Can Palestinians Ever Succeed?

[High_Gravity]

Well I heard the Palestinians make some groovy shawarmas.

 

[High_Gravity]

Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product (GDP)Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product is worth 376 billion dollars or 0.61% of the world economy, according to the World Bank.

Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product (GDP)

still higher than Israels

Without oil, Saudi Arabia is just a desert, dimwit. And, oil is a natural resource

Israel is a global leader in everything from information technology to pharmaceuticals.

You're really dumb.

Pfft without oil Saudi Arabia would like a poor African country.

 

[Moonglow]

Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product (GDP)

still higher than Israels

Without oil, Saudi Arabia is just a desert, dimwit. And, oil is a natural resource

Israel is a global leader in everything from information technology to pharmaceuticals.

You're really dumb.

Pfft without oil Saudi Arabia would like a poor African country.

probably so, but the fact remains they have a higher GNP than Israel

 

[JStone]

Without oil, Saudi Arabia is just a desert, dimwit. And, oil is a natural resource

Israel is a global leader in everything from information technology to pharmaceuticals.

You're really dumb.

Pfft without oil Saudi Arabia would like a poor African country.

probably so, but the fact remains they have a higher GNP than Israel

Saudi Arabia's GDP is based on stealing oil from the Earth. Israel's GDP is based on innovation, kid.

 

[P F Tinmore]

sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.

Meanwhile, you sit in your bedroom playing with yourself.

such a deep thinker, anymore words of wisdom?

When did asshole Churchill ever think highly of the natives he was kicking out of the way to create British colonies?

When did Arabs ever think highly of their own Pallie brethren?

Wall Street Journal: "The Arab World's Dirty Secret".

As Israelis and Palestinians prepare to visit Washington next week to begin direct peace talks, it's worth recalling what refugees the Palestinians are—in Arab countries.

Last week, Lebanon's parliament amended a clause in a 1946 law that had been used to bar the 400,000 Palestinians living in the country from taking any but the most menial jobs. "I was born in Lebanon and I have never known Palestine," the AP quoted one 45-year-old Palestinian who works as a cab driver. "We want to live like Lebanese. We are human beings and we need civil rights."

The dirty little secret of the Arab world is that it has consistently treated Palestinians living in its midst with contempt and often violence. In 1970, Jordan expelled thousands of Palestinian militants after Yasser Arafat attempted a coup against King Hussein. In 1991, Kuwait expelled some 400,000 Palestinians working in the country as punishment for Arafat's support for Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War.

For six decades, Palestinians have been forced by Arab governments to live in often squalid conditions so that they could serve as propaganda tools against Israel, even as millions of refugees elsewhere have been repatriated and absorbed by their host countries. This month's vote still falls short of giving Palestinian Lebanese the rights they deserve, including citizenship. But it's a reminder of the cynicism of so much Arab pro-Palestinian propaganda, and the credulity of those who fall for it.

The Huffington Riposte: WHO ARE THE GREATEST PERSECUTORS OF THE PALESTINIANS? NOT ISRAEL, IT IS THE REST OF THE ARAB WORLD

British Muslims For Israel: SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT

Here at BMFI, we do not believe the Arab-Israeli conflict is a war over land or religion, but it is a clash of ideas. Israel, as a Western liberal democracy, extends equal rights to all of its citizens, regardless of religion or race. Muslims have more rights in Israel than in any other country in the Middle East.

While Egypt guns down Sudanese refugees fleeing the murderous oppression of their government, Israel gives them home and shelter; while Lebanon denies Palestinian refugees access to healthcare, Israel provides emergency treatment for the residents of the West Bank and Gaza strip; while Syria keeps the Palestinians in refugee camps and sporadically slaughters them, Israel offered full citizenship to all its Palestinians after the Arab states attempted to destroy Israel and slaughter its Holocaust survivors in 1948.

British Muslims for Israel

Maybe, that's why Pallies want to be Israelis...

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution, while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to Palestine.


The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state -- and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country.

PostPartisan - Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

Muslims have more rights in Israel than in any other country in the Middle East.

Christians and Jews have more rights in Palestine than Muslims and Christians in Israel. Palestinian Jews are safer than Israeli Jews.

The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state --

A Palestinian state that has been trashed by Israel for a hundred years.

OK, I can see their point.

 

[JStone]

such a deep thinker, anymore words of wisdom?

Go fuck yourself.

another deep thinker.Is that all u got, or did you fire all guns at once/

Your thinking is about as deep as a gob of spit.

 

[P F Tinmore]

the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world

sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.

Israel has a $200 billion GDP. Combined GDPs of all 22 Arab shitholes are LESS THAN that of Spain.

Are Arabs and Pallies just programmed for failure?

Actually, Palestine was was doing a lot better before it was invaded by Israel.

 

[Moonglow]

Go fuck yourself.

another deep thinker.Is that all u got, or did you fire all guns at once/

Your thinking is about as deep as a gob of spit.

does ur God agree?

 

[High_Gravity]

sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.

Israel has a $200 billion GDP. Combined GDPs of all 22 Arab shitholes are LESS THAN that of Spain.

Are Arabs and Pallies just programmed for failure?

Actually, Palestine was was doing a lot better before it was invaded by Israel.

How so? I heard it was a barren desert with some nomads until the Jews started running shop over there.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has a $200 billion GDP. Combined GDPs of all 22 Arab shitholes are LESS THAN that of Spain.

Are Arabs and Pallies just programmed for failure?

Actually, Palestine was was doing a lot better before it was invaded by Israel.

How so? I heard it was a barren desert with some nomads until the Jews started running shop over there.

Yeah, we have all heard that at least a million times.

In order to create an alleged justification for the crime of genocide they have committed against the Palestinian Arabs, the Zionists have tried to convince the world that Palestine was practically uninhabited, "A Land Without People for a People without a Land." They created and propagated the myths that the Palestinian Arabs were nomads or seminomads without a culture and civilization, that the Palestinians had neither a national identity nor existence, that the Palestinians lacked an economic structure and roots in the land.

The continuity of the Palestinian roots in the land in fact goes back to antiquity. Absorbing or outlasting various conquerors, Palestinians tenaciously tended their ancestral farmlands, whether as freeholders or as tenants and mortgagees, and by the end of World War 11, mostly as unfettered freeholders again. In his study of the history of landholdings in Palestine, Abraham Granott, formerly Managing Director of the Jewish National Fund, admits:

When the kingdom of Byzantium was subjugated by the Arabs, practically the whole of the land belonged to the big proprietors, the Emperor, the municipal authorities, and religious bodies, as churches and so on, while the soil was cultivated by the former owners who had remained on their plots as tenants after the land had passed into the hands of large owners.(1)

Thus the Palestinian farmers expelled by the Zionists in 1948 were the lineal descendants of the most ancient owners of the land. The Palestinian Arabs are the indigenous population of Palestine, the descendants of the Philistines and of all the Semitic peoples who have lived in Palestine since the time of the Canaanites. Successive waves of newcomers, such as Philistines from Crete, Semites from Iraq, Romans, Greeks and Arabs came and intermarried with the native stock.

The historical record disproves the Zionist lie that Palestine was undeveloped before the establishment of Jewish settlements in Palestine, Muqqadisi, a native of Jerusalem who died in 986 A.D., enumerated the principal products of Palestine in the tenth century

..among which agricultural produce was particularly copious and prized: fruit of every kind (olives, figs, grapes, quinces, plums, apples, dates, walnuts, almonds, jujubes and bananas), some of which were exported, and crops for processing (sugarcane, indigo and sumac). But the mineral resources were equally important: chalk earth, marble from Bayt Djibrin, and sulphur mined in the Jordan Valley, not to mention the salt and bitumen of the Dead Sea. Stone, which was common in the country, was the most generally used building material for towns of any importance.(2)

Chapter 2: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem

 

[JStone]

sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.

Israel has a $200 billion GDP. Combined GDPs of all 22 Arab shitholes are LESS THAN that of Spain.

Are Arabs and Pallies just programmed for failure?

Actually, Palestine was was doing a lot better before it was invaded by Israel.

You lie, again, Pinocchio.

John F. Kennedy was in Palestine and knew better...

When the first Zionist conference met in 1897, Palestine was a neglected wasteland... I went to Palestine in 1939; and I saw there an unhappy land...For century after century, Romans, Turks, Christians, Moslems, Pagans, British – all had conquered the Holy Land – but none could make it prosper. In the words of Israel Zangwill: “The land without a people waited for the people without a land.” The realm where once milk and honey flowed, and civilization flourished, was in 1939 a barren realm – barren of hope and cheer and progress as well as crops and industries – a gloomy picture for a young man paying his first visit from the United States.

I first saw Palestine in 1939. There the neglect and ruin left by centuries of Ottoman [Muslim] misrule were slowly being transformed by miracles of [Jewish] labor and sacrifice. But Palestine was still a land of promise in 1939, rather than a land of fulfillment. I returned in 1951 to see the grandeur of Israel. In 3 years this new state had opened its doors to 600,000 immigrants and refugees. Even while fighting for its own survival, Israel had given new hope to the persecuted and new dignity to the pattern of Jewish life. I left with the conviction that the United Nations may have conferred on Israel the credentials of nationhood; but its own idealism and courage, its own sacrifice and generosity, had earned the credentials of immortality.

But 12 years later, in 1951, I traveled again to the land by the River Jordan – this time as a Member of the Congress of the United States – and this time to see first-hand the new State of Israel. The transformation which had taken place could not have been more complete. For between the time of my visit in 1939 and my visit in 1951, a nation had been reborn – a desert had been reclaimed – and a national integrity had been redeemed, after 2,000 years of seemingly endless waiting. Zion had at least been restored – and she had promptly opened her arms to the homeless and the weary and the persecuted. It was the “Ingathering of the Exiles” – they had heard the call of their homeland; and they had come, brands plucked from the burning – they had come from concentration camps and ghettoes, from distant exile and dangerous sanctuary, from broken homes in Poland and lonely huts in Yemen, like the ancient strangers in a strange land they had come. And Israel received them all, fed them, housed them, cared for them, bound up their wounds, and enlisted them in the struggle to build a new nation.

The technical skills and genius of Israel have already brought their blessings to Burma and to Ethiopia. Still other nations in Asia and in Africa are eager to benefit from the special skills available in that bustling land

John F. Kennedy: Speech by Senator John F. Kennedy, Zionists of America Convention, Statler Hilton Hotel, New York, NY
Remarks by Senator John F. Kennedy at Yankee Stadium on April 29, 1956 | Finding Camelot

 

[mudwhistle]

such a deep thinker, anymore words of wisdom?

Go fuck yourself.

another deep thinker.Is that all u got, or did you fire all guns at once/

Well, it seemed the thing to say at the time.

 

[mudwhistle]

Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product (GDP)

still higher than Israels

Without oil, Saudi Arabia is just a desert, dimwit. And, oil is a natural resource

Israel is a global leader in everything from information technology to pharmaceuticals.

You're really dumb.

Pfft without oil Saudi Arabia would like a poor African country.

Like Somalia