Can a Catholic Be a Democratic Socialist?

[Devils_Advocate]

Like China? Don't be ridiculous. The US should look at the history of South America and Spain. Smart countries invest in their people.

South America and Spain you say?

You have yet to solve the problem of getting each race to work together, and South America is a fucking joke along with Central America and Mexico, so I like you to point to one beacon of light in those areas you like the U.S. to be like and if you fucking say Venezuela then you have to be kidding!

Also let review Spain history on the World and it brutal genocide of Native People around the World, and tell me are you suggesting to genocide those that will not comply and if so Stalin and Mao would be proud of you!

 

[surada]

The temple was already destroyed in 95 AD when John wrote revelation, he is describing a dream and I always thought John plagiarized Ezekiel

There's ongoing controversy about when revelation was written. All this is first century history. That presents a problem for the futurists who misinterpret Ezekiel and Daniel. They completely skip antiochus iv and the Maccabean revolt.

 

[skews13]

That is a stupid statement.
Its so sad how people like you can see fake news so clearly when it is directed against you, but then are so willing to believe that same fake news when it is aimed at another group.

You can't possibly be as stupid as you come off?

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You do know that you are in a very tiny minority of people right?

 

[surada]

South America and Spain you say?

You have yet to solve the problem of getting each race to work together, and South America is a fucking joke along with Central America and Mexico, so I like you to point to one beacon of light in those areas you like the U.S. to be like and if you ducking say Venezuela then you have to be kidding!

Also let review Spain history on the World and it brutal genocide of Native People around the World, and tell me are you suggesting to genocide those that will not comply and if so Stalin and Mao would be proud of you!

Spain failed hundreds of years ago because they failed to invest in their people. Ultimately they outsourced everything which lead to horrendous inflation and economic collapse.

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

Jesus was the son of God. God is God, man made religion to rule over other men.

You are an idiot. Jesus established His Church. He gave authority to men to govern it. The Book of Acts tells us about Bishops and Deacons and Priests.

And none of that has to do with the topic.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Spain failed hundreds of years ago because they failed to invest in their people. Ultimately they outsourced everything which lead to horrendous inflation and economic collapse.

Again, you will never achieve Norway way of living here in the United States of America because people like you will not want to sacrifice for the right and the right will never sacrifice for the left, and then those like you will want the investment only into certain groups just like the right will want, so you are destined to fail from the start…

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

And now back to the topic at hand, which may have been better titled Can a Christian Be a Democratic Socialist?

In fact, I hope all you so-called conservatives see how your bias was drawn out by this title. If I had called this thread Can a Christian Be a Democratic Socialist you would have gone straight to the issue at hand. But instead it is called Can a Catholic Be a Democratic Socialist, and here came the attacks against the pope. Ah, the bias and hate runs deep

Boy was I right. I hope all you so-called conservatives see how your bias was drawn out by this title. If I had called this thread Can a Christian Be a Democratic Socialist you would have gone straight to the issue at hand. But instead it is called Can a Catholic Be a Democratic Socialist, and here came the attacks against the pope. Ah, the bias and hate runs deep

 

[DBA]

Take this with a grain of salt as I am from the South where Catholism isn’t the primary denomination, but I find that many, not all, Catholics in the US see it almost something they were born into, not something they actually follow or believe. They don’t go to mass and they follow politics first. If the left-wing politics happen to agree with Catholicism, great, but it makes no difference to most of them. Many Catholics come across like many leftist Jewish folks who are quick to claim to be Jewish, but it isn’t about religion at all, but more about race, ethnicity, culture, etc.

Any religious Jewish person or Christian that votes for the Democratic Party, is clearly voting against their best interest if Judaism or Christianity is first and foremost in their lives. It is worth noting that religious Jews are far more conservative than secular ones.

 

[surada]

Again, you will never achieve Norway way of living here in the United States of America because people like you will not want to sacrifice for the right and the right will never sacrifice for the left, and then those like you will want the investment only into certain groups just like the right will want, so you are destined to fail from the start…

You're projecting. We are still a young country.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There's ongoing controversy about when revelation was written. All this is first century history. That presents a problem for the futurists who misinterpret Ezekiel and Daniel. They completely skip antiochus iv and the Maccabean revolt.

that brings up the Maccabes I can never figure out why the protestant bible got rid of it. I was also fascinated by the priest and his sons starting a revolution

 

[Burgermeister]

I know far more than you do

Not even close. I guarantee it. Do some honest research. Maybe read a book.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

You're projecting. We are still a young country.

Hahaha!

I ain’t projecting a damn thing you fucking liar!

United States of America, so understand each State has different ways and is part of this Republic and I know for damn sure you ain’t part of it!

I also know for damn sure those like you will not give up what you have to help a lily white person and that WASP family ain’t going to do for you either, and that is the damn fact!

This Country was built in a way that your Socialism which is just another way of saying Stalin way of governing will never work here!

It is you that is live in a delusional world!

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You are an idiot. Jesus established His Church. He gave authority to men to govern it. The Book of Acts tells us about Bishops and Deacons and Priests.

And none of that has to do with the topic.

So if Jesus established His Church, which church did he establish? Mormon? Budda? Church of Christ? Methodist? Evangelical? Protestant? Or did he establish the Catholic Church which was an idea from Constantine who started it in Turkey?

 

[Hellokitty]

Except Jesus never talked about homosexuality, and abortion is mentioned NOWHERE in the bible. (In fact, the bible doesn't seem to consider even newborns to be people, much less fetuses.)

The teachings of Jesus are downright socialistic. The rich are going to hell, if a man asks for your coat, give him your shirt as well, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

Jesus didn't have to talk about ever type of sin. Marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman, and no sex outside of marriage, pretty much sums up Jesus view on homosexuality.
And socialism doesn't ask, it takes.
Jesus politics were salvation.

 

[22lcidw]

Spain failed hundreds of years ago because they failed to invest in their people. Ultimately they outsourced everything which lead to horrendous inflation and economic collapse.

Spain did not fail for that. They came to the new world and took all of the gold in the areas they explored. They brought it back home and let a lot of it out into the nation. Currency was cheapened. Big time. You heard of pieces of eight and other currency denominations? They are still suffering for that. They were in the competition with Britain as the world power.

 

[Wyatt earp]

So if Jesus established His Church, which church did he establish? Mormon? Budda? Church of Christ? Methodist? Evangelical? Protestant? Or did he establish the Catholic Church which was an idea from Constantine who started it in Turkey

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Peter and Paul established the first churches

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

Not even close. I guarantee it. Do some honest research. Maybe read a book.

I have more books in my Library than you have probably ever seen

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

So if Jesus established His Church, which church did he establish? Mormon? Budda? Church of Christ? Methodist? Evangelical? Protestant?

That stupid question not only indicates your level of ignorance, but it also means that the answer is too far above your comprehension level.

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

So for you dopes who missed the obvious, the question and answer were all in the first post.

Question:
Can a Catholic Be a Democratic Socialist?
or, Can a Christian Be a Democratic Socialist?

Answer: NO

For Catholics, The Catechism of the Catholic Church says, “The Church has rejected the totalitarian and atheistic ideologies associated in modern times with ‘communism’ or ‘socialism’” (2425). This does not mean, however, that Catholics can embrace a kinder, “Christian” socialism in its place. Pope Pius XI famously declared, “Religious socialism, Christian socialism, are contradictory terms; no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist” (Quadragesimo Anno, 120).

For all Christians, Catholic or otherwise: Democrats are the party of Socialism, Sodomy (gay marriage), Infanticide (late term abortion). Those are plain facts. No Christian, be they Catholic or otherwise, can be a democrat.

There, I helped out all the dopes, haters and leftists.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

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Peter and Paul established the first churches

Were they Catholic?