are derived to invoke fear. Fear is a powerful motivational tool. What better way for an elite ruling class to coerce conformance from the toiling masses than to threaten them with such things as burning flesh, eternal damnation and eternal pain.
 
Prove a fish has changed into a ferret...Prove any animal has changed into a new animal...There are no missing links.
Prove Arks, a 6,000 years old flat earth.

Identify for us how the fossil evidence is consistent with a young earth. Other than claiming the fossil evidence doesn't exist or is one, grand, global conspiracy, account for a a planet that was teeming with life millions of years ago.

I should note that ''missing links'' is a nonsense slogan used by the extremist ID'iot creationer ministries.

You were given many examples of speciation but rejected it all with nothing but hurt feelings. Creationers admit that a "kind" (an ambiguous, non-scientific term) can change into different species (i.e. a dog "kind" can evolve into wolves, coyotes, foxes, and all types of domestic dogs) but they insist that it must stop there. They give no reason for this fabricated limitation. They just can't accept "macroevolution", because it contradicts a literal interpretation of the bible. There is no limit to the degree that a species can change. Given enough time, a fish-like species can evolve into a amphibian-like species, an amphibian-like species can evolve into a reptilian-like species, a reptilian-like species can evolve into a mammalian-like species, and an ape-like species can evolve into the modern human species.




My expectation is that you dismiss it all but I could go on for pages and pages. What are your countering arguments? Can you show me an example of the gods magical powers? What diseases have the gods cured?

What populations have the gods made taller using supernaturalism?
 
Prove Arks, a 6,000 years old flat earth.

Identify for us how the fossil evidence is consistent with a young earth. Other than claiming the fossil evidence doesn't exist or is one, grand, global conspiracy, account for a a planet that was teeming with life millions of years ago.

I should note that ''missing links'' is a nonsense slogan used by the extremist ID'iot creationer ministries.

You were given many examples of speciation but rejected it all with nothing but hurt feelings. Creationers admit that a "kind" (an ambiguous, non-scientific term) can change into different species (i.e. a dog "kind" can evolve into wolves, coyotes, foxes, and all types of domestic dogs) but they insist that it must stop there. They give no reason for this fabricated limitation. They just can't accept "macroevolution", because it contradicts a literal interpretation of the bible. There is no limit to the degree that a species can change. Given enough time, a fish-like species can evolve into a amphibian-like species, an amphibian-like species can evolve into a reptilian-like species, a reptilian-like species can evolve into a mammalian-like species, and an ape-like species can evolve into the modern human species.




My expectation is that you dismiss it all but I could go on for pages and pages. What are your countering arguments? Can you show me an example of the gods magical powers? What diseases have the gods cured?

What populations have the gods made taller using supernaturalism?

You haven't produced one provable FACT in support of the THEORY of evolution. No scientist on earth has ever accepted Darwin's as anything more than one THEORY.
 
You haven't produced one provable FACT in support of the THEORY of evolution. No scientist on earth has ever accepted Darwin's as anything more than one THEORY.
You might want to read up on the subject.

Of course evolution has been observed. Shocker! A great deal of medical science uses germ theory to understand mutations in genes as a way to produce drugs ( antibiotics for one example), or seasonal flu shots for another example. And no, evolutionary theory is not built on any series of unimaginably huge quantum leaps. I believe I know where you got that notion from but that’s why science cures disease while so-called “creation science” cures, well… nothing at all.

Here’s an example: https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-taller/94ba4f2d-68f9-49ed-9617-0d3287f41a1f/


Why is it I have this sense that you are not the spokesperson for all scientists?
 
Why is it I have this sense that you are not the spokesperson for all scientists?
You have every opportunity to link a site that says Darwin's THEORY is fact. In the more than 60 years that I have been aware of Darwin, I have never heard one scientist call evolution a fact. It is a theory, nothing more, nothing less. BTW I didn't say one word about quantum leaps--you are getting your arguments crossed. Please keep up.
 
More factual than Darwin's THEORY
As factual as factual gets when charlatans are involved.


Did you miss Don Patton being involved with another fraud?


#2093: Don Patton​

Don Patton is a young-earth creationist, close associate of Carl Baugh of Paluxy River footprints-fame, and leader of Metroplex Institute of Origins Science (MIOS) near Dallas. Patton is often referred to as “Dr. Patton”, and he has claimed to have a Ph.D. (or a “Ph.D. candidacy”) in geology from Queensland Christian University in Australia, an unaccredited diploma mill. The WND calls him a “geologist,” which really should on its own be pretty good evidence that he isn’t.

A reasonably central figure in the creationist movement, Patton was for instance, because of his anti-science credentials, invited to testify before the Texas Board of Education during the 2009 evolution hearings, where his testimony was sufficiently insane – at the “no, The Flintstones is really a documentary”-level – to win the sympathy of board member Barbara Cargill and subsequently earn him the 2009 Crocoduck Award.

Patton is particularly famous for his quote-mining abilities and practices (a good collection here; another example is here), which often reach staggering levels of dishonesty, including quotes from The Origin of Species(like most creationists, Patton predictably thinks of Originas some sort of Bible for Biologists, being fully unable to comprehend that, as opposed to his own views, science, well, evolves) of questions Darwin raises without quoting his answers (thus suggesting to his readers that Darwin had none and throws his hands up), as well as a quotation with an ellipsis that spans four whole chaptersof the book. Otherwise, his claims are characterized by claiming that gaps in the fossil record is evidence against evolution (no, he really doesn’t get it), complaints about radiometric dating, as well as the “were you there” gambit that so nicely demonstrates the complete lack of grasp of the basic idea of science (i.e. testing hypotheses about the not-directly-observed by their observable predictions) so characteristic of young-earth creationists. Another illustration of his inability to distinguish scientific inquiry from religious dogma is his tendency to refer to biologists as “people with great faith in evolution” or “devout evolutionists.”

Diagnosis: As delusional as they come, and as so many of them Patton compensates for lack of reason with fundamentalist zeal. It would be fair to call him “dishonest”, but we suspect he is delusional enough not to notice himself. Tireless, though – we’ll give him that.
 
In the more than 60 years that I have been aware of Darwin, I have never heard one scientist call evolution a fact.
So what? You are an ignorant fool who knows nothing about this topic. Are we to believe you managed to get no education on this topic, but have also surveyed the world's scientists on it?

Hey professor:

Some theories are TRUE.

What do we call things that are true?

Let's ask the celebrated evolutionary biologist, Steven Gould:

Evolution as Fact and Theory

by Stephen Jay Gould

 
You have every opportunity to link a site that says Darwin's THEORY is fact. In the more than 60 years that I have been aware of Darwin, I have never heard one scientist call evolution a fact. It is a theory, nothing more, nothing less. BTW I didn't say one word about quantum leaps--you are getting your arguments crossed. Please keep up.
Biological evolution is a fact. You have every opportunity to discuss that with Don Patton.

Tell us more ''facts'' about the Ark'ists. Odd that they claim to have found the Ark but like other charlatans, never quite seem to offer more than ''we're sure... just nothing to offer other than we're sure.
 
Biological evolution is a fact. You have every opportunity to discuss that with Don Patton.

Tell us more ''facts'' about the Ark'ists. Odd that they claim to have found the Ark but like other charlatans, never quite seem to offer more than ''we're sure... just nothing to offer other than we're sure.
There is more concrete evidence to support the ark than there is to support evolutionary theory.
 
There is more concrete evidence to support the ark than there is to support evolutionary theory.
That's odd. As there is no evidence for an ark, I prefer to side with science fact.

Here's your ark, cabal. You didn't know they made a fool of you?

A very convincing photo but... the wood in the photo below was planted by Parasut after he "discovered" Noahs' Ark. Like an "Easter egg hunt" NAMI was taken to the Ark "movie set" and found the wood they brought back. No one from NAMI has any direct knowledge where the really wood came from. According to one source some of the wood came from an old barn, however, other sources said the large wood came from an old ferryboat from the city of Trabzon near the Black Sea that Paraşüt bought with the Chinese. The workers also brought some things from the Hot Springs at Kaplica (at Diydan). Nothing has been published about the wood and it is likely from the old wooden ship that Parasut purchased to help build the ark movie site. The white (plastic?) beads were removed from the "Ark site", but NAMI refuses to identify what they are.



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That's odd. As there is no evidence for an ark, I prefer to side with science fact.

Here's your ark, cabal. You didn't know they made a fool of you?

A very convincing photo but... the wood in the photo below was planted by Parasut after he "discovered" Noahs' Ark. Like an "Easter egg hunt" NAMI was taken to the Ark "movie set" and found the wood they brought back. No one from NAMI has any direct knowledge where the really wood came from. According to one source some of the wood came from an old barn, however, other sources said the large wood came from an old ferryboat from the city of Trabzon near the Black Sea that Paraşüt bought with the Chinese. The workers also brought some things from the Hot Springs at Kaplica (at Diydan). Nothing has been published about the wood and it is likely from the old wooden ship that Parasut purchased to help build the ark movie site. The white (plastic?) beads were removed from the "Ark site", but NAMI refuses to identify what they are.



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Did, Did Not, Did, Did Not. Run along. You have proven nothing, nor have I which leads to the inevitable reason that both are "theories" that cannot and to this point have not been proven to anyone's satisfaction. Come back when you have that PROOF.
 

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