Can religion REALLY predict your VOTE?

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Can religion REALLY predict your VOTE? | Blaze Media

Questions regarding whether or not America is still a religious country have been circulating for years, and political science professor Ryan Burge believes he may have some answers. In a General Social Survey Burge shared that spans from 1988 to 2022, the share of Americans who “believe in...

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Questions regarding whether or not America is still a religious country have been circulating for years, and political science professor Ryan Burge believes he may have some answers.

In a General Social Survey Burge shared that spans from 1988 to 2022, the share of Americans who “believe in God without a doubt” has dropped across all political ideologies — but one more than others.

In 1988, 66% of Republicans believed in God without a doubt, and in 2022, that number dropped to 63%. For independents, the number was 59% but dropped to 51%. However, when it comes to godlessness, Democrats take the cake.

Beginning at 63% in 1988, only 39% of Democrats in 2022 reported believing in God without a doubt.

“What we’ve seen more and more over the last 25 years is that God gap has really sorted itself out now, where the Republican Party is definitely the party of religious people, and the Democratic Party has become the party of a couple different groups,” Burge tells Stu Burguiere on “Stu Does America.”


“The Republican Party has stayed relatively white and Christian. It’s still 75% white Christians today. The Democratic Party, however, is 45% nonreligious now and only about 35% white Christians,” he explains, adding, “In some ways, the Republican Party looks like what America looked like 30 or 40 years ago.”

Sounds about right.

 

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What is the reason for this?

Anyone?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Can religion REALLY predict your VOTE? | Blaze Media

Questions regarding whether or not America is still a religious country have been circulating for years, and political science professor Ryan Burge believes he may have some answers. In a General Social Survey Burge shared that spans from 1988 to 2022, the share of Americans who “believe in...

www.theblaze.com

Questions regarding whether or not America is still a religious country have been circulating for years, and political science professor Ryan Burge believes he may have some answers.

In a General Social Survey Burge shared that spans from 1988 to 2022, the share of Americans who “believe in God without a doubt” has dropped across all political ideologies — but one more than others.

In 1988, 66% of Republicans believed in God without a doubt, and in 2022, that number dropped to 63%. For independents, the number was 59% but dropped to 51%. However, when it comes to godlessness, Democrats take the cake.

Beginning at 63% in 1988, only 39% of Democrats in 2022 reported believing in God without a doubt.

“What we’ve seen more and more over the last 25 years is that God gap has really sorted itself out now, where the Republican Party is definitely the party of religious people, and the Democratic Party has become the party of a couple different groups,” Burge tells Stu Burguiere on “Stu Does America.”


“The Republican Party has stayed relatively white and Christian. It’s still 75% white Christians today. The Democratic Party, however, is 45% nonreligious now and only about 35% white Christians,” he explains, adding, “In some ways, the Republican Party looks like what America looked like 30 or 40 years ago.”

Sounds about right.

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Great post!

My religion changed a great deal in the past couple of years, but it didn't change my vote. Because of what my church believes, I agreed with President Trump a little less, but he was still 10,000% better than the alternative. Now we support him and have hope that he might see things differently in time. He's made a gigantic step, when you see how much of his administration is Catholic.


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Can religion REALLY predict your VOTE? | Blaze Media

Questions regarding whether or not America is still a religious country have been circulating for years, and political science professor Ryan Burge believes he may have some answers. In a General Social Survey Burge shared that spans from 1988 to 2022, the share of Americans who “believe in...

www.theblaze.com

Questions regarding whether or not America is still a religious country have been circulating for years, and political science professor Ryan Burge believes he may have some answers.

In a General Social Survey Burge shared that spans from 1988 to 2022, the share of Americans who “believe in God without a doubt” has dropped across all political ideologies — but one more than others.

In 1988, 66% of Republicans believed in God without a doubt, and in 2022, that number dropped to 63%. For independents, the number was 59% but dropped to 51%. However, when it comes to godlessness, Democrats take the cake.

Beginning at 63% in 1988, only 39% of Democrats in 2022 reported believing in God without a doubt.

“What we’ve seen more and more over the last 25 years is that God gap has really sorted itself out now, where the Republican Party is definitely the party of religious people, and the Democratic Party has become the party of a couple different groups,” Burge tells Stu Burguiere on “Stu Does America.”


“The Republican Party has stayed relatively white and Christian. It’s still 75% white Christians today. The Democratic Party, however, is 45% nonreligious now and only about 35% white Christians,” he explains, adding, “In some ways, the Republican Party looks like what America looked like 30 or 40 years ago.”

Sounds about right.

America has been changing since 07/05/1776. Keep up with the times grandpa.

 

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Great post!

My religion changed a great deal in the past couple of years, but it didn't change my vote. Because of what my church believes, I agreed with President Trump a little less, but he was still 10,000% better than the alternative. Now we support him and have hope that he might see things differently in time. He's made a gigantic step, when you see how much of his administration is Catholic.


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What do you make of it?

Why does the great political divide seem to come down to people who practice their faith verses those who do not?

 

[Donald H]

Beginning at 63% in 1988, only 39% of Democrats in 2022 reported believing in God without a doubt.

There has to be a distinction made between those who believe the bibles to be the literal truth, and those more modern Christians who believe it's all allegory.

I think the political left is always going to be the first that rejects the bibles to be the literal truth.

This thread can test my theory, if any Christian is brave and honest enough to say which is their belief?

 

[Votto]

America has been changing since 07/05/1776. Keep up with the times grandpa.

As was said in the article.

“In some ways, the Republican Party looks like what America looked like 30 or 40 years ago.”

So, why is the great political divide seem to be related to people of faith verse people like yourself?

 

[Donald H]

What do you make of it?

Why does the great political divide seem to come down to people who practice their faith verses those who do not?

Are you brave enough to say how your religion changed? Have you come to accept, along with the Catholic church that only some of the bibles are literally true?

Noah's ark?
The great flood covering the entire earth?

 

[Votto]

The Bible has both allegory and literal truth in it.

The Bible even admits to the allegory at times.

I think what you are saying is, people who reject the Bible are intellectually superior to those who accept it as the inspired word of God. You poke fun of Christians who might believe in a literal Noah's Ark, for example, as being implausible because you find it absurdly impossible.

But then you turn right around and expect society to swallow the notion that men can have babies, and that trans folk should play in women's sports?

Really?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

What do you make of it?

Why does the great political divide seem to come down to people who practice their faith verses those who do not?

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It's hard to say, from my point of view, since the Catholic church is bleeding members by the day.

Last I heard, only 10% of practicing Catholics in Italy attend Mass.

The number of American Catholics who believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ has dropped from about 75% to about 30%.

My perspective may be different than lots of other Catholics because I am a very new Catholic and still forming a lot of my thoughts, but I do live in, and am very comfortable in a parish that my priest describes as very devout. The other church I occasionally attend does not give me the impression of piety among its parishioners, or in its priest.


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[Votto]

Are you brave enough to say how your religion changed? Have you come to accept, along with the Catholic church that only some of the bibles are literally true?

Noah's ark?
The great flood covering the entire earth?

Without question there was a Great Flood because all the ancient cultures speak of it.

To even know what a flood is, one would have to experience one.

Really, the only question becomes how big was the Great Flood?

Does it matter that much to you how big it was?

 

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It's hard to say, from my point of view, since the Catholic church is bleeding members by the day.

Last I heard, only 10% of practicing Catholics in Italy attend Mass.

The number of American Catholics who believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ has dropped from about 75% to about 30%.

My perspective may be different than lots of other Catholics because I am a very new Catholic and still forming a lot of my thoughts, but I do live in, and am very comfortable in a parish that my priest describes as very devout. The other church I occasionally attend does not give me the impression of piety among its parishioners, or in its priest.


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There is no question that society has become increasingly secularized in the US.

Why do you think that is and why does that then prompt the nonbelievers to vote "D"?

 

[Donald H]

The Bible has both allegory and literal truth in it.

Yes, at least I suspect that to be true.
But no Christian has suggested anything in the bibles to be literally true.

The Bible even admits to the allegory at times.

Yes, and it certainly must in a modern world. I doubt it did even as little as 50 years ago.

I think what you are saying is, people who reject the Bible are intellectually superior to those who accept it as the inspired word of God.

No, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm suggesting that Christians who now accept most of the bible as 'allegory', are the intellectually superior. In fact I'm also saying that any Christian who believes the ark story is literally true, has to be a few bricks short of a load. It's literally impossible to believe! That doesn't make them non-believers, it makes them more rational believers.

You poke fun of Christians who might believe in a literal Noah's Ark, for example, as being implausible because you find it absurdly impossible.

I don't poke fun at Christians.

But then you turn right around and expect society to swallow the notion that men can have babies, and that trans folk should play in women's sports?

Really?

No, I don't, but do stick to the topic.

 

[my2¢]

Even Mother Teresa doubted. It isn't necessarily a bad thing and can even deepen the relationship with God.

One of the few churches I follow had a sermon series on doubt 11 months ago...

 

[Votto]

Yes, at least I suspect that to be true.
But no Christian has suggested anything in the bibles to be literally true.

Yes, and it certainly must in a modern world. I doubt it did even as little as 50 years ago.

No, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm suggesting that Christians who now accept most of the bible as 'allegory', are the intellectually superior. In fact I'm also saying that any Christian who believes the ark story is literally true, has to be a few bricks short of a load. It's literally impossible to believe! That doesn't make them non-believers, it makes them more rational believers.

Wait..............wut?

No Christian suggests that there is anything in the Bible that is literally true?

Science has proven that some of what is written is literal truth.

For example, there is no other historical source for recording the existence of the Phillistines.

The Bible is the only historical source for this. So, Biblical Archaeologists read about them in scripture, and started to dig where the Bible described them as living and found them.

Funny that.

And no, Biblical Archaeology is not a fundy cult religion. They are simply scientists who have recognized that the veracity of the Bible is reliable enough to use as a source to find digs.

As for believing Biblical stories like Jesus' walking on water, is there a God or isn't there? If there is, miracles are gonna happen. In fact, the beginning of the universe and then later the beginning of life itself is a miracle that demands explained.

 

[Donald H]

Without question there was a Great Flood because all the ancient cultures speak of it.

Yes, it's a favourite for a lot of religions. There are floods but there are no floods that reach the proportions proposed in the Noah story.

To even know what a flood is, one would have to experience one.

Yes, I would say that's partially true.

Really, the only question becomes how big was the Great Flood?

Exactly! But there's no question that it didn't cover the entire planet.
A possible escape can be the interpretation of some Christians that covering the earth really means covering 'earth' or 'dirt'. Do you accept that?

Does it matter that much to you how big it was?

It matters because it's the difference between allegory and literal truth.
Now do you accept it as allegory? I didn't say lies because allegory is acceptable to Democrat Christians.

Is it acceptable to R Christians too?

 

[Votto]

Yes, it's a favourite for a lot of religions. There are floods but there are no floods that reach the proportions proposed in the Noah story.

Yes, I would say that's partially true.

Exactly! But there's no question that it didn't cover the entire planet.
A possible escape can be the interpretation of some Christians that covering the earth really means covering 'earth' or 'dirt'. Do you accept that?

It matters because it's the difference between allegory and literal truth.
Now do you accept it as allegory? I didn't say lies because allegory is acceptable to Democrat Christians.

Is it acceptable to R Christians too?

There are two issue at play here. One is true allegory verses Hebrew interpretation into English

For example, ancient Hebrew scholars felt that the universe was much older than 6 thousand years old because of the Hebrew verbiage used in Genesis that is lost in the King James Translation.

Why did they think this when science had not yet told us otherwise?

 

[Donald H]

Even Mother Teresa doubted. It isn't necessarily a bad thing and can even deepen the relationship with God.

One of the few churches I follow had a sermon series on doubt 11 months ago...

Making excuses and trying to turn doubt into a good thing!

Can it be applied to Noah's ark nonsense?
Do Christians 'doubt' that the dinosaurs heads stuck out the roof, instead of giraffe necks?

 

[DGS49]

The Leftist public schools teach that YOU are the one who decides what is your good and evil. In a sense, YOU are "God." So why would children indoctrinated in such a system relinquish their power to determine their own virtue, when they might come up short when measured on an objective basis?

"MY truth." What a concept!

What the adults in the room have to know is that faith is a choice. It is not something bestowed from above as a gift to individual humans. It is a choice that you make. Do you want to live in a universe where "good" and "evil" are situational and subjective, and where death is the end of everything? Or do you want to live in a universe where there are universal standards, universal truths, and where a virtuous life will be rewarded and an evil life punished (or extinguished) after death.

Like it or not, it is a choice that we make.

 

[Donald H]

There are two issue at play here. One is true allegory verses Hebrew interpretation into English

For example, ancient Hebrew scholars felt that the universe was much older than 6 thousand years old because of the Hebrew verbiage used in Genesis that is lost in the King James Translation.

Why did they think this when science had not yet told us otherwise?

Interpret the bible stories whatever way you think is the truth. Make the earth as old as you like! But get ready for the answers you get from science.

Or rather, just stall off for a few minutes and this thread will get closed.