Can anyone reconcile affirmative action with the 14th amendment?

[ShootSpeeders]

" No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

 

[katsteve2012]

" No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The depth of your ignorance is astounding.

 

[editec]

I too believe that the AA as it was augmented over the years became sexist, racist and classist.

the law didn't have to be that flawed, but by designing it as they did they insured that GOP would gain what was once known as the REAGAN DEMOCRATS votes.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

The depth of your ignorance is astounding.

the board notes you have no argument and so "respond" with personal attacks.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

I too believe that the AA as it was augmented over the years became sexist, racist and classist.

the law didn't have to be that flawed, but by designing it as they did they insured that GOP would gain what was once known as the REAGAN DEMOCRATS votes.

AA is the biggest hate crime in america. There was no way to implement it that would not be racist. Just a terrible idea right from the start.

 

[katsteve2012]

The depth of your ignorance is astounding.

the board notes you have no argument and so "respond" with personal attacks.

If you read the 14th amendment in detail, Affirmative Action(at it's inception) was closely related to the same ideology.

All that you did was copy and paste, and then wrote a stupid subject line, which for the most part, asked anyone here to run interference for your illiteracy while offering no sensible commentary on the history of the amendment, related cases, nor it's relationship to Affirmative Action.

Typical for you.

Dunce.

 

[Defiant1]

It has done far more harm than good. It is the cornerstone for the downgrading of standards in our education system.

It has also provided the framework for lowering the goals and expectations of our entire society.

 

[Friends]

" No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The depth of your ignorance is astounding.

What does the OP not know?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

The depth of your ignorance is astounding.

the board notes you have no argument and so "respond" with personal attacks.

If you read the 14th amendment in detail, Affirmative Action(at it's inception) was closely related to the same ideology.

All that you did was copy and paste, and then wrote a stupid subject line, which for the most part, asked anyone here to run interference for your illiteracy while offering no sensible commentary on the history of the amendment, related cases, nor it's relationship to Affirmative Action.

Typical for you.

Dunce.

More namecalling - that's all you ever have.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

It has done far more harm than good. It is the cornerstone for the downgrading of standards in our education system.

It has also provided the framework for lowering the goals and expectations of our entire society.

Yes, AA is a terrible idea. Not just unconstitutional but also unethical and stupid.

 

[malikc6]

Well you think blacks are mentally inferior so that's why we need it. Us blacks need a chance for something. Otherwise we would all be unemployed and cause even more crime.

This is going by your logic of course.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Well you think blacks are mentally inferior so that's why we need it. Us blacks need a chance for something. Otherwise we would all be unemployed and cause even more crime.

This is going by your logic of course.

You've got it backwards. Because blacks are mentally inferior is why AA must go. You blame black failure on racism but in fact it's due to black inferiority.

 

[malikc6]

Well shooty, you just keep believing that we blacks are mentally inferior all you want. Meanwhile, successful blacks with degrees and good jobs continue to prove you wrong.

I agree with you on one thing though. AA shouldn't exist anymore. Whether if anyone believes that blacks are mentally inferior, intelligence can be enhanced and increased. Whether its studying and stressing the brain, forms of meditation, or some other mental exercise, we live in a day and age were you no longer have to play the victim unless you choose to. Study hard, get a degree, and earn your role due to being more qualified. It's all about competition. Fight to win.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

" No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Your question is backwards, much like the OP.

How can anyone not reconcile affirmative action with the 14th amendment:

Perhaps surprisingly, the one thing missing from today’s oral argument was history. Justices Scalia and Clarence Thomas—both hostile to affirmative action—claim to be constitutional originalists. In other words, they say the Constitution in 2012 should be read to mean precisely what (we presume) the Framers meant in 1787, give or take a few decades.

But the irony is that the authors of the 14th Amendment believed that race-based affirmative action was entirely consistent with that provision. As their rulings on affirmative action show, Scalia and Thomas love history—but only when it suits them.

So how do justices like Scalia and Thomas, who purport to be governed by historical understanding of the Constitution, square these laws with their consistent votes to overturn race-based affirmative action? They don't. Instead, they ignore this history entirely.

In Affirmative-Action Case, History of 14th Amendment Is Inconvenient - The Daily Beast

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Well shooty, you just keep believing that we blacks are mentally inferior all you want. Meanwhile, successful blacks with degrees and good jobs continue to prove you wrong.

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Degrees and jobs obtained via AA.

 

[malikc6]

Not all of them. Not all minorities get jobs because of affirmative action. You WANT that to be the case but its not. Maybe they were just more qualified. It's people like you that think that if a black person got a job that a white person was running for, the black person got the job due to AA. Troll or not, it's time you open your mind and stop being so biased.