Can Palestinians Ever Succeed?

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As Secretary of Palestine during the British Mandate back in 1921, Winston Churchill spent a great deal of time with the Jews and the Arabs. As Churchill's official biographer, Sir Martin Gilbert, relates, the contrast between the extraordinarily negative points of view put forth by the Palestinian Arabs and the equally positive ones put forth by the Jews struck him enormously.

Churchill didn't like negativism and he couldn't comprehend why the Palestinian Arabs were being so negative. It's quite curious. If you have a look at what the Palestinian Arabs told him, you'll find that three or four are actually in the Hamas Charter today, such as the world Jewish conspiracy and so on and so forth. That said, the Palestinian Arabs just made a bad impression on him and subsequently, he became very negative toward them; in modern terms, almost racist. When Churchill spoke to the Palestinian Arabs, he actually said to them, 'You've got to help the Zionists. They're people of quality and inasmuch as they'll succeed, you'll succeed. Without them you won't succeed.'

This was back in 1921. In 2011, the Pallies remain unable to form a viable society with Hamas and Fatah factions murdering each other every day. Fratricide is never a good basis for forming a nation.

At the same time, the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world by all accounts Which begs the question, given Pallies' animosity toward the Jews, based on antiSemitic Islamic doctrine, will Churchill be proven correct that Pallies will never be successful on their own?
 

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When did asshole Churchill ever think highly of the natives he was kicking out of the way to create British colonies?
 
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When did asshole Churchill ever think highly of the natives he was kicking out of the way to create British colonies?
Jews are the natives of Israel and have lived in and ruled in Israel for 3000 years.

Pallies are Arab migrants from the desert of Arabia who arrived in the 20th century.

PBS Nova...
In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]
 

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the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world
sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
 
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the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world
sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
Meanwhile, you sit in your bedroom playing with yourself.
 

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the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world
sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
Meanwhile, you sit in your bedroom playing with yourself.
such a deep thinker, anymore words of wisdom?
 
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When did asshole Churchill ever think highly of the natives he was kicking out of the way to create British colonies?
When did Arabs ever think highly of their own Pallie brethren?

Wall Street Journal: "The Arab World's Dirty Secret".
As Israelis and Palestinians prepare to visit Washington next week to begin direct peace talks, it's worth recalling what refugees the Palestinians are—in Arab countries.

Last week, Lebanon's parliament amended a clause in a 1946 law that had been used to bar the 400,000 Palestinians living in the country from taking any but the most menial jobs. "I was born in Lebanon and I have never known Palestine," the AP quoted one 45-year-old Palestinian who works as a cab driver. "We want to live like Lebanese. We are human beings and we need civil rights."

The dirty little secret of the Arab world is that it has consistently treated Palestinians living in its midst with contempt and often violence. In 1970, Jordan expelled thousands of Palestinian militants after Yasser Arafat attempted a coup against King Hussein. In 1991, Kuwait expelled some 400,000 Palestinians working in the country as punishment for Arafat's support for Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War.

For six decades, Palestinians have been forced by Arab governments to live in often squalid conditions so that they could serve as propaganda tools against Israel, even as millions of refugees elsewhere have been repatriated and absorbed by their host countries. This month's vote still falls short of giving Palestinian Lebanese the rights they deserve, including citizenship. But it's a reminder of the cynicism of so much Arab pro-Palestinian propaganda, and the credulity of those who fall for it.

The Huffington Riposte: WHO ARE THE GREATEST PERSECUTORS OF THE PALESTINIANS? NOT ISRAEL, IT IS THE REST OF THE ARAB WORLD
British Muslims For Israel: SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
Here at BMFI, we do not believe the Arab-Israeli conflict is a war over land or religion, but it is a clash of ideas. Israel, as a Western liberal democracy, extends equal rights to all of its citizens, regardless of religion or race. Muslims have more rights in Israel than in any other country in the Middle East.

While Egypt guns down Sudanese refugees fleeing the murderous oppression of their government, Israel gives them home and shelter; while Lebanon denies Palestinian refugees access to healthcare, Israel provides emergency treatment for the residents of the West Bank and Gaza strip; while Syria keeps the Palestinians in refugee camps and sporadically slaughters them, Israel offered full citizenship to all its Palestinians after the Arab states attempted to destroy Israel and slaughter its Holocaust survivors in 1948.

British Muslims for Israel
Maybe, that's why Pallies want to be Israelis...

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis
One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution, while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to Palestine.


The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state -- and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country.

PostPartisan - Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens
 

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Give them their state and let them fail then. Oooops--too late--you accidently settled all of it. I hate when that happens.
 
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Give them their state and let them fail then. Oooops--too late--you accidently settled all of it. I hate when that happens.
Give statehood to terrorists? There are already 22 terrorist Arab and 60 terrorist Muslim shitholes. Not enough for you, dildo?

My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but allah, we will chase you everywhere We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no better blood than the blood of the Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood, we will not rest until you leave the Muslim countries.
 
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the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world
sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
Israel has a $200 billion GDP. Combined GDPs of all 22 Arab shitholes are LESS THAN that of Spain.

Are Arabs and Pallies just programmed for failure?
 

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the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world
sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
When did asshole Churchill ever think highly of the natives he was kicking out of the way to create British colonies?
Churchill is one of the most admired figures of the 20th century
Gallup's List of Most Widely Admired People of the 20th Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, Churchill received a Nobel Prize for historical literature
The Nobel Prize in Literature 1953

You, on the other hand, post in chat rooms in your underwear :lol:
Look at that list,

Mother Teresa
Martin Luther King, Jr.
John F. Kennedy
Albert Einstein
Helen Keller
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Billy Graham
Pope John Paul II
Eleanor Roosevelt
Winston Churchill
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
Mohandas Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Ronald Reagan
Henry Ford
Bill Clinton
Margaret Thatcher

Mohandas Gandhi, one of those natives hated by asshole Churchill
Nelson Mandela, on the "terrorist" watch list in the US until a year ago or so.
Ronald Reagan, you need to read up on the real Reagan.
Henry Ford, yeah I am sure you love him.
Bill Clinton & Margaret Thatcher, get serious.

Some of these people are being recognized for their accomplishments. Some are merely media creations.
 

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the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world
sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
When did asshole Churchill ever think highly of the natives he was kicking out of the way to create British colonies?
Churchill is one of the most admired figures of the 20th century
Gallup's List of Most Widely Admired People of the 20th Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, Churchill received a Nobel Prize for historical literature
The Nobel Prize in Literature 1953

You, on the other hand, post in chat rooms in your underwear :lol:
Look at that list,

Mother Teresa
Martin Luther King, Jr.
John F. Kennedy
Albert Einstein
Helen Keller
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Billy Graham
Pope John Paul II
Eleanor Roosevelt
Winston Churchill
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
Mohandas Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Ronald Reagan
Henry Ford
Bill Clinton
Margaret Thatcher

Mohandas Gandhi, one of those natives hated by asshole Churchill
Nelson Mandela, on the "terrorist" watch list in the US until a year ago or so.
Ronald Reagan, you need to read up on the real Reagan.
Henry Ford, yeah I am sure you love him.
Bill Clinton & Margaret Thatcher, get serious.

Some of these people are being recognized for their accomplishments. Some are merely media creations.
I see Winston Churchill on the list of most admired figures of the 20th century. You're not even admired in an internet chat room reflected by your zero reputational points even after 2 years :lol:
 

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the Israelis have built one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous societies in the world
sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
Israel has a $200 billion GDP. Combined GDPs of all 22 Arab shitholes are LESS THAN that of Spain.

Are Arabs and Pallies just programmed for failure?
still not enough GDP to consider they are better than the USA.
Why don't you live there?
 
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sorry but the USA beats Israel all to hell on this issue.
Do you live in israel? Why not? If it is such a wonderfull place, you should go be with your super humans.
Israel has a $200 billion GDP. Combined GDPs of all 22 Arab shitholes are LESS THAN that of Spain.

Are Arabs and Pallies just programmed for failure?
still not enough GDP to consider they are better than the USA.
Why don't you live there?
How old is the US? How large is the US? You're not the brightest bulb in the bunch but that has already been well-established.
 
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Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product (GDP)Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product is worth 376 billion dollars or 0.61% of the world economy, according to the World Bank.
Saudi Arabia Gross Domestic Product (GDP)

still higher than Israels
Without oil, Saudi Arabia is just a desert, dimwit. And, oil is a natural resource

Israel is a global leader in everything from information technology to pharmaceuticals.

You're really dumb.
 

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