zaangalewa
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From the link posted above:
When understood as a reference to miscarriage, Exodus 21:22-25 is sometimes used as evidence that the unborn is subhuman. But a proper understanding of the passage shows reference is not to a miscarriage, but to a premature birth, and that the “injury” referred to, which is to be compensated for like all other injuries, applies to the child as well as to his mother. This means that, “far from justifying permissive abortion, in fact grants the unborn child a status in the eyes of the law equal to the mother's.” [5]
What rights are granted to the fetus in Numbers where instructions are given for that priest administered abortion for a wife who is accused of fooling around. Better yet, where was abortion specifically denied in the bible? Plenty of denial of sea food, and cotton polyester blend clothing, but nothing about abortion. Why?
I don't know why abortion is not specifically mentioned. I think one can surmise that abortion is immoral based on the commandments of thou shall not kill and be fruitful and multiply.
So what do you say about prisoner executions? Wouldn't that throw Thou Shall Not Kill out the window? Selectively following of the rules?
Let me first say executions are always wrong. Nevertheless this is another problem. In former times it was in many places of the world not possible to imprison someone, who was a very dangerous criminal. That's why to execute such a person was often seen as a kind of extended selfdefence. And seldefence is sometimes able to justify the death of an aggressor by killing him.
But one problem of such forms of "preemptive selfdefence" was it always that someone had to become an executioner. And an exectution is somehow only a kind of legalized murder too. And today the risk a very dangerous criminal is able to escape is not very high any longer.
Background information:
(Source: Pope Francis Declares Death Penalty Unacceptable in All Cases )ROME — Pope Francis has declared the death penalty wrong in all cases, a definitive change in church teaching that is likely to challenge Catholic politicians, judges and officials who have argued that their church was not entirely opposed to capital punishment.
Before, church doctrine accepted the death penalty if it was “the only practicable way” to defend lives, an opening that some Catholics took as license to support capital punishment in many cases.
But Francis said executions were unacceptable in all cases because they are “an attack” on human dignity, the Vatican announced on Thursday, adding that the church would work “with determination” to abolish capital punishment worldwide.
Francis made the change to the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, the book of doctrine that is taught to Catholic children worldwide and studied by adults in a church with 1.2 billion members. Abolishing the death penalty has long been one of his top priorities, along with saving the environment and caring for immigrants and refugees.
My arguments here have only been based upon what I see in the bible as per the thread title.I believe some crimes are worthy of execution.
I do not have any idea why you think god gave you the right to kill someone because you think he's worth to be executed.
My personal opposition to execution is that we often kill someone and later find they were innocent. That possibility is abhorrent and it's better to let the guilty live, confined to prison, than it is to execute an innocent person.
Aha. But ... To be killed on the wrong reason - to be in prison on the wrong reason. Not a big difference in my eyes. And I would not know who would leave the prison in the end dead or alive. I? Someone else, whom I do not like to know?