California politicians say you can't have guns, cops say you are on your own...nice...

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Here we have the classic example of why we don't trust gun grabbers. The politicians in California are slowly constricting the right to keep and bear arms for self defense, taking all they can get when they can get it.....and then the police in L.A. tell the citizens....you are probably on your own in an emergency situation....

Yeah.....anyone living in that state deserves what they get for voting the way they vote...

Only On 2: LAPD Officers Say More Patrol Needed In Times Of Emergency

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Officers with the LAPD tell CBS2 that in the event of an emergency, you might have a long wait.

It’s a story that is Only On 2.

CBS2’s Randy Paige reports that many officers believe there aren’t enough of them to go around — especially in an emergency.

“The citizens need to know they need to be able to protect themselves because if they call 911, we can’t guarantee we’re going to get there in time to help you,” says Police Protective League President Jamie McBride.

He told Paige that Thursday morning between 5:30 and 10 a.m., there were just three patrol cars assigned to the West LA division. Two cars to protect more than 200,000 people in a 65 square mile radius.

“West Los Angeles, at the minimum, should have seven patrol units, two-man units working,” McBride said.


Yeah......but you can't use a gun........that would just be crazy...
 
Here we have the classic example of why we don't trust gun grabbers. The politicians in California are slowly constricting the right to keep and bear arms for self defense, taking all they can get when they can get it.....and then the police in L.A. tell the citizens....you are probably on your own in an emergency situation....

Yeah.....anyone living in that state deserves what they get for voting the way they vote...

Only On 2: LAPD Officers Say More Patrol Needed In Times Of Emergency

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Officers with the LAPD tell CBS2 that in the event of an emergency, you might have a long wait.

It’s a story that is Only On 2.

CBS2’s Randy Paige reports that many officers believe there aren’t enough of them to go around — especially in an emergency.

“The citizens need to know they need to be able to protect themselves because if they call 911, we can’t guarantee we’re going to get there in time to help you,” says Police Protective League President Jamie McBride.

He told Paige that Thursday morning between 5:30 and 10 a.m., there were just three patrol cars assigned to the West LA division. Two cars to protect more than 200,000 people in a 65 square mile radius.

“West Los Angeles, at the minimum, should have seven patrol units, two-man units working,” McBride said.


Yeah......but you can't use a gun........that would just be crazy...
Seven units is still WAY to thin. When I was commissioner of the city of Algona Wa. We ran TWO units for two thousand people and if there was a major accident we called Auburn or Pacific to back us up.
 
I'm told all those illegals are law abiding people just wanting a better life.....2 seems plenty....better to have huge welfare roles than huge police shooting everyone for no reason.........
 
Holy shit!!!! 2 units for 200,000 people in LA???

The unofficial standard is typically 1 cop per 1000-1500 people. The city I live in has 80,000 and 150 officers....and about 12 on duty per shift. Charleston has 450 officers for 130,000 (mass tourist area...more like 200k) and probably 40 on duty per shift.

2!!!!????

Of course....we're non union and cops here start between 38k-43k....not great but not bad either. So for every 1 cop a unionized liberal government can have....we can have 3.

Nice job libs.
 
Flint has lead poisining in the water, L.A. will soon have lead filling the air.....
 
And here are the first signs of the coming tide...

Overall Crime Rate Increases in Los Angeles for First Time Since 2003

After 12 straight years of declining crime in Los Angeles, the city experienced an uptick in criminal acts in the first part of 2015, the mayor and police chief announced Wednesday.

Violent and property crimes — known as Part I crimes — were up 12.7 percent for the first half of 2015 compared to the same time in 2014. Violent crimes alone were up 20.6 percent.
 
North Charleston is a very high crime area probably more in line with LA crime. They are a city of 100k. They have 400 cops and probably 30-40 on duty at a time.
 
Why aren't there more cops?


About what you would expect...

Los Angeles Police Department Doesn't Have Enough Qualified Recruits

Fewer people are applying to join the LAPD and, of those who do, a significantly higher number of them are being disqualified from consideration. Officials say budget cuts have slashed the advertising used to draw recruits while other departments are luring top talent with higher salaries than the LAPD offers.

Since the decline began several months ago, the LAPD is down more than 100 officers. The department needs to hire about 350 officers a year to make up for normal attrition, and officials say they could remain understaffed for years if the current trend holds. Earlier this year, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Chief Charlie Beck celebrated the 10,000-officer milestone, a target the city has sought to attain since the L.A. riots in 1992.

"Our entire plan is getting screwed up.... We don't see an end to it," said LAPD Asst. Chief Sandy Jo MacArthur, who oversees recruitment and training for the department. "It is a very big red flag for us. Once you start losing ground, it is so hard to climb back."

The attrition means fewer police officers available for patrol duty and other functions, officials say.

Also, the number of women and blacks -- and especially black women -- making it into the training academy has dropped considerably. That leaves the department far short of diversity goals in recent academy classes; the goals were put in place decades ago to counter discriminatory hiring practices. None of the 30 rookies who recently graduated from the academy, for example, were black and only five were women.

Officials pointed to several other factors they said are contributing to the shortage.

To start, not enough people want to join the LAPD. The department needs about 865 people each month to begin the lengthy application process to become a cop -- a large crop that inevitably gets whittled down as people drop out or are disqualified. Currently, the LAPD is getting between 600 and 700 new applicants, said John Dunlop, chief of the personnel department's backgrounds division. The LAPD is facing tougher competition from other law enforcement agencies for top candidates.

Although the LAPD has the advantage of a strong reputation, some other agencies pay significantly higher starting salaries, Dunlop and MacArthur said. The base starting pay for an LAPD recruit is $48,462.

Budget cuts also have forced the personnel department to do away with nearly all of the billboard advertisements and commercials on radio and television stations that it used to rely on to spread the word that the LAPD was hiring, said Bruce Whidden, a spokesman for the personnel department. Also gone are $1,000 recruitment incentives the office used to pay to current officers and others whenever someone they convinced to apply completed the academy.
 
Holy shit!!!! 2 units for 200,000 people in LA???

The unofficial standard is typically 1 cop per 1000-1500 people. The city I live in has 80,000 and 150 officers....and about 12 on duty per shift. Charleston has 450 officers for 130,000 (mass tourist area...more like 200k) and probably 40 on duty per shift.

2!!!!????

Of course....we're non union and cops here start between 38k-43k....not great but not bad either. So for every 1 cop a unionized liberal government can have....we can have 3.

Nice job libs.
Love to see the stat on the number of known criminals in LA compared to two units. Its not even enough to cover 911 calls let alone pick up warrants.
 
Why aren't there more cops?


About what you would expect...

Los Angeles Police Department Doesn't Have Enough Qualified Recruits

Fewer people are applying to join the LAPD and, of those who do, a significantly higher number of them are being disqualified from consideration. Officials say budget cuts have slashed the advertising used to draw recruits while other departments are luring top talent with higher salaries than the LAPD offers.

Since the decline began several months ago, the LAPD is down more than 100 officers. The department needs to hire about 350 officers a year to make up for normal attrition, and officials say they could remain understaffed for years if the current trend holds. Earlier this year, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Chief Charlie Beck celebrated the 10,000-officer milestone, a target the city has sought to attain since the L.A. riots in 1992.

"Our entire plan is getting screwed up.... We don't see an end to it," said LAPD Asst. Chief Sandy Jo MacArthur, who oversees recruitment and training for the department. "It is a very big red flag for us. Once you start losing ground, it is so hard to climb back."

The attrition means fewer police officers available for patrol duty and other functions, officials say.

Also, the number of women and blacks -- and especially black women -- making it into the training academy has dropped considerably. That leaves the department far short of diversity goals in recent academy classes; the goals were put in place decades ago to counter discriminatory hiring practices. None of the 30 rookies who recently graduated from the academy, for example, were black and only five were women.

Officials pointed to several other factors they said are contributing to the shortage.

To start, not enough people want to join the LAPD. The department needs about 865 people each month to begin the lengthy application process to become a cop -- a large crop that inevitably gets whittled down as people drop out or are disqualified. Currently, the LAPD is getting between 600 and 700 new applicants, said John Dunlop, chief of the personnel department's backgrounds division. The LAPD is facing tougher competition from other law enforcement agencies for top candidates.

Although the LAPD has the advantage of a strong reputation, some other agencies pay significantly higher starting salaries, Dunlop and MacArthur said. The base starting pay for an LAPD recruit is $48,462.

Budget cuts also have forced the personnel department to do away with nearly all of the billboard advertisements and commercials on radio and television stations that it used to rely on to spread the word that the LAPD was hiring, said Bruce Whidden, a spokesman for the personnel department. Also gone are $1,000 recruitment incentives the office used to pay to current officers and others whenever someone they convinced to apply completed the academy.


So your link says it all comes down to less pay. You can't expect to get quality recruits at near minimum wage pay.
 
Why aren't there more cops?


About what you would expect...

Los Angeles Police Department Doesn't Have Enough Qualified Recruits

Fewer people are applying to join the LAPD and, of those who do, a significantly higher number of them are being disqualified from consideration. Officials say budget cuts have slashed the advertising used to draw recruits while other departments are luring top talent with higher salaries than the LAPD offers.

Since the decline began several months ago, the LAPD is down more than 100 officers. The department needs to hire about 350 officers a year to make up for normal attrition, and officials say they could remain understaffed for years if the current trend holds. Earlier this year, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Chief Charlie Beck celebrated the 10,000-officer milestone, a target the city has sought to attain since the L.A. riots in 1992.

"Our entire plan is getting screwed up.... We don't see an end to it," said LAPD Asst. Chief Sandy Jo MacArthur, who oversees recruitment and training for the department. "It is a very big red flag for us. Once you start losing ground, it is so hard to climb back."

The attrition means fewer police officers available for patrol duty and other functions, officials say.

Also, the number of women and blacks -- and especially black women -- making it into the training academy has dropped considerably. That leaves the department far short of diversity goals in recent academy classes; the goals were put in place decades ago to counter discriminatory hiring practices. None of the 30 rookies who recently graduated from the academy, for example, were black and only five were women.

Officials pointed to several other factors they said are contributing to the shortage.

To start, not enough people want to join the LAPD. The department needs about 865 people each month to begin the lengthy application process to become a cop -- a large crop that inevitably gets whittled down as people drop out or are disqualified. Currently, the LAPD is getting between 600 and 700 new applicants, said John Dunlop, chief of the personnel department's backgrounds division. The LAPD is facing tougher competition from other law enforcement agencies for top candidates.

Although the LAPD has the advantage of a strong reputation, some other agencies pay significantly higher starting salaries, Dunlop and MacArthur said. The base starting pay for an LAPD recruit is $48,462.

Budget cuts also have forced the personnel department to do away with nearly all of the billboard advertisements and commercials on radio and television stations that it used to rely on to spread the word that the LAPD was hiring, said Bruce Whidden, a spokesman for the personnel department. Also gone are $1,000 recruitment incentives the office used to pay to current officers and others whenever someone they convinced to apply completed the academy.


So your link says it all comes down to less pay. You can't expect to get quality recruits at near minimum wage pay.

Let me guess...more taxes?
 
I would bet police recruiting is down all across the country since the war police started........
 
Why aren't there more cops?


About what you would expect...

Los Angeles Police Department Doesn't Have Enough Qualified Recruits

Fewer people are applying to join the LAPD and, of those who do, a significantly higher number of them are being disqualified from consideration. Officials say budget cuts have slashed the advertising used to draw recruits while other departments are luring top talent with higher salaries than the LAPD offers.

Since the decline began several months ago, the LAPD is down more than 100 officers. The department needs to hire about 350 officers a year to make up for normal attrition, and officials say they could remain understaffed for years if the current trend holds. Earlier this year, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Chief Charlie Beck celebrated the 10,000-officer milestone, a target the city has sought to attain since the L.A. riots in 1992.

"Our entire plan is getting screwed up.... We don't see an end to it," said LAPD Asst. Chief Sandy Jo MacArthur, who oversees recruitment and training for the department. "It is a very big red flag for us. Once you start losing ground, it is so hard to climb back."

The attrition means fewer police officers available for patrol duty and other functions, officials say.

Also, the number of women and blacks -- and especially black women -- making it into the training academy has dropped considerably. That leaves the department far short of diversity goals in recent academy classes; the goals were put in place decades ago to counter discriminatory hiring practices. None of the 30 rookies who recently graduated from the academy, for example, were black and only five were women.

Officials pointed to several other factors they said are contributing to the shortage.

To start, not enough people want to join the LAPD. The department needs about 865 people each month to begin the lengthy application process to become a cop -- a large crop that inevitably gets whittled down as people drop out or are disqualified. Currently, the LAPD is getting between 600 and 700 new applicants, said John Dunlop, chief of the personnel department's backgrounds division. The LAPD is facing tougher competition from other law enforcement agencies for top candidates.

Although the LAPD has the advantage of a strong reputation, some other agencies pay significantly higher starting salaries, Dunlop and MacArthur said. The base starting pay for an LAPD recruit is $48,462.

Budget cuts also have forced the personnel department to do away with nearly all of the billboard advertisements and commercials on radio and television stations that it used to rely on to spread the word that the LAPD was hiring, said Bruce Whidden, a spokesman for the personnel department. Also gone are $1,000 recruitment incentives the office used to pay to current officers and others whenever someone they convinced to apply completed the academy.


So your link says it all comes down to less pay. You can't expect to get quality recruits at near minimum wage pay.


No, you can't...that is why you pay cops more and spend less on vanity projects for the politicians....since dead citizens are more important than potted plants....something Chicago has never learned....
 
Post-Ferguson, the New York Police Department, the country’s biggest police force, says applications are down 18%. LAPD saw a 16% drop in applications since 2013. In Philadelphia, where police have had a decadeslong problem of trying to attract new hires, police recruit numbers dropped 47% in 2014 from 2008. Even the small police force in Leesburg, Virginia, says while it hasn’t seen a drop in applications, far fewer qualified candidates are applying, affecting their ability to hire good cops. Why black woman is joining Los Angeles Police Dept. - CNN.com
 
Post-Ferguson, the New York Police Department, the country’s biggest police force, says applications are down 18%. LAPD saw a 16% drop in applications since 2013. In Philadelphia, where police have had a decadeslong problem of trying to attract new hires, police recruit numbers dropped 47% in 2014 from 2008. Even the small police force in Leesburg, Virginia, says while it hasn’t seen a drop in applications, far fewer qualified candidates are applying, affecting their ability to hire good cops. Why black woman is joining Los Angeles Police Dept. - CNN.com

Hell, I wouldn't want to be a cop now days, either.

The politicians make the law, the cop enforces the law, then the politician tries to put the cop in jail. Fuck that shit!
 
"California politicians say you can't have guns, cops say you are on your own...nice.."
Those are idiots over there...
:lmao:
 
Okay this is actual footage of city of Algona PD backed up by the city of Pacific during a night time criminal hunt. Notice the number of cops on the ground PLUS an infrared camera in the air.

They JUST had enough to catch him. Two units for 200k is suicide for the cop AND the citizen.
 

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