Calling 911 Is a Direct Expression of White Power & Privilege

[Godboy]

Whites have benefitted the most from Affirmative Action. We've been over that.

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

I've said 1000 times in this forum, that AA has oppressed whites for over FIFTY YEARS. And what happened before the AA age, DOES NOT have any effect on the present. Just about zero. Sorry to rain on your parade, Mr History.

It's NOT "something we live in right now" AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS WHAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW. Malicious, Immoral, Racist discrimination favoring blacks, at the the expense of whites, and you support it - more proof of your racism.

No one gives a **** what you say. The facts say different. The unemployment rate is 3.9 percent. For whites it's lower than that. Where is the oppression *****? It doesn't exist.

The past does have an effect on the present and the only reason why you don' t want to discuss it is because it kills your lie. So stop crying about shit that doesn't happen.

There are MANY black people on welfare who dont ever want a job. Quit blaming lazy black culture on white people.

 

[IM2]

No one gives a **** what you say. The facts say different. The unemployment rate is 3.9 percent. For whites it's lower than that. Where is the oppression *****? It doesn't exist.

The past does have an effect on the present and the only reason why you don' t want to discuss it is because it kills your lie. So stop crying about shit that doesn't happen.

But we know ONE PERSON who "gives a ****" what I say >> YOU.

And we know that, because every time I post, you reply to me. You don't say much because frankly, you're not too adept at this forum posting thing, but you sure are paying a lot of attention.

Damn, you get dumber and dumber with every passing post. The black unemployment rate is at an ALL-TIME LOW right now. And if whites are employed more, it's because they're not too lazy to get in the morning and go out and get a job. A REAL job (not pushing, prostituting & pimping)

As for the past & present, you want to talk about the past because that's when blacks had it tough. But now it's the opposite. You get preference in Affirmative Action (since the 1960s). Since then, it's the whites who are the victims.

Babbling about the past of slavery & Jim Crow helps you to avoid the truth about the present and past 50 years. Yu can keep on babbling, but you're nit fooling anybody.

"And if whites are employed more, it's because they're not too lazy to get in the morning and go out and get a job. A REAL job (not pushing, prostituting & pimping)"

And here we have an excellent example your racism.

 

[IM2]

Whites have benefitted the most from Affirmative Action. We've been over that.

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

I've said 1000 times in this forum, that AA has oppressed whites for over FIFTY YEARS. And what happened before the AA age, DOES NOT have any effect on the present. Just about zero. Sorry to rain on your parade, Mr History.

It's NOT "something we live in right now" AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS WHAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW. Malicious, Immoral, Racist discrimination favoring blacks, at the the expense of whites, and you support it - more proof of your racism.

No one gives a **** what you say. The facts say different. The unemployment rate is 3.9 percent. For whites it's lower than that. Where is the oppression *****? It doesn't exist.

The past does have an effect on the present and the only reason why you don' t want to discuss it is because it kills your lie. So stop crying about shit that doesn't happen.

There are MANY black people on welfare who dont ever want a job. Quit blaming lazy black culture on white people.

Did you get past 6th grade?

 

[protectionist]

Nothing you say here is correct.

When you come with a response containing reasons and substance, let us know, OK ?

 

[protectionist]

"And if whites are employed more, it's because they're not too lazy to get in the morning and go out and get a job. A REAL job (not pushing, prostituting & pimping)"

And here we have an excellent example your racism.

Not racism. It is FACT. TRUTH. REALITY.

 

[IM2]

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

It seemed a typical month in the nation's third largest city.

A 15-year-old boy returning home from a elite Chicago prep school suffered a graze wound to the head early last month when a stray bullet pierced the window of a city bus, police said.

An agent with the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was shot in the face while working on a newly created task force combating gun trafficking.

The mother of a 19-year-old college student made an emotional appeal for a citywide ceasefire on Mother's Day weekend after her daughter was shot at a party.

The occasional spasms of violence, though, are not keeping Chicago officials from lauding the 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence in a city frequently targeted by President Donald Trump as a symbol of rampant crime.

"This is a Trump-free zone," Mayor Rahm Emanuel told CNN this week. "We have facts. What matters ... is what happens on the street."

The city has had 52 fewer murders and 229 fewer shootings through the end of May -- a 21% drop in both categories -- compared to the first five months of 2017, according to the Chicago Police Department.

May alone saw a 21% decline in murders compared to last year -- from 58 to 46 -- along with a 5% drop in shooting incidents, police said.

So far this year, Chicago has had 500 fewer shooting victims than the same period in 2016, police said.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

*****, I live on the Southwest side of Chicago

I'm not a racist and I know what I'm talking about

The shit you posted doesn't mean squat...
Ocassional spasms of violence, my ass!

Maybe they'd like to refer to last year's numbers
instead of the 3rd worst year on record

Rahm is running for re-election

Year to Date:
Shot & Killed: 178
Shot & Wounded: 927
Total Shot: 1105
Total Homicides: 213

Gee, thank God the gun violence is declining, huh

So many ******* have killed each other, it only makes sense
that violence, while still high, seems to be declining...
THE THUGS KILL THEMSELVES OFF LEFT AND RIGHT

Things will pick up, as their spawn gets older
Ghetto welfare, thug mentality, baby momma, way of life

Those are the facts!

(Modified banned word edited)

No you are a racist and you don't know shit.



Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests

For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).

In the last 20 years in particular, the FBI reports, rates of crime among African American youth have plummeted: All offenses (down 47%), drug offenses (down 50%), property offenses (down 51%), serious Part I offenses (down 53%), assault (down 59%), robbery (down 60%), all violent offenses (down 60%), rape (down 66%), and murder (down 82%).

For example, FBI clearance and arrest tabulations now indicate black youths under age 18 account for just 2% of the nation’s homicides. See if you can find that vital perspective in any politician, expert, or major-media commentary.

Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

 

[IM2]

Nothing you say here is correct.

When you come with a response containing reasons and substance, let us know, OK ?

That's what YOU need to do.

 

[keepitreal]

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

It seemed a typical month in the nation's third largest city.

A 15-year-old boy returning home from a elite Chicago prep school suffered a graze wound to the head early last month when a stray bullet pierced the window of a city bus, police said.

An agent with the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was shot in the face while working on a newly created task force combating gun trafficking.

The mother of a 19-year-old college student made an emotional appeal for a citywide ceasefire on Mother's Day weekend after her daughter was shot at a party.

The occasional spasms of violence, though, are not keeping Chicago officials from lauding the 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence in a city frequently targeted by President Donald Trump as a symbol of rampant crime.

"This is a Trump-free zone," Mayor Rahm Emanuel told CNN this week. "We have facts. What matters ... is what happens on the street."

The city has had 52 fewer murders and 229 fewer shootings through the end of May -- a 21% drop in both categories -- compared to the first five months of 2017, according to the Chicago Police Department.

May alone saw a 21% decline in murders compared to last year -- from 58 to 46 -- along with a 5% drop in shooting incidents, police said.

So far this year, Chicago has had 500 fewer shooting victims than the same period in 2016, police said.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

*****, I live on the Southwest side of Chicago

I'm not a racist and I know what I'm talking about

The shit you posted doesn't mean squat...
Ocassional spasms of violence, my ass!

Maybe they'd like to refer to last year's numbers
instead of the 3rd worst year on record

Rahm is running for re-election

Year to Date:
Shot & Killed: 178
Shot & Wounded: 927
Total Shot: 1105
Total Homicides: 213

Gee, thank God the gun violence is declining, huh

So many ******* have killed each other, it only makes sense
that violence, while still high, seems to be declining...
THE THUGS KILL THEMSELVES OFF LEFT AND RIGHT

Things will pick up, as their spawn gets older
Ghetto welfare, thug mentality, baby momma, way of life

Those are the facts!

(Modified banned word edited)

No you are a racist and you don't know shit.



Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests

For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).

In the last 20 years in particular, the FBI reports, rates of crime among African American youth have plummeted: All offenses (down 47%), drug offenses (down 50%), property offenses (down 51%), serious Part I offenses (down 53%), assault (down 59%), robbery (down 60%), all violent offenses (down 60%), rape (down 66%), and murder (down 82%).

For example, FBI clearance and arrest tabulations now indicate black youths under age 18 account for just 2% of the nation’s homicides. See if you can find that vital perspective in any politician, expert, or major-media commentary.

Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Omg... really

2013...10-17 yrs old


Raise the age group, jump to 2017 and get back to us!

 

[IM2]

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

It seemed a typical month in the nation's third largest city.

A 15-year-old boy returning home from a elite Chicago prep school suffered a graze wound to the head early last month when a stray bullet pierced the window of a city bus, police said.

An agent with the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was shot in the face while working on a newly created task force combating gun trafficking.

The mother of a 19-year-old college student made an emotional appeal for a citywide ceasefire on Mother's Day weekend after her daughter was shot at a party.

The occasional spasms of violence, though, are not keeping Chicago officials from lauding the 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence in a city frequently targeted by President Donald Trump as a symbol of rampant crime.

"This is a Trump-free zone," Mayor Rahm Emanuel told CNN this week. "We have facts. What matters ... is what happens on the street."

The city has had 52 fewer murders and 229 fewer shootings through the end of May -- a 21% drop in both categories -- compared to the first five months of 2017, according to the Chicago Police Department.

May alone saw a 21% decline in murders compared to last year -- from 58 to 46 -- along with a 5% drop in shooting incidents, police said.

So far this year, Chicago has had 500 fewer shooting victims than the same period in 2016, police said.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

*****, I live on the Southwest side of Chicago

I'm not a racist and I know what I'm talking about

The shit you posted doesn't mean squat...
Ocassional spasms of violence, my ass!

Maybe they'd like to refer to last year's numbers
instead of the 3rd worst year on record

Rahm is running for re-election

Year to Date:
Shot & Killed: 178
Shot & Wounded: 927
Total Shot: 1105
Total Homicides: 213

Gee, thank God the gun violence is declining, huh

So many ******* have killed each other, it only makes sense
that violence, while still high, seems to be declining...
THE THUGS KILL THEMSELVES OFF LEFT AND RIGHT

Things will pick up, as their spawn gets older
Ghetto welfare, thug mentality, baby momma, way of life

Those are the facts!

(Modified banned word edited)

No you are a racist and you don't know shit.



Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests

For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).

In the last 20 years in particular, the FBI reports, rates of crime among African American youth have plummeted: All offenses (down 47%), drug offenses (down 50%), property offenses (down 51%), serious Part I offenses (down 53%), assault (down 59%), robbery (down 60%), all violent offenses (down 60%), rape (down 66%), and murder (down 82%).

For example, FBI clearance and arrest tabulations now indicate black youths under age 18 account for just 2% of the nation’s homicides. See if you can find that vital perspective in any politician, expert, or major-media commentary.

Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Omg... really

2013...10-17 yrs old


Raise the age group, jump to 2017 and get back to us!

I cited Chicago 2018. Th UCR for 2017 hasn't been published but in 2016 whites over 18 lead the country in arrests for violent crime and property crime.

2016 Crime Statistics Released — FBI

Persons Arrested

Face the truth thats how you keep it real. You keep fake news.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

When you can get a post right, instead of the downpour of errors you just posted, come back and try again. I'm not going to correct all the mistakes of your wild and irresponsible mess that you call posting. That's for you to do.

On April 8th you posted the following comment to the Affirmative action, helpful or harmful thread

In the end, all my college time and work was for naught. I never got hired to any job that required a college (even bachelor) degree. I had only 3 interviews in 32 years, and the most money I ever made was about $11/hour (in 2018 dollars)

This doesn't' make sense. What you learn in college shouldn't be for naught and will I understand obtaining one's degree is the goal and not achieving it hurts (i left college before I got my degree but eventually went back and completed) but your whole life should then end up with you only being able to earn minimum wage.

Our experiences are so different I can't even wrap my mind around this. I thought you said you ended up working in the computer industry. No one works for minimum wage in IT unless they are just entering the industry and even then they don't stay at minimum wage for long.

Why ? Because despite being a minority race, I steadfastly refused to lower myself to the level of the lowlifes who accept AA. I wouldn't be caught dead engaging in the DISGRACE of filling out an AA questionnaire.

So are you white or not because you said "despite being a minority race"? The rest of your comment is just sad if that's how you genuinely feel about your fellow citizens. And just an FYI, the reason they ask those question is not so they can identify & then hire minorities, it's so that the program can report back to their funding agency how many people they have served by race, gender, ethnic background, etc. so that they continue to be appropriated more budget money. There are a lot more things going on behind the scenes than you are aware of and believe me more of it has to do with money and keeping it flowing [in] that actual racial preferences.

As for you calling me a racist, that gives you another job to do here. Come up with one shred of evidence to back up that assinine claim.

Another poster here once made the comment to another poster than he believed him to be moreso ignorant than a racist. Although a lot of people believe the word Ignorance to be derogatory term, it simply means being unaware of something or not being knowledgeable of a particular topic. The thing is Ignorance can be cured with factual information so when people who might seem at first blush to be racist are presented with factual information (not opinion) and they then continue to make racists comments it may be inferred that they are indeed racist.

You and the others here have been presented with a plethora of factual information yet you continue to attack the messengers even taking things further and referring to us as racists simply because we keep presenting factual information in an attempt to counter the misconceptions, lies, etc. being spread about black people in general and us specifically.

You stated this

20. Black jury members have the right to acquit criminals, if they're black.

This process is called jury nullification and originated in the south by whites. I have no knowledge of it being employed in any significant way by blacks

In 1955, two white men went on trial in Mississippi for the murder of Emmett Till, a black 14-year-old from Chicago who supposedly had been too friendly to a white woman. In the Jim Crow South, there was never much chance of conviction, and they were acquitted by a jury that deliberated for barely an hour. The two men, free of the danger of prosecution, later acknowledged their guilt. That case and many like it are worth keeping in mind in any consideration of the place of jury nullification in the criminal justice system.

Let there be no mistake about it, racist juries routinely failed to deliver justice in the Jim Crow South. And jury injustice sometimes happens today when, for example, juries acquit police caught on video brutalizing defenseless citizens.​

 

[keepitreal]

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

It seemed a typical month in the nation's third largest city.

A 15-year-old boy returning home from a elite Chicago prep school suffered a graze wound to the head early last month when a stray bullet pierced the window of a city bus, police said.

An agent with the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was shot in the face while working on a newly created task force combating gun trafficking.

The mother of a 19-year-old college student made an emotional appeal for a citywide ceasefire on Mother's Day weekend after her daughter was shot at a party.

The occasional spasms of violence, though, are not keeping Chicago officials from lauding the 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence in a city frequently targeted by President Donald Trump as a symbol of rampant crime.

"This is a Trump-free zone," Mayor Rahm Emanuel told CNN this week. "We have facts. What matters ... is what happens on the street."

The city has had 52 fewer murders and 229 fewer shootings through the end of May -- a 21% drop in both categories -- compared to the first five months of 2017, according to the Chicago Police Department.

May alone saw a 21% decline in murders compared to last year -- from 58 to 46 -- along with a 5% drop in shooting incidents, police said.

So far this year, Chicago has had 500 fewer shooting victims than the same period in 2016, police said.

Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence

The standard white racist argument always uses Chicago. But that's generally an argument that has no facts.

*****, I live on the Southwest side of Chicago

I'm not a racist and I know what I'm talking about

The shit you posted doesn't mean squat...
Ocassional spasms of violence, my ass!

Maybe they'd like to refer to last year's numbers
instead of the 3rd worst year on record

Rahm is running for re-election

Year to Date:
Shot & Killed: 178
Shot & Wounded: 927
Total Shot: 1105
Total Homicides: 213

Gee, thank God the gun violence is declining, huh

So many ******* have killed each other, it only makes sense
that violence, while still high, seems to be declining...
THE THUGS KILL THEMSELVES OFF LEFT AND RIGHT

Things will pick up, as their spawn gets older
Ghetto welfare, thug mentality, baby momma, way of life

Those are the facts!

(Modified banned word edited)

No you are a racist and you don't know shit.



Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests

For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).

In the last 20 years in particular, the FBI reports, rates of crime among African American youth have plummeted: All offenses (down 47%), drug offenses (down 50%), property offenses (down 51%), serious Part I offenses (down 53%), assault (down 59%), robbery (down 60%), all violent offenses (down 60%), rape (down 66%), and murder (down 82%).

For example, FBI clearance and arrest tabulations now indicate black youths under age 18 account for just 2% of the nation’s homicides. See if you can find that vital perspective in any politician, expert, or major-media commentary.

Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Omg... really

2013...10-17 yrs old


Raise the age group, jump to 2017 and get back to us!

I cited Chicago 2018. Th UCR for 2017 hasn't been published but in 2016 whites over 18 lead the country in arrests for violent crime and property crime.

2016 Crime Statistics Released — FBI

Persons Arrested

Face the truth thats how you keep it real. You keep fake news.

Oye vay...you keep it real

First off, get your links in order

Secondly...

in 2016 whites over 18 lead the country in arrests for violent crime and property crime

This has already been addressed

Those numbers represent the total population

But, when you consider that blacks
only make up 12-14% of the population,
compared to 62-77% of the population being white
(depending on Hispanic/non Hispanic white figures)

The picture changes drastically, doesn't it

200-250 million whites
Vs. 30-32 million blacks

White men account for 69% of violent crime

Do the math, by race alone

Nice try, better luck next time

 

[protectionist]

On April 8th you posted the following comment to the Affirmative action, helpful or harmful thread
This doesn't' make sense. What you learn in college shouldn't be for naught and will I understand obtaining one's degree is the goal and not achieving it hurts (i left college before I got my degree but eventually went back and completed) but your whole life should then end up with you only being able to earn minimum wage.

Our experiences are so different I can't even wrap my mind around this. I thought you said you ended up working in the computer industry. No one works for minimum wage in IT unless they are just entering the industry and even then they don't stay at minimum wage for long.

So are you white or not because you said "despite being a minority race"? The rest of your comment is just sad if that's how you genuinely feel about your fellow citizens. And just an FYI, the reason they ask those question is not so they can identify & then hire minorities, it's so that the program can report back to their funding agency how many people they have served by race, gender, ethnic background, etc. so that they continue to be appropriated more budget money. There are a lot more things going on behind the scenes than you are aware of and believe me more of it has to do with money and keeping it flowing [in] that actual racial preferences.
​

Another poster here once made the comment to another poster than he believed him to be moreso ignorant than a racist. Although a lot of people believe the word Ignorance to be derogatory term, it simply means being unaware of something or not being knowledgeable of a particular topic. The thing is Ignorance can be cured with factual information so when people who might seem at first blush to be racist are presented with factual information (not opinion) and they then continue to make racists comments it may be inferred that they are indeed racist.

You and the others here have been presented with a plethora of factual information yet you continue to attack the messengers even taking things further and referring to us as racists simply because we keep presenting factual information in an attempt to counter the misconceptions, lies, etc. being spread about black people in general and us specifically.

This process is called jury nullification and originated in the south by whites. I have no knowledge of it being employed in any significant way by blacks

In 1955, two white men went on trial in Mississippi for the murder of Emmett Till, a black 14-year-old from Chicago who supposedly had been too friendly to a white woman. In the Jim Crow South, there was never much chance of conviction, and they were acquitted by a jury that deliberated for barely an hour. The two men, free of the danger of prosecution, later acknowledged their guilt. That case and many like it are worth keeping in mind in any consideration of the place of jury nullification in the criminal justice system.

Let there be no mistake about it, racist juries routinely failed to deliver justice in the Jim Crow South. And jury injustice sometimes happens today when, for example, juries acquit police caught on video brutalizing defenseless citizens.​

I haven't seen ANY information from you, or Mr. white-hater, to add to my bank of knowledge. I've told both of you that the only racial discrimination of any significant magnitude, over the past 50 years is Affirmative Action discrimination against whites (and sometimes other races too), with blacks being the beneficiaries.

As beneficiaries of this social disease, you have no complaints. Only thing for you all to do is apologize and pay remittances$$$$$$$$$ to the whites you have caused hardship to, by pushing and supporting Affirmative Action.

I don't know why you have a problem with what I said previously. Everything I said is 100% true & accurate, I stand behind it 100%, and I say it again right now. What cant you understand ? I (et al) was forced to drop out of graduate school, because of the denial of financial aid (which was only given to blacks) - racial discrimination, pure & simple.

Why are you talking about minimum wage ? You yourself posted that I said I made $11/hour. That (in the 1980s) is a lot more than MW (which was $3.35/hour back then) And the only reason I made more money, was because, after leaving college, I took a vocational course (mechanical trades) to qualify for better jobs (in the computer industry)

LOL. Pathetic how you fall for the dumbest line in America>> that AA questionnaire is just for statistics. EARTH TO NVM: AA is to give PREFERENCE to blacks over all other races. The statistics line is a laughable red herring, designed to ward off criticism of AA discrimination. You're the first person I've heard actually believe it, and repeat it, since 1988.

Juries acquit police because those police shot people in SELF-DEFENSE, because those fools didn't keep their HANDS VISIBLE & EMPTY. Dumbass liberal teachers, clueless about guns and law enforcement, don't teach kids how to act with police. That's why these guys are getting shot. Oh, so they're "unarmed" are they ? Well how the hell is the cop supposed to know that, when the suspect guy's hands disappear from view ?

You know how long it take to whip a gun out of a pocket or a car window, and fire it ? About a 1/2 second. Cop has a right to defend him/herself. You let your hands disappear to a cop pointing gun at you, and you are going to be shot, and probably die, as cops are rightfully trained to aim for center mass of the body (heart and lungs)

Also, there is no such thing as "unarmed". Guys who have been shot by cops and referred to as "unarmed" by the media, have been found carrying ballpoint pens, golf balls, wearing belts, and standing next to golf ball size rocks on the ground (all DEADLY weapons).

PS - this post I'm responding to, was the worst mess I've ever seen. Questions and quotes were mixed up all over the place. You need to learn how to sort out your stuff, so we don't have to do it for you, in order to respond to you.

 

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Oye vay...you keep it real

First off, get your links in order

Secondly...

in 2016 whites over 18 lead the country in arrests for violent crime and property crime

This has already been addressed

Those numbers represent the total population

But, when you consider that blacks
only make up 12-14% of the population,
compared to 62-77% of the population being white
(depending on Hispanic/non Hispanic white figures)

The picture changes drastically, doesn't it

200-250 million whites
Vs. 30-32 million blacks

White men account for 69% of violent crime

Do the math, by race alone

Nice try, better luck next time

Nothing dumber than a black person talking about racial disparities regarding violent crime. Blacks, by far, commit more violent crimes per capita, than any other race. All these guys do is call attention to that.

 

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That's what YOU need to do.

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In the last 20 years in particular, the FBI reports, rates of crime among African American youth have plummeted:

The term use of the term "African-American" to describe blacks, is incorrect. There is nothing "African" about blacks born and raised in America.

The correct word is "blacks"

 

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Actually, NONE of those 76 people killed by police were "Unarmed". There is only one true case of "Unarmed". >>> the fetuses in the womb.

 

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