Can a person sincerely be a conservative American and also participate in the attacks on Trump?

[Harpy Eagle]

Pornography, prostitution, and drugs aren't "everything." Would you want your kids exposed to those three things?

What I want my kids exposed to is not the same thing as what consenting adults should be allowed to do.

I did not want my kids exposed booze, does that mean we should outlaw that also?

I did not want my kids exposed to half naked people on TV, does that mean we should outlaw that?

 

[pknopp]

Pornography, prostitution, and drugs aren't "everything." Would you want your kids exposed to those three things?

You know what really offended my daughter? (she was 15 at the time). Trump's statement about grabbing them by the......................

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You must have missed the memo, Stinky. If you are a Republican and don't support Trump, you aren't a "conservative." You would be a "RINO".

You missed the memo, if you are a Republican, you aren't a "conservative"

 

[Chillicothe]

On August 8th, the anti-Trumpers revealed themselves as the fascists they are

I presume the poster Flops is referencing the authorized warrant and search of Mar-A-Lago in the government's attempt to find and secure sensitive government documents improperly removed from Washington, and for which the takers refused to return in whole, even in the face of a lawful subpoena.

Well, if our governance demonstrates a sense of responsibility towards protecting the people's property from unauthorized seizure by a fired official.....well, that's a flavor of imagined 'fascism' that can work for true patriotic Americans. IMHO
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but I admire her on the Jan 6th committee.

You know, poster Penelope, I am too.
I liked her moxie and I liked her Sgt. Friday...'Just-the-facts-Ma'am' demeanor. In my view, she was the most effective member of that panel.....as she repeatedly drilled down to the heart of each witnesses' testimony. I hope we see more of her on this J6 panel in September....and before she leaves the House for whatever career she has ahead of her.

ps......speaking of 'moxie', and 'Just-the-facts' in a Congressional hearing.......I was very impressed with Kamala Harris in her questioning of Wm. Barr in his confirmation hearings. She too went right to the heart of each issue with a minimum of grandstanding for TV. I contrasted her efforts to Corey Booker's. Booker was all over the place and full of self-aggrandizing descriptions. Harris was focused like a speeding bullet is focused. Her prosecutor chops showed.
Booker was a speeding pillow.
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after the illogical and preposterous "Russia, Russia" Investigation for two years, in which he was cleared.

Well, no. He was not 'cleared'. After all he was impeached twice with bi-partisan effort. That's hardly being 'cleared'.
He was not convicted due to jury-nullification by a partisan Senate.
The Senate itself separately in Committee, stated that Don Trump benefitted by the illegal help of Russia in the 2016 election.
Not a lot of Democrat 'hoax' in that.
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Liberals believe that the FBI should be above the law, so long as their target is Donald Trump.

Prove that.
Show us some metrics or credible informed sourcing that makes your case on that assertion.
If you cannot do that, Flops, then it is merely an opinion offered anonymously under a fake name on an internet gossipboard.
Count the entire board incredibly impressed with that.

 

[Bobob]

I'm conservative and I vote for democrats. Cheney is a republican and I don't agree with her views, but I admire her on the Jan 6th committee. There are many conservatives that vote for democrats.

Trump Is A Criminal
Posted by
Monya Lyon

Aug 9

 

[JGalt]

What I want my kids exposed to is not the same thing as what consenting adults should be allowed to do.

I did not want my kids exposed booze, does that mean we should outlaw that also?

I did not want my kids exposed to half naked people on TV, does that mean we should outlaw that?

You're confusing libertarianism with conservatism. The two are not the same. Libertarians believe in personal liberty in all matters, including drugs, prostitution, same sex marriage, and pornography.

It's an intellectual version of anarchy.

 

[pknopp]

You're confusing libertarianism with conservatism. The two are not the same. Libertarians believe in personal liberty in all matters, including drugs, prostitution, same sex marriage, and pornography.

It's an intellectual version of anarchy.

And you believe in a nanny state.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You're confusing libertarianism with conservatism. The two are not the same. Libertarians believe in personal liberty in all matters, including drugs, prostitution, same sex marriage, and pornography.

It's an intellectual version of anarchy.

And you're confusing conservatism with authoritarianism, they are not the same. Conservatives believing in personal liberty while authoritarians want the Govt to outlaw everything they claim not to like

 

[Penelope]

No, you cannot attack Trump and call yourself a conservative. The man governed as the most conservative president in the past 100 years. If you oppose his views, you are NOT a conservative. And if you vote Democrat in national elections because you hate Trump, you are essentially a leftwing puke.

Organizationally, the anti-Trumpers are nothing more than leftwing minions. The Lincoln Project which advertised themselves as "conservatives who oppose Trump" revealed their true colors when they opposed the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett for the high court. This had nothing to do with Trump, yet they still opposed this strong conservative woman. Then we come to find out the Lincoln Project is funded by Soros and other leftwing billionaires.

Billionaire Democratic donors give big to anti-Trump Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project, a prominent anti-Trump super PAC run by Republican operatives, is bringing in big money from billionaire Democratic donors.

www.opensecrets.org

I disagree with the language. You mean I have to agree with tramp, I'll never agree with tramp as you said,
No, you cannot attack Trump and call yourself a conservative.

I'm conservative but I vote for democrats.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And you believe in a nanny state.

It is not the nanny state they want, they want to Govt to make anything they do not personally wish to participate in illegal.

 

[JGalt]

You know what really offended my daughter? (she was 15 at the time). Trump's statement about grabbing them by the......................

Trump made that remark on the set of "Days of Our Lives" in 2005. So you're telling me that when she was 10 years old, she heard that?

GTFO.

 

[Penelope]

You're using the term "conservative" rather loosely. Let me define it for you:

Support for Natural Law, unalienable rights, republicanism, and Americanism
Limited government and balanced budgets
Capitalism and free markets
Classroom prayer
Respect for human life and prohibition of abortion
Abstinence education
Traditional marriage, not same-sex "marriage"
The concept of retribution for crimes, including the death penalty for heinous murders proven beyond reasonable doubt
Family values, including traditional relationships and division of labor within the household
Respect for differences between men and women, boys and girls
Laws against pornography
First Amendment rights to free speech and religious freedom
The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms
Economic allocative efficiency (as opposed to popular equity)
Parental control of education (parental rights)
Private medical care and retirement plans
Canceling failed social support programs
Opposition to globalism, one-world government, and the War on Sovereignty
Economic nationalism over globalist "free" trade
Valuing patriotism, self-governance, and sovereignty
Border security and enforcement of strong immigration laws, opposition to mass migration and open borders
Respect for our military, both past and present
Rejection of fake science such as evolution and global warming
Minimal taxation
Federalism (Separation of powers among the National, State and Local governments)
Favoring states' rights over federal power, while accepting the Constitutional role of the federal government, and favoring subsidiarity
Opposition to big government and the Nanny State
A strong national defense
An Originalist and Textualist interpretation of the Constitution, and strongly oppose judicial activism
A dedication to the truth, and an ability to seek it
Ending entitlement programs
Voluntary charity to those in genuine need

Modern-day conservatism also generally believes in these: Pro-sovereignty, pro-parental rights, pro-homeschooling, pro-Christianity in the public square, pro-traditional marriage (opposition to "same-sex" "marriage"), pro-working class, pro-patents, anti-Communist, anti-feminist, anti-judicial supremacy, and anti-illegal immigration

LOL

 

[pknopp]

Trump made that remark on the set of "Days of Our Lives" in 2005. So you're telling me that when she was 10 years old, she heard that?

GTFO.

You know exactly what I said AND you know exactly when she heard it. (she would have been 4 in 2005).

 

[JGalt]

LOL

Check the boxes that offend you, Ms. "Conservative."

 

[JGalt]

You know exactly what I said AND you know exactly when she heard it. (she would have been 4 in 2005).

She did not hear him say that. You're lying.

What she heard was someone else telling her what Trump said.

 

[pknopp]

She did not hear him say that. You're lying.

What she heard was someone else telling her what Trump said.

LOL, just to note, I said she was offended by his statement, not that she heard him say it.

But look at you flailing around.

 

[JGalt]

LOL, just to note, I said she was offended by his statement, not that she heard him say it.

But look at you flailing around.

The only one who's "flailing around" here are those like you, who are desperately trying to prove that Trump is not a conservative.

 

[Care4all]

And

No, you cannot attack Trump and call yourself a conservative. The man governed as the most conservative president in the past 100 years. If you oppose his views, you are NOT a conservative. And if you vote Democrat in national elections because you hate Trump, you are essentially a leftwing puke.

Organizationally, the anti-Trumpers are nothing more than leftwing minions. The Lincoln Project which advertised themselves as "conservatives who oppose Trump" revealed their true colors when they opposed the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett for the high court. This had nothing to do with Trump, yet they still opposed this strong conservative woman. Then we come to find out the Lincoln Project is funded by Soros and other leftwing billionaires.

Billionaire Democratic donors give big to anti-Trump Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project, a prominent anti-Trump super PAC run by Republican operatives, is bringing in big money from billionaire Democratic donors.

www.opensecrets.org

Billionaires donated BIGLY to Trump......so?

I'm sorry, but YOU are a perfect description of the Bible's FALLING AWAY of the Christian Church....

You do not follow Christ's teachings of love, forgiveness, loving your enemy, being faithful, etc...and support an Anti Christ, (multi time adulterer, a perpetual liar whose father is satan, a man of lawlessness, an arrogant, filthy, bold, lover of money, vengeful, unChristlike in every mannor) and you are supporting your Church's false prophets instead of Jesus Christ....and the Bible.

You seem filled with unrighteous anger, and malice towards men....you serve no purpose for God and spreading His love, for all men, all of His creation.

Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe I am not....and God put those words in to my mouth and in to my typing fingers to help you, see the LIGHT and the error of your ways! May your sour, impatient, hardenned heart, be softened! The good Lord, willing!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The only one who's "flailing around" here are those like you, who are desperately trying to prove that Trump is not a conservative.

He is not, even he does not call himself a conservative.

A conservative would not submit the 4 largest budget request in the history of our country.

A conservative would not almost double the deficit in 2 years while his party controls all of Congress.

A conservative would not sign an EO attacking our 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[Lesh]

The Trump cult movement has exposed the “conservative movement” for what it is

Nothing but anti liberal, anti-democrat

That’s what they mean by conservative these days