Can Putin rebuild the Iron Curtain?

[Rambunctious]

I really do not believe Putin wants that and I know the Russian people don't... what Putin wants is national security and sovereignty and to be allowed to do business without sanctions... maybe stop threatening all that and work with the guy...

 

[Zincwarrior]

Putin clearly wants to rebuild the Iron Curtain. Can he be stopped?
Well we have Ukraine busy doing the heavy lifting to stop him.
I like our country better as it helps Ukraine beat up Russia. I am not calling for US Troops. But we have far better weapons than Russia has and we must help Ukraine beat Putin silly. Ignore Putin's threats as he is far weaker than he wants us all to realize. Ask Trump to hurry up beating Putin up. Biden slow walked his help to Putin. We do not want Americans there fighting. If we lack the guts to help Ukraine later our troops will definitely be directly involved. Who wants Putin beaten back?

Finally I am old enough to remember that Hitler took over countries as FDR sat on his ass. Must we repeat the mistakes made by FDR?

Stopped? He's MAGA's hero.

 

[Robert W]

Stopped? He's MAGA's hero.

I am proudly MAGA and Putin is my enemy.

 

[Robert W]

I really do not believe Putin wants that and I know the Russian people don't... what Putin wants is national security and sovereignty and to be allowed to do business without sanctions... maybe stop threatening all that and work with the guy...

You would have a good chance to persuade me except I know it was Putin that invaded Ukraine and yes he had earlier stole Crimea. Putin might start WW3.

 

[Rambunctious]

You would have a good chance to persuade me except I know it was Putin that invaded Ukraine and yes he had earlier stole Crimea. Putin might start WW3.

But we don't know why he invaded Ukraine... our media won't even approach that question or attempt to get an answer...
Trump will get an answer and then we can set a course of action...
I suspect our own CIA had a hand in pushing Russia to the brink but if I'm wrong I will admit my error...

 

[luiza]

Putin clearly wants to rebuild the Iron Curtain.

Absolutely zero evidnce for that assertion .

Russia is very conscious of needing to add to its population within existing Federation borders .
Numbers are very low versus available space .

And these days Russia is at the forefront of invading without even thinking in terms of boots on the ground .
As is China .
In contrast the US is being kicked out everwhere and most noticeably in Africa currently .

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Robert W. is right in that Putin wants the old Russia of the Czar and the USSR.

 

[Robert W]

But we don't know why he invaded Ukraine... our media won't even approach that question or attempt to get an answer...
Trump will get an answer and then we can set a course of action...
I suspect our own CIA had a hand in pushing Russia to the brink but if I'm wrong I will admit my error...

I compare that to when Hitler stole Poland. I don't care why he and Putin did it, I won't support Putin. I am willing to wait on Trump.

 

[Zavulon]

First of all, Putin definitely doesn't want to build "Iron Curtain". He is a Pontiflex. He builds bridges, not curtains.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

First of all, Putin definitely doesn't want to build "Iron Curtain". He is a Pontiflex. He builds bridges, not curtains.

Nah, he is a pitiful, little kitten riding would-be czarist.

 

[Zavulon]

Robert W. is right in that Putin wants the old Russia of the Czar and the USSR.

Doesn't he want Future Russia, like Imperium of Man, and himself as Imperor of Humankind?

 

[Robert W]

Absolutely zero evidnce for that assertion .

Russia is very conscious of needing to add to its population within existing Federation borders .
Numbers are very low versus available space .

And these days Russia is at the forefront of invading without even thinking in terms of boots on the ground .
As is China .
In contrast the US is being kicked out everwhere and most noticeably in Africa currently .

Will any true experts about Putin please step forward to explain him. Thank you John Slow Horses for supporting my version.

 

[Zavulon]

Will any true experts about Putin please step forward to explain him. Thank you John Slow Horses for supporting my version.

I'm not an "expert about Putin", (nobody is) but I certainly know about him much more than you (at least because literally everything you think you know about Russia and Putin is a plain lie).

 

[ThirdTerm]

Ukraine is similar Puerto Rico, a self-governing Caribbean archipelago, which is not the official state of the United States but acts like one. Russia had no problem with letting go of Poland and Hungary but Ukraine is considered an indispensable part of Russia with deep historical links. Kiev is the birthplace of modern Russia.

Kievan Rus' - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Rambunctious]

I compare that to when Hitler stole Poland. I don't care why he and Putin did it, I won't support Putin. I am willing to wait on Trump.

Hitler 1939 took Poland and less than a year later he took Denmark and Belgium and Luxembourg in May 1940 and in 1941 he invaded Russia... no comparison to what Russia is doing in Ukraine... not even close...
Either we work with Russia or China and Iran will...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Hitler 1939 took Poland and less than a year later he took Denmark and Belgium and Luxembourg in May 1940 and in 1941 he invaded Russia... no comparison to what Russia is doing in Ukraine... not even close...
Either we work with Russia or China and Iran will...

Russia gets out of Ukraine, and we will work with both.

 

[Rambunctious]

Russia gets out of Ukraine, and we will work with both.

We don't even know what Putin's beef was... Biden didn't bother to ask... the media didn't either... they both just wanted this war for whatever reason... and they got it...

 

[Zavulon]

Russia gets out of Ukraine, and we will work with both.

No way. NATO gets out of Eastern Europe and then, may be, we'll work.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No way. NATO gets out of Eastern Europe and then, may be, we'll work.

Russia is the weak man of Europe.

 

[Robert W]

no comparison to what Russia is doing in Ukraine... not even close...

Russia lacks troops and effective weapons to beat Ukraine. Let me say now, we must help Ukraine and of course we don't really need to put our troops there.