rightwinger
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Can republicans at least admit Obama was a man of class and dignity regardless of his policies?
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rightwinger
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The Great Obama is one of our finest modern Presidents
Soggy in NOLA
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Based upon what?
Toddsterpatriot
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Skin color.......?
Doc1
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Of course he is, just ask you.
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The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.
I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.
Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.
He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.
I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.
I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.
There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.
Like that.
And these.
Then there's these instances.
Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about."the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?
- Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
- Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
- Citation needed.
- Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
- Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
- He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
- Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
- He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
- LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
- You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
- He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
- He's dead, I doubt he would care.
- He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.
tl;dr
Your limited attention span explains your political views. If you were informed, you wouldn't be as you are now.
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Ray From Cleveland
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Give them some credit. At least they didn't Bleach Bit their server.
57, and he's absolutely correct. Counting Israel there are 57 Arab States. Proof he's a Muslim.
Flopper
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It is an open investigation of Russian interference in the election and it's more than just investigating Trump. Robert Mueller was appointed “to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. This appointment came after the Office of the Director of National Intelligence reported that the U.S. intelligence agencies consisting of military and civilian intelligence agencies had concluded "with high confidence" that the Russian government interfered in the election by:
- Hacking into the Democratic National Committee’s and Hillary Clinton campaign’s emails and leaking them to WikiLeaks;
- Disseminating fake news about Ms. Clinton on social media;
- And trying to hack into election systems and databases of multiple U.S. states.
As was made clear by Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the investigation would follow the evidence of Russian interference in the election and would pursue any criminal activity discovered in the course of the investigation. If the evidence points toward the Trumps or the Clintons, it will certainly, be investigated.
I think it's natural to assume that the Russians favored the election of Trump because it is well know that Hillary and Putin hated each other and were at odds on almost ever issues. Trump, however was rather neutral toward Russia and even spoke well of Putin in his campaign. There is no way that the Russians would help Hillary win the presidency. Whether they helped Trump or there was conclusion during the campaign should come out in the investigation. The fact that Trump has fought against the investigation from the beginning certainly cast suspicion as to his motives.
Mueller investigation is about more than Trump
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The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.
I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.
Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.
He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.
I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.
I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.
There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.
Like that.
And these.
Then there's these instances.
Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about."the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?
- Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
- Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
- Citation needed.
- Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
- Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
- He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
- Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
- He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
- LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
- You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
- He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
- He's dead, I doubt he would care.
- He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.
I'm afraid you're so self-drowning in partisan hackery that you have no idea what the point is.
e.g.:
-- Whether "he would be right" about 'shithole' IS NOT THE POINT.
-- Whether denigrating a woman on the basis of her looks wins an election or not IS NOT THE POINT.
-- and myriad deflections to Bernie Sanders and Eisenhower taxes IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. It's running away from one. Nor is "he mocks everybody"
You're not ready for this.
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my cat is a better person that obama being my cat didnt give IRAN 150 Billion Dollars to build and sell bombs
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The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.
I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.
Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.
He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.
I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.
I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.
There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.
Like that.
And these.
Then there's these instances.
Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about."the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?
- Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
- Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
- Citation needed.
- Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
- Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
- He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
- Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
- He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
- LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
- You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
- He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
- He's dead, I doubt he would care.
- He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.
I'm afraid you're so self-drowning in partisan hackery that you have no idea what the point is.
e.g.:
-- Whether "he would be right" about 'shithole' IS NOT THE POINT.
-- Whether denigrating a woman on the basis of her looks wins an election or not IS NOT THE POINT.
-- and myriad deflections to Bernie Sanders and Eisenhower taxes IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. It's running away from one. Nor is "he mocks everybody"
You're not ready for this.
You're the one that missed the point.
He was right about the country, therefor you're simply whining that he pointed out the truth. If it bothered them, they'd have solved the problem, and there's no reason for it to bother us, we don't live there. Whine louder, maybe he'll conform to what YOU believe is the RIGHT way to speak.
My point wasn't that he won, my point was that the fact that he won is evidence that it didn't bother as many people as you'd like to think it did. Whether you'd like to believe it or not, the left doesn't dictate the opinions of the Nation, let alone the world.
I was mocking your argument by pointing out that there are REAL problems he can be causing rather than simply hurting your poor little feelings, and Eisenhower being economically illiterate was an example. I also pointed out that he was correct that the system was rigged, which is what you were whining about him pointing out. The fact that he's correct is what you have a problem with.
You're the one isn't ready, you can't defend your position against me.
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No. Although I liked him at first. Thought he was an ultra liberal who was too incompetent at politics to harm the country, but who was a basically nice family oriented guy....
But later realized there is nothing classy or dignified about an America-hating narcissist. His and Hillary's dirty dealings are coming to light, though we all know nothing will be done about it. It's just the way Democrats operate and it's accepted by fellow Democrats.
But later realized there is nothing classy or dignified about an America-hating narcissist. His and Hillary's dirty dealings are coming to light, though we all know nothing will be done about it. It's just the way Democrats operate and it's accepted by fellow Democrats.
The protestors being the left, the left being the thing ruining America. He also didn't declare war on the first amendment, the left tends to destroy random things when they protest.
I'm sure you can find as many things to whine about, true or untrue, as you'd like.
Their administration did such a horrible job, they pretty much asked for it.
He ran his own business, which he had been earning money on, and it's very successful. Even if that were true, he's still a successful businessman. He also beat the left for the presidency himself, so there's that.
I fully addressed your question, Obama was a failure, a hack, and fully unqualified for the office, as well as guilty of pretty much everything you claim Trump is.
I fully addressed your point, you just don't want to see your point addressed. I pointed out he united the people, which is the opposite of what you claim happened.
There's really enough ANTIFA violence to overshadow any "Right Wing" Violence on its own, though really, the loosest term for it would be Social Justice Warriors, which encompasses the Third Wave Feminists, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and a few small splinter groups. They tend to assault anyone who disagrees with them, they're very loud, and during the election, there were videos of them attacking people for having Trump stickers, they smashed windshields, stole signs, etc.
Like that.
And these.
Then there's these instances.
Yet, he hasn't hurt any of those groups. He may have insulted people part of those groups, but just because you'd LIKE to pretend he was insulting entire groups, that doesn't make it so. He's a rightists, and you're a leftist, so you probably don't need to make things up to whine about."the left"?
What, Mexicans don't count?
Women don't count?
Muslims don't count?
News reporters don't count?
Veterans don't count?
Congenitally disabled don't count?
Football players don't count?
The FBI doesn't count?
Univisión doesn't count?
Bob Corker and Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham don't count?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't count?
The Chicago Cubs don't count?
- Instead, he did ACTUAL damage, basically shredding our constitution.
- Not his fault she's permanently menstruating.
- Citation needed.
- Donald Trump was correct. Bernie got screwed by the DNC, the leftist media is a tool to hurt their opponents, and Obama encouraged illegals to vote.
- Not only was that alleged, but he wouldn't be wrong if he had said it.
- He's not obligated to show up in the first place, and he wasn't wrong that the moderators were attempting to sabotage him.
- Excuse him for not limiting his speech to what the whiny left considers PC. I didn't agree with saying something like that, yet he's free to do so. Clearly it didn't bother as many people as you'd have liked, considering Hillary lost.
- He made that statement in response to others insulting his hands.
- LBJ was busy being one of the top five worst presidents in history, you'll have to excuse him for not getting around to it.
- You must be a top, because you seem to spin pretty frequently. Donald Trump pretty much mocked everyone.
- He was busy multiplying taxes to several times what they should be.
- He's dead, I doubt he would care.
- He should instead whine that people said things he disagreed with on an online message board.
I'm afraid you're so self-drowning in partisan hackery that you have no idea what the point is.
e.g.:
-- Whether "he would be right" about 'shithole' IS NOT THE POINT.
-- Whether denigrating a woman on the basis of her looks wins an election or not IS NOT THE POINT.
-- and myriad deflections to Bernie Sanders and Eisenhower taxes IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. It's running away from one. Nor is "he mocks everybody"
You're not ready for this.
Actually, Pirogue did quite well addressing your attempted points.
IMHO, Pirogue waxed your ass!
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I agree with those posters who discern a difference between "dignified" and "classy."
"Dignified" may refer to one's public appearance; "classy" may refer to one's actions.
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I agree that all fair-minded people congratulate President Obama on being very dignified.
a. He always spoke carefully.
b. He never lost his temper.
c. He never used vulgar language.
I think that he was unfairly criticized, for example, for bowing to some foreign leaders. He was simply showing respect to his elders. As a (very) senior citizen, I wish more people would show similar respect!
Yes, President Obama deserves an A+ for his dignified demeanor.
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I personally do not consider some of his actions as "classy," however.
a. There were probably other Americans who were disappointed that he went on national television to discuss the case of the young man who had been killed in Florida.
b. There were probably other Americans who were disappointed that he invited the Rev. Mr. Sharpton to the White House so often.
"Dignified" may refer to one's public appearance; "classy" may refer to one's actions.
*****
I agree that all fair-minded people congratulate President Obama on being very dignified.
a. He always spoke carefully.
b. He never lost his temper.
c. He never used vulgar language.
I think that he was unfairly criticized, for example, for bowing to some foreign leaders. He was simply showing respect to his elders. As a (very) senior citizen, I wish more people would show similar respect!
Yes, President Obama deserves an A+ for his dignified demeanor.
*****
I personally do not consider some of his actions as "classy," however.
a. There were probably other Americans who were disappointed that he went on national television to discuss the case of the young man who had been killed in Florida.
b. There were probably other Americans who were disappointed that he invited the Rev. Mr. Sharpton to the White House so often.
/-----/ They say Hitler was a real ladies man and Mussolini got the trains to run on time. Can democRATs admit that much about them?
/-----/ He was the complete opposite. Were you not paying attention?
'I,' 'Me,' 'My'—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times - CNS News
https://www.cnsnews.com/.../i-me-my-obama-uses-first-person-singular-199-times-spe...
Jul 11, 2014 - By contrast, President Abraham Lincoln's Gettyburg Address was only 272 words--and did not include any form of the first person singular. ... In one 68-word passage--in which he vowed to act unilaterally if Congress did not enact legislation he liked--Obama used the first person singular five more times ...
Not counting instances when he quoted a letter from a citizen or cited dialogue from a movie, President Barack Obama used the first person singular--including the pronouns "I" and "me" and the adjective "my"--199 times in a speech he delivered Thursday vowing to use unilateral executive action to achieve his policy goals that Congress would not enact through the normal, constitutional legislative process.
“It is lonely, me just doing stuff,” Obama said at the speech in Austin, Texas, according to the official transcript and video posted on the White House website.
“I’m just telling the truth now,” Obama told the crowd. “I don't have to run for office again, so I can just let her rip. And I want to assure you, I’m really not that partisan of a guy.”
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mikegriffith1
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FYI, Trump has instructed the IRS not to require people to complete the health care question on the tax form and not to enforce the Obamacare penalty. Those measures are in effect right now.
The economy has improved so well under Trump because of his sweeping deregulation and because he has instilled confidence and hope in the business sector by making it clear that he is their friend, not their enemy.
Yes, because once the Republicans took control of the House, they stopped Obama's agenda and imposed fiscal discipline.
Obama does deserve credit for the good things he did on the economic front: He signed the Budget Control Act of 2011. He made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent in 2013, against the advice of liberal quack economists like Paul Krugman and the nuts at the Center for American Progress. He capped the capital gains tax rate at 20%, which was lower than it was under Reagan. The sad thing is that much of Obama's good moves--much, not all--were cancelled out by his over-regulation, by Obamacare, by Dodd-Frank, etc., etc.
You need to consult some reliable news sources. Numerous economic indicators that have been down or stagnant are showing very positive signs since Trump came to office. I don't think you realize the degree of Trump's deregulation, which he started almost as soon as he took office. This has had a huge impact for good.
The tax cuts are not just for "huge corporations and the wealthy." Sheesh, why don't you break down and *read* the tax-cut bill. The biggest rate cuts went to the middle class by far, not to the rich. And the corporate tax cut simply brought our corporate tax rate down to the level of that in Asia and Europe (the average corporate tax rate in those regions is around 18-21%--ours is now 21%).
Another great thing that the tax cuts are doing is attracting American business money back to the U.S. from being parked overseas. The special repatriation tax rate of 15.5% is causing many companies to bring hundreds of billions of dollars in parked money back to the U.S. This has already started happening.
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