Zone1 Can you be left liberal and support the heteronormative patriachat

[Mortimer]

I support the heteronormative patriachat 'in moderation and common sense though' but im left

 

[Samofvt]

I grew up in a patriarchal society. We put our women on such a high pedestal...the men take the abuse, but expect some respect for bearing it while the women bear the family and internal matters. I do not understand why women want to lower themselves to men's status. Just to be "equal"? Or are they wanting to be "more than equal"?

I am a very far left conservative. I don't understand this aspect of the new liberalism, which is post-women's-lib (they already got the vote and more than half of the jobs). I also am not sure it is really liberalism or if it is something else.

So I guess my answer is "Yes"?

 

[Votto]

I grew up in a patriarchal society. We put our women on such a high pedestal...the men take the abuse, but expect some respect for bearing it while the women bear the family and internal matters. I do not understand why women want to lower themselves to men's status. Just to be "equal"? Or are they wanting to be "more than equal"?

I am a very far left conservative. I don't understand this aspect of the new liberalism, which is post-women's-lib (they already got the vote and more than half of the jobs). I also am not sure it is really liberalism or if it is something else.

So I guess my answer is "Yes"?

Marxism can be confusing, but it's a communist thingy.

Just know that they must oppose the family, which is a communist ideal, just like they must oppose God.

The state must always come first, which both the family and God may prevent you from doing.

 

[Samofvt]

Marxism can be confusing, but it's a communist thingy.

Just know that they must oppose the family, which is a communist ideal, just like they must oppose God.

The state must always come first, which both the family and God may prevent you from doing.

Yupper...that's exactly the "something else" I had in the back of my mind. It's not liberal, that's for sure, even though the new ideology seems to have made a home in the formerly liberal camp. It's almost the opposite of liberalism.

 

[BreezeWood]

I support the heteronormative patriachat 'in moderation and common sense though' but im left

really, who's determination ...

what desert dwellers fear the most.

 

[luiza]

I support the heteronormative patriachat 'in moderation and common sense though' but im left

Why tell us that you support the obvious ?
All you are saying is that Men have penises and Others do not .


Are you worried that we think that a transitioning person like yourself with apparent homosexual predisposition might be ridiculed and pilloried for trying to be different?

Unlike you we are not irrationally judgmental ---- just preferring that the less talented acknowledge their actual worth --- or lack of it .