Can Palestinian's and Israeli's ever be friends?

[Billo_Really]

Is there any chance these two groups can settle their differences and bury the hatchet?

That was the question that popped into my head when I saw the following picture...





...of Civil War veterans from the North and the South, coming together in 1913 to shake hands.

I'm thinking, if they can do it, why can't Palestinian's and Israeli's?

 

[S.J.]

They could (and WOULD) if the rest of the world would leave them alone to work out their differences.

 

[USAF 2023]

They could (and WOULD) if the rest of the world would leave them alone to work out their differences.

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

 

[Phoenall]

Is there any chance these two groups can settle their differences and bury the hatchet?

That was the question that popped into my head when I saw the following picture...





...of Civil War veterans from the North and the South, coming together in 1913 to shake hands.

I'm thinking, if they can do it, why can't Palestinian's and Israeli's?

Because the Palestinians don't want peace they want Israel and the Jews dead. That is their mantra and they will die by their thousands to achieve that end.

 

[S.J.]

They could (and WOULD) if the rest of the world would leave them alone to work out their differences.

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

True. I'm just saying they COULD, but I know they won't.

 

[Billo_Really]

They could (and WOULD) if the rest of the world would leave them alone to work out their differences.

We could send Don King to mediate.

 

[Billo_Really]

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

I thought it was end the occupation and the right of return?

 

[Phoenall]

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

I thought it was end the occupation and the right of return?

Then you would be wrong again and refuse to see the true proposals because they sit with your Jew Hatred

read the full peace plan here



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Text: Arab peace plan of 2002


1. Requests Israel to reconsider its policies and declare that a just peace is its strategic option as well.
2. Further calls upon Israel to affirm:
a. Full Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied since 1967, including the Syrian Golan Heights to the lines of June 4, 1967 as well as the remaining occupied Lebanese territories in the south of Lebanon.
b. Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian Refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 194.
c. The acceptance of the establishment of a Sovereign Independent Palestinian State on the Palestinian territories occupied since the 4th of June 1967 in the West Bank and Gaza strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
3. Consequently, the Arab Countries affirm the following:
a. Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region.
b. Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace.
4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries.
5. Calls upon the Government of Israel and all Israelis to accept this initiative in order to safeguard the prospects for peace and stop the further shedding of blood, enabling the Arab Countries and Israel to live in peace and good neighborliness and provide future generations with security, stability, and prosperity.
6. Invites the International Community and all countries and Organizations to support this initiative.
7. Requests the Chairman of the Summit to form a special committee composed of some of its concerned member states and the Secretary General of the League of Arab States to pursue the necessary contacts to gain support for this initiative at all levels, particularly from the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the Muslim States and the European Union.





Now we all know that for the occupation to end the Palestinians need to lay down their arms and give up terrorism, violence and belligerence. Just as we all know that the UN resolutions do not say that the Palestinians have the right to return, just that they have the right to apply to return and that all parties to the war in 1947 are equally responsible for payment and reparation to the refugees.

 

[Hollie]

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

I thought it was end the occupation and the right of return?

There's no occupation.

Egypt, Jordan, Syria, etc., will not accept the return of their former citizens, now falsely labeled as "Palestinians".

 

[Humanity]

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

I thought it was end the occupation and the right of return?

Then you would be wrong again and refuse to see the true proposals because they sit with your Jew Hatred

read the full peace plan here



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Text: Arab peace plan of 2002


1. Requests Israel to reconsider its policies and declare that a just peace is its strategic option as well.
2. Further calls upon Israel to affirm:
a. Full Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied since 1967, including the Syrian Golan Heights to the lines of June 4, 1967 as well as the remaining occupied Lebanese territories in the south of Lebanon.
b. Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian Refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 194.
c. The acceptance of the establishment of a Sovereign Independent Palestinian State on the Palestinian territories occupied since the 4th of June 1967 in the West Bank and Gaza strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
3. Consequently, the Arab Countries affirm the following:
a. Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region.
b. Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace.
4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries.
5. Calls upon the Government of Israel and all Israelis to accept this initiative in order to safeguard the prospects for peace and stop the further shedding of blood, enabling the Arab Countries and Israel to live in peace and good neighborliness and provide future generations with security, stability, and prosperity.
6. Invites the International Community and all countries and Organizations to support this initiative.
7. Requests the Chairman of the Summit to form a special committee composed of some of its concerned member states and the Secretary General of the League of Arab States to pursue the necessary contacts to gain support for this initiative at all levels, particularly from the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the Muslim States and the European Union.





Now we all know that for the occupation to end the Palestinians need to lay down their arms and give up terrorism, violence and belligerence. Just as we all know that the UN resolutions do not say that the Palestinians have the right to return, just that they have the right to apply to return and that all parties to the war in 1947 are equally responsible for payment and reparation to the refugees.

Just two points...

There is no mention of the "destruction of Israel"...

We ALL know that Israel will NEVER end the occupation no matter what the Palestinians do!

 

[rylah]

Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Qur'an) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs. It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend them to be taken in as friends by Muslims. In fact, the Qur'an plainly commands believers not to take unbelievers as friends.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur'an (1:5-7) - "Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger" specifically refers to Jews and "those who go astray" refers to Christians (see Bukhari (12:749)).

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Befriending Christians and Jews


The balestinins can't stop killing and torturing each other, how can they become friends with their enemies?

 

[Phoenall]

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

I thought it was end the occupation and the right of return?

Then you would be wrong again and refuse to see the true proposals because they sit with your Jew Hatred

read the full peace plan here



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Text: Arab peace plan of 2002


1. Requests Israel to reconsider its policies and declare that a just peace is its strategic option as well.
2. Further calls upon Israel to affirm:
a. Full Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied since 1967, including the Syrian Golan Heights to the lines of June 4, 1967 as well as the remaining occupied Lebanese territories in the south of Lebanon.
b. Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian Refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 194.
c. The acceptance of the establishment of a Sovereign Independent Palestinian State on the Palestinian territories occupied since the 4th of June 1967 in the West Bank and Gaza strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
3. Consequently, the Arab Countries affirm the following:
a. Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region.
b. Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace.
4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries.
5. Calls upon the Government of Israel and all Israelis to accept this initiative in order to safeguard the prospects for peace and stop the further shedding of blood, enabling the Arab Countries and Israel to live in peace and good neighborliness and provide future generations with security, stability, and prosperity.
6. Invites the International Community and all countries and Organizations to support this initiative.
7. Requests the Chairman of the Summit to form a special committee composed of some of its concerned member states and the Secretary General of the League of Arab States to pursue the necessary contacts to gain support for this initiative at all levels, particularly from the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the Muslim States and the European Union.





Now we all know that for the occupation to end the Palestinians need to lay down their arms and give up terrorism, violence and belligerence. Just as we all know that the UN resolutions do not say that the Palestinians have the right to return, just that they have the right to apply to return and that all parties to the war in 1947 are equally responsible for payment and reparation to the refugees.

Just two points...

There is no mention of the "destruction of Israel"...

We ALL know that Israel will NEVER end the occupation no matter what the Palestinians do!

Did I say there was, or is this just you putting words in that were never there ?

Or are you getting confused with the palestinian charters that call for the death of all Jews and the destruction of Israel

 

[Penelope]

Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Qur'an) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs. It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend them to be taken in as friends by Muslims. In fact, the Qur'an plainly commands believers not to take unbelievers as friends.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur'an (1:5-7) - "Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger" specifically refers to Jews and "those who go astray" refers to Christians (see Bukhari (12:749)).

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Befriending Christians and Jews


The balestinins can't stop killing and torturing each other, how can they become friends with their enemies?

Really quoting the Quran to justify anything. Seems the Jews had a problem with everyone in the OT and ever since.

 

[Penelope]

Israel will not have peace, they want more land and to do that they need enemies of Syria, Lebanon and well the W. Bank and Gaza.

 

[Hollie]

Israel will not have peace, they want more land and to do that they need enemies of Syria, Lebanon and well the W. Bank and Gaza.

Pointless.

Israel has a demonstrated history of giving up land in exchange for peace.

Your goofy slogans only speak to your profound ignorance about events.

 

[Rehmani]

They could (and WOULD) if the rest of the world would leave them alone to work out their differences.

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

Israeli attitude will destroy Israel, to change their attitude they have to be free from their elders who are using them by their brain wash; please see my signature comments.

 

[Penelope]

Israel will not have peace, they want more land and to do that they need enemies of Syria, Lebanon and well the W. Bank and Gaza.

Pointless.

Israel has a demonstrated history of giving up land in exchange for peace.

Your goofy slogans only speak to your profound ignorance about events.

Israel never had land to give up. Israel never was, till now, you must remember the Egyptian, Persian, Greek, Roman , Ottoman Empires, (read about them)did I leave Jewish empire out , no why? its a new invention , a Zionist invention.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Humanity]

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

I thought it was end the occupation and the right of return?

Then you would be wrong again and refuse to see the true proposals because they sit with your Jew Hatred

read the full peace plan here



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Text: Arab peace plan of 2002


1. Requests Israel to reconsider its policies and declare that a just peace is its strategic option as well.
2. Further calls upon Israel to affirm:
a. Full Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied since 1967, including the Syrian Golan Heights to the lines of June 4, 1967 as well as the remaining occupied Lebanese territories in the south of Lebanon.
b. Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian Refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 194.
c. The acceptance of the establishment of a Sovereign Independent Palestinian State on the Palestinian territories occupied since the 4th of June 1967 in the West Bank and Gaza strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
3. Consequently, the Arab Countries affirm the following:
a. Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region.
b. Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace.
4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries.
5. Calls upon the Government of Israel and all Israelis to accept this initiative in order to safeguard the prospects for peace and stop the further shedding of blood, enabling the Arab Countries and Israel to live in peace and good neighborliness and provide future generations with security, stability, and prosperity.
6. Invites the International Community and all countries and Organizations to support this initiative.
7. Requests the Chairman of the Summit to form a special committee composed of some of its concerned member states and the Secretary General of the League of Arab States to pursue the necessary contacts to gain support for this initiative at all levels, particularly from the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the Muslim States and the European Union.





Now we all know that for the occupation to end the Palestinians need to lay down their arms and give up terrorism, violence and belligerence. Just as we all know that the UN resolutions do not say that the Palestinians have the right to return, just that they have the right to apply to return and that all parties to the war in 1947 are equally responsible for payment and reparation to the refugees.

Just two points...

There is no mention of the "destruction of Israel"...

We ALL know that Israel will NEVER end the occupation no matter what the Palestinians do!

Did I say there was, or is this just you putting words in that were never there ?

Or are you getting confused with the palestinian charters that call for the death of all Jews and the destruction of Israel

You will see that one of your brethren suggested in this very thread that you responded to....

That will never happen. The " Arab Peace Plan" calls for the destruction of Israel

 

[Phoenall]

Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Qur'an) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs. It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend them to be taken in as friends by Muslims. In fact, the Qur'an plainly commands believers not to take unbelievers as friends.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur'an (1:5-7) - "Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger" specifically refers to Jews and "those who go astray" refers to Christians (see Bukhari (12:749)).

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Befriending Christians and Jews


The balestinins can't stop killing and torturing each other, how can they become friends with their enemies?

Really quoting the Quran to justify anything. Seems the Jews had a problem with everyone in the OT and ever since.

Whats wrong pit stop don't like seeing it from the horses mouth that the Palestinians being muslims have it as their religion to kill the Jews. Their own religion justifies their killing, violence and terrorism doesn't it