Can we all admit the Tea Party was a massive failure?

[gwennie]

I voted Republican most of my adult life, this is the first year I voted for a Democrat.

And Maps are deceiving, because painting a big area red where few people live doesn't mean that much. People vote, not square milage.

Uh huh, you and Bucs90.

I was perfectly willing to give the GOP one last shot...

Until you nominated the Mormon.

How'd that work out for you guys?

You didn't vote republican because "a Mormon" was nominated???? That is just plain idiotic.....much like the Paulies refused to vote for Romney because he wasn't Paul. Acting like pechulant children, not to mention discriminatory. I'm not saying that Romney was the best the conservatives could do.....he was NOT my first choice at all....but the establishment repubs stuck us with him, and it was either a repub or a destructive dem back in office. A lesser of two evils for me for sure. I will never understand people like you.....and I don't really care to.

 

[JoeB131]

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Yea, sure you have. All of a sudden you thought it was in your best interest to vote democrat after "years" of voting republican.....sounds odd, to say the least.

Well, no, not "all of a sudden". It's when my Romney loving boss screwed me over on my last job I realized - The Republicans were on his side and Democrats were on mine. I'm just not sure why it took me 30 years to figure that out.

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I'm Independent, neither dem nor repub.....but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that the dems have been and are currently doing a lot of things to ruin this country, so voting dem this past election certainly doesn't make a lot of sense unless you're all for defiling the Constitution.

I'm not a constitutional fetishist. It's written on PAPER, not a stone tablet inscribed by God. We could have a debate about who did more damage to this country in the last 30 years, but frankly, I'd rather have the Clinton years back.

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As far as square mileage is concerned..........in those areas, there wasn't voter fraud taking place. By comparison, in the big cities there was a lot of voter fraud......so which number is accurate? The place where voter fraud wasn't an issue or a place where massive voter fraud did take place? Seems to me the Red wins that one.

Not really. No one has proven ANY voter fraud. Just because you have some rural county where only a few inbreds live and listen to LImbaugh, doesn't mean that's not where the vast majority of the country was at on this.

[ Not that it matters now, but if the conservatives don't do something to fight back next election, this country will be in the early stages of where Greece is today......seemingly "prosperous, generous" nanny state until the country can't sustain that kind of cradle-to-grave care anymore and then there will be anarchy in the streets (where Greece is now).

Greece's problem is NOT that they have a "nanny state". Greece's problem is that they signed onto a currency they couldn't control the value of. They essentially ceded their economic policy to the Germans, and the Germans screwed them.

European socialist cultures do not fix anything, nor do they sustain any kind of long-lasting progress. If people really wanted this country to be run competently, none of us would ever vote for another republican or democrat again......both parties are so corrupt that it's not possible to fix it anymore. We need to start over...a clean slate, and take money out of elections entirely. Otherwise good candidates stand no chance because they lack the ability to raise enough capital to run an effective campaign.

Again, I like drinking clean water, breathing clean air, and knowing that when I go to work tomorrow, I'm not going to be mangled in a horrible industrial accident. And the reason why these things are so is because a government made sure that was the case.

I have no problem having an adult discussion about what the limits of government should be, and what we can and can't afford and what services we should have and how to best provide them.

But "Gummit Bad, the Founding Slave-owners never would have had an OSHA" is not an adult conversation.

 

[tinydancer]

Obama got re-elected, the country has largely tuned out the fanatical elements of the right wing and this astroturf fake political arm of the Republican party has been useless and is now a punchline. I think it's safe to say the Tea Party was a massive failure and alienated the majority of Americans from the Right Wing.

Did we win the Peoples house?

I think we did.

 

[tinydancer]

The peoples house isn't a game.

 

[JoeB131]

Obama got re-elected, the country has largely tuned out the fanatical elements of the right wing and this astroturf fake political arm of the Republican party has been useless and is now a punchline. I think it's safe to say the Tea Party was a massive failure and alienated the majority of Americans from the Right Wing.

Did we win the Peoples house?

I think we did.

1) I thought you lived in Canada?

2) Democratic House candidates got more votes in 2008. The GOP only retained control by virtue of gerrymandering.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Yes, the Tea Party is toast.

 

[tinydancer]

Sorries just listening to him. I'm down for the count.

 

[gwennie]

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Yea, sure you have. All of a sudden you thought it was in your best interest to vote democrat after "years" of voting republican.....sounds odd, to say the least.

Well, no, not "all of a sudden". It's when my Romney loving boss screwed me over on my last job I realized - The Republicans were on his side and Democrats were on mine. I'm just not sure why it took me 30 years to figure that out.

[
I'm Independent, neither dem nor repub.....but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that the dems have been and are currently doing a lot of things to ruin this country, so voting dem this past election certainly doesn't make a lot of sense unless you're all for defiling the Constitution.

I'm not a constitutional fetishist. It's written on PAPER, not a stone tablet inscribed by God. We could have a debate about who did more damage to this country in the last 30 years, but frankly, I'd rather have the Clinton years back.




Not really. No one has proven ANY voter fraud. Just because you have some rural county where only a few inbreds live and listen to LImbaugh, doesn't mean that's not where the vast majority of the country was at on this.

[ Not that it matters now, but if the conservatives don't do something to fight back next election, this country will be in the early stages of where Greece is today......seemingly "prosperous, generous" nanny state until the country can't sustain that kind of cradle-to-grave care anymore and then there will be anarchy in the streets (where Greece is now).

Greece's problem is NOT that they have a "nanny state". Greece's problem is that they signed onto a currency they couldn't control the value of. They essentially ceded their economic policy to the Germans, and the Germans screwed them.

European socialist cultures do not fix anything, nor do they sustain any kind of long-lasting progress. If people really wanted this country to be run competently, none of us would ever vote for another republican or democrat again......both parties are so corrupt that it's not possible to fix it anymore. We need to start over...a clean slate, and take money out of elections entirely. Otherwise good candidates stand no chance because they lack the ability to raise enough capital to run an effective campaign.

Again, I like drinking clean water, breathing clean air, and knowing that when I go to work tomorrow, I'm not going to be mangled in a horrible industrial accident. And the reason why these things are so is because a government made sure that was the case.

I have no problem having an adult discussion about what the limits of government should be, and what we can and can't afford and what services we should have and how to best provide them.

But "Gummit Bad, the Founding Slave-owners never would have had an OSHA" is not an adult conversation.

In other words...............you are liberal, you have always been liberal, and your bullshit line of "i voted republican almost all my life" was a total lie. Thanks for the review....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I voted Republican most of my adult life, this is the first year I voted for a Democrat.

And Maps are deceiving, because painting a big area red where few people live doesn't mean that much. People vote, not square milage.

Uh huh, you and Bucs90.

I was perfectly willing to give the GOP one last shot...

Until you nominated the Mormon.

How'd that work out for you guys?

We're heartbroken you and Bucs90 left us for 8% unemployment, no budget, no plans except blame the rich

Tells us you have no skin in the game

 

[tinydancer]

Yes, the Tea Party is toast.

Oh too funny.

Now I need a break, but I'm rocking out to Benny and the Jets. I just want to have some fun.

But I have not forgotten not in a minute's heart beat any of my guys from Benghazi nor my guy called Terry.

I will rock again. And I want liberal blood on the wall. I shall take my vengeance.

 

[WillowTree]

All Tea Party members should move to Costa Rica and live this shit hole to the liberals.



http://www.dreamthefuture.org/crecovillage/comparison.pdf

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Yes, the Tea Party is toast.

Oh too funny.

Now I need a break, but I'm rocking out to Benny and the Jets. I just want to have some fun.

But I have not forgotten not in a minute's heart beat any of my guys from Benghazi nor my guy called Terry.

I will rock again. And I want liberal blood on the wall. I shall take my vengeance.

Right on. Let's party like it's 1861. Maybe our civil war will rack up more than just a paltry 600,000 dead.

 

[Mac1958]

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I thought the Tea Party had potential the first couple of weeks there, before the crazies took over.

It may still have some viability going forward, in more localized elections, where small groups of energized activists can have influence.

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But.....you can somehow justify the crazies on the left??? Because I can assure you that most people do not approve of the "progressive" policies that the liberals hold near and dear.

Right now, the crazies on the Left do crazy much better than the crazies on the Right.

The conservative have made several errors that play right into the caricatures the Left paints of them (not to mention the media), from "legitimate rape" to an anti-abortion Amendment to those ridiculous freaking pledges to refusing one freakin' dollar of tax increases for ten freakin' dollars of tax cuts, to running absolutist crazy candidates.

Holy crap, never would I have thought that Pelosi and Reid would seem like the reasonable adults in the room, but when you have a party that's controlled by people who perpetrate the madness in the above paragraph, that's how it's going to look.

And remember, politics is (sadly) all about perception, about image. And the crazies in the GOP are so full of themselves that they're completely missing that key point. Absolutism makes crazies seem even crazier.

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[AmyNation]

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I thought the Tea Party had potential the first couple of weeks there, before the crazies took over.

It may still have some viability going forward, in more localized elections, where small groups of energized activists can have influence.

.

But.....you can somehow justify the crazies on the left??? Because I can assure you that most people do not approve of the "progressive" policies that the liberals hold near and dear.

Right now, the crazies on the Left do crazy much better than the crazies on the Right.

The conservative have made several errors that play right into the caricatures the Left paints of them (not to mention the media), from "legitimate rape" to an anti-abortion Amendment to those ridiculous freaking pledges to refusing one freakin' dollar of tax increases for ten freakin' dollars of tax cuts, to running absolutist crazy candidates.

Holy crap, never would I have thought that Pelosi and Reid would seem like the reasonable adults in the room, but when you have a party that's controlled by people who perpetrate the madness in the above paragraph, that's how it's going to look.

And remember, politics is (sadly) all about perception, about image. And the crazies in the GOP are so full of themselves that they're completely missing that key point. Absolutism makes crazies seem even crazier.

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^^ this.

Seriously.

 

[tinydancer]

Obama got re-elected, the country has largely tuned out the fanatical elements of the right wing and this astroturf fake political arm of the Republican party has been useless and is now a punchline. I think it's safe to say the Tea Party was a massive failure and alienated the majority of Americans from the Right Wing.

Did we win the Peoples house?

I think we did.

1) I thought you lived in Canada?

2) Democratic House candidates got more votes in 2008. The GOP only retained control by virtue of gerrymandering.

Oh I am up here.

But I am your worst nightmare.

I am a legal dual citizen.

and I'm conservative.

 

[WillowTree]

Did we win the Peoples house?

I think we did.

1) I thought you lived in Canada?

2) Democratic House candidates got more votes in 2008. The GOP only retained control by virtue of gerrymandering.

Oh I am up here.

But I am your worst nightmare.

I am a legal dual citizen.

Do you vote absentee then?

 

[tinydancer]

Any one want to play. It takes a bit, but you can do it.

 

[tinydancer]

1) I thought you lived in Canada?

2) Democratic House candidates got more votes in 2008. The GOP only retained control by virtue of gerrymandering.

Oh I am up here.

But I am your worst nightmare.

I am a legal dual citizen.

Do you vote absentee then?

I wish I could but I cant. There are these crazy rules Willow. I posted them a bit back. BUT I am allowed to participate and rock on.

 

[longknife]

IN YOUR DREAMS, LEFTIES!!!!!

Resurgent Tea Party Will 'Dwarf' First Wave

Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, predicted on Friday that an upcoming "Tea Party second wave" will "dwarf" the first wave that propelled Republicans into the majority in the House during the historic 2010 midterm elections.

Read more from the man the Left truly hates @ Norquist: Resurgent Tea Party Will 'Dwarf' First Wave

And some GOP Congressmen are already trying to weasel out of the pledge GOP Rep: I Can Break Anti-Tax Pledge Since My District Number Changed

 

[JoeB131]

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In other words...............you are liberal, you have always been liberal, and your bullshit line of "i voted republican almost all my life" was a total lie. Thanks for the review....

In other words, you are a retard, you have always been a retard, and you can't comprehend a line of reasoning because "Doooy, Corky not understand"

Thanks for the review...

On a serious not, Republicans USED to get it. They used to be on the side of working people. They used to understand we need government to look out for them.

EPA and OSHA- started by that raging liberal, Richard Nixon.