California would ban boys and girls sections at big retailers under proposed law

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I'm not aware of any online retailers that separate toys by gender. Toys are usually just listed in a "toys" section of the site, or they're separated by age, manufacturer or theme/type/genre (board games, video games, etc). For that matter, I'm not aware of any big box stores that label toys by gender either. Take Target or Walmart, for instance. They have toy aisles that are stocked by age group. Most kids toys are already unisex, and while certain toys that are traditionally girls toys are grouped somewhat together (dolls, barbies, princess), the aisle or section is not labeled girl or boy. This is just one more example of busybody lawmakers creating legislation to "fix" a problem that doesn't exist.
I thought maybe it's just because I don't live in a cosmopolitan area, but I was thinking the same thing. I don't actually ever seeing signs for girls and boys except clothing.
the actual bill: Bill Text - AB-1084 Gender neutral retail departments.

Because signage is not necessary - the isles are clearly separated. At my Walmart the boys items sit on a blue shelf and the girls on pink shelves. But the point of the law is not eliminating signage - that is not seeing the forest for the trees. You even admit that clothing is clearly marked so the signs do, indeed, exist. Focusing on the existence of signs is nothing more than trying to ignore the elephant in the room.

We all agree that major department stores (and most small ones as well) separate girl and boy cloths, toys and other items by sex. That is simply a hard fact. If anyone wants to pretend otherwise than a conversation is irrelevant, they live in a fantasy land that even large doses of psilocybin will not get us to. For the rest of us, it is clear that this bill is intended to end that practice as much as humanly possible.

The very idea that we need to restructure basic things like shopping that clearly makes the process worse for 99% of people in a failed attempt to make <1% of the population feel more comfortable is beyond asinine in the extreme. It is clearly mental. That a law making body thinks that this is in any shape or form a good idea or even a political bone to throw to people that have never complained about the layout of stores is an indication that the government is not only to fucking large and invasive but that it is fundamentally broken.
I agree it's a stupid law, and considering that it is copying changes Target made five years ago, I don't think it's going to affect things as much as you think.
Except it is not since the changes that target made to virtue signal did not include things like cloths and, further, what a store decides to do does not resemble in any way what a law does. You can chose to simply not shop there as I basically have done with my local target because it is a pain in the ass to find something that I actually want to buy. Removing categories directly makes that worse.

I do not see a massive effect here and never stated that I did. What I do see is a broken system trying to virtue signal to people that do not really care and getting into our lives ever more deeply because of it. It is a fatal creep and it is getting to the point of true asshattery. Even most of the left recognizes the idiocy here yet they do nothing to stop or change it.
 

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I'm not aware of any online retailers that separate toys by gender. Toys are usually just listed in a "toys" section of the site, or they're separated by age, manufacturer or theme/type/genre (board games, video games, etc). For that matter, I'm not aware of any big box stores that label toys by gender either. Take Target or Walmart, for instance. They have toy aisles that are stocked by age group. Most kids toys are already unisex, and while certain toys that are traditionally girls toys are grouped somewhat together (dolls, barbies, princess), the aisle or section is not labeled girl or boy. This is just one more example of busybody lawmakers creating legislation to "fix" a problem that doesn't exist.
I thought maybe it's just because I don't live in a cosmopolitan area, but I was thinking the same thing. I don't actually ever seeing signs for girls and boys except clothing.
the actual bill: Bill Text - AB-1084 Gender neutral retail departments.

Because signage is not necessary - the isles are clearly separated. At my Walmart the boys items sit on a blue shelf and the girls on pink shelves. But the point of the law is not eliminating signage - that is not seeing the forest for the trees. You even admit that clothing is clearly marked so the signs do, indeed, exist. Focusing on the existence of signs is nothing more than trying to ignore the elephant in the room.

We all agree that major department stores (and most small ones as well) separate girl and boy cloths, toys and other items by sex. That is simply a hard fact. If anyone wants to pretend otherwise than a conversation is irrelevant, they live in a fantasy land that even large doses of psilocybin will not get us to. For the rest of us, it is clear that this bill is intended to end that practice as much as humanly possible.

The very idea that we need to restructure basic things like shopping that clearly makes the process worse for 99% of people in a failed attempt to make <1% of the population feel more comfortable is beyond asinine in the extreme. It is clearly mental. That a law making body thinks that this is in any shape or form a good idea or even a political bone to throw to people that have never complained about the layout of stores is an indication that the government is not only to fucking large and invasive but that it is fundamentally broken.
I agree it's a stupid law, and considering that it is copying changes Target made five years ago, I don't think it's going to affect things as much as you think.
Except it is not since the changes that target made to virtue signal did not include things like cloths and, further, what a store decides to do does not resemble in any way what a law does. You can chose to simply not shop there as I basically have done with my local target because it is a pain in the ass to find something that I actually want to buy. Removing categories directly makes that worse.

I do not see a massive effect here and never stated that I did. What I do see is a broken system trying to virtue signal to people that do not really care and getting into our lives ever more deeply because of it. It is a fatal creep and it is getting to the point of true asshattery. Even most of the left recognizes the idiocy here yet they do nothing to stop or change it.
Well, since I don't live in California, no, there's nothing I can do to stop it. But Californians have always been strange, FAQ2; I sort of shine 'em on. They march to their own weird drum out there.
 

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