California measure fails to create green jobs

[skookerasbil]

Again.............understanding what has gone on in Germany and what is going on now in Germany is instructional. They were all in on renewables until costs made their economy non-competitive. Result? Huge move back to coal and natural gas in the last 2 years!!!!!!!!!!


Germany s Expensive Gamble on Renewable Energy - WSJ

 

[skookerasbil]

Coal Mining Stocks Companies Prices and News

Top Decliners
Exchange Symbol Chart Cur Price
chg|%

Arch Coal
NYSE
ACI
USD
1.26
-4.55

Westmoreland Resource Partners
NYSE
WMLP
USD
7.85
-3.33

SunCoke Energy
NYSE
SXC
USD
11.13
-2.80

Natural Resource Partners
NYSE
NRP
USD
2.80
-2.78

Sasol
JSE
SOL
ZAR
413.93
-2.69

The decline is in progress.

My God man..................


China's coal mining will increase by 50% by 2040!!!!

China s Growing Coal Use Is World s Growing Problem Climate Central



decline???

 

[Old Rocks]

Surprising Countries Where Solar and Wind Are Booming

A good source that puts a lie to the idea that Europe is abandoning renewables.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Coal Mining Stocks Companies Prices and News

Top Decliners
Exchange Symbol Chart Cur Price
chg|%

Arch Coal
NYSE
ACI
USD
1.26
-4.55

Westmoreland Resource Partners
NYSE
WMLP
USD
7.85
-3.33

SunCoke Energy
NYSE
SXC
USD
11.13
-2.80

Natural Resource Partners
NYSE
NRP
USD
2.80
-2.78

Sasol
JSE
SOL
ZAR
413.93
-2.69

The decline is in progress.

My God man..................


China's coal mining will increase by 50% by 2040!!!!

China s Growing Coal Use Is World s Growing Problem Climate Central



decline???

And this is why china's emissions didn't go up enough last year to push global emissions up for the first time in decades! And this is why China built 3 times as much solar and wind then America!!! A loser??? I don't think so.

 

[skookerasbil]

Surprising Countries Where Solar and Wind Are Booming

A good source that puts a lie to the idea that Europe is abandoning renewables.

C'mon with the semantics fuckery.....such a common progressive tactic these days!!! Nobody said "abandon renewables"..........but if they don't do an about face a couple of years ago and go big on coal and natural gas imports, their economy goes belly up!!! Unmitigated fact. When industry cant compete due to rising energy costs, you do an about face on the whole idealistic approach.........that what governments do.

Germany turns back to fossil fuel plants Marketplace.org

The Breakthrough Institute - Germany Returns to Coal

Germany Energy Changes and Coal Use The Energy Collective

Germany to Add Most Coal-Fired Plants in Two Decades IWR Says - Bloomberg Business


Germany s impractical dream - News - The Ecologist

 

[jc456]

http://awea.files.cms-plus.com/FileDownloads/pdfs/Oregon.pdf

Jobs & Economic
An investment in wind power is an investment in jobs, including jobs in operations and maintenance, construction, manufacturing and many support sectors. In addition, wind projects produce lease payments for landowners and increase the tax base of communities.
• 2014 direct and indirect jobs supported:
1,001 to 2,000
• Total capital investment: $6.2 billion
• Annual land lease payments: $9.5 million
Wind-Related Manufacturing
The United States has over 500 manufacturing facilities producing products for the wind industry
that range from blade, tower and turbine nacelle assembly facilities to raw component suppliers,
including fiberglass and steel.
• Number of active manufacturing facilities in
the state: 10
Wind Projects
• Installed wind capacity: 3,153 MW
• State rank for installed wind capacity: 6th
• Number of wind turbines: 1,837
• State rank for number of wind turbines: 7th
• Wind projects online: 26
• Wind capacity under construction: 50 MW
Current Wind Generation
In 2014, wind energy provided 12.69% of all in-state electricity production.
• Equivalent number of homes powered by wind: 695,000
Wind Generation Potential
With current technology, wind power is capable of meeting 176 percent of the state’s
current electricity needs.
• Land based wind potential at 80 meters (m) hub height: 27,100 MW (source:
National Renewable Energy Laboratory)

Silly ass, the renewables are now cheaper than dirty coal, both solar and wind. And the coal fired plants are being shut down even as more and more renewables are coming online. Austin, Texas, is installing a 1.2 Gw solar installation as we post.

meh


Ray......thats like spiking the football for getting out of your own end zone with a 1 yard running play!!!

Renewables are still a joke. Will be for decades too. Solar is still but 2/10ths of 1% of meeting our electricity needs!! Wind just a little more than that. Those are the facts.

Look......the global warming alarmists oversimplify this to the level of absurd. They conveniently ignore the surcharges placed upon renewable power companies that are of course passed on to the consumer. They conveniently ignore the tremendous costs of transmitting energy from grids over long distances. They conveniently ignore the huge outcry and litigation proceedings from communities that are saying and going to say fuck you to a 230 foot tower in their backyard. They also don't understand markets.....progressives never do.........that lead to rising costs due to growing lack of competition. Well......it matters in the real world because consumers don't like leaders who fuck over their wallet and invite job losses......they get their asses voted out due to the fuckery.

To have a better understanding of the renewable energy dynamic, one must see the carnage that has evolved in Germany in the last several years as green energy goals have turned disasterous. Companies that had moved to Germany a decade or more ago are moving BACK to the US because they are getting slaughtered with high energy costs.


Germany s Expensive Gamble on Renewable Energy - WSJ


Lastly......and here is the slam dunk.........if renewables were such a no-brainer, how come Wall Street has not interest in the last few years??


Solar is having a great year except on Wall Street Reuters



Don't be bamboozled by the oversimplification nonsense the alarmists are expert in dishing out.....


Every single energy projection out to 2050 has renewables around 10%-11% with coal, oil and natural gas dominating.

whatever happened to poster ty? Germany still using coal correct?

 

[jc456]

Surprising Countries Where Solar and Wind Are Booming

A good source that puts a lie to the idea that Europe is abandoning renewables.

are they abandoning coal?

 

[mamooth]

In Germany, coal giant RWE (Rheinisch-Westfälischen Elektrizitätswerk) recently downsized.

RWE baut um - Wirtschaft - S ddeutsche.de

Don't read German? Try Google translate.

The summary is that the German coal companies see how there's no long term future in coal, so they're moving out of that market and into renewables. Their bottom line is taking a big hit now. That's impacting the budgets of German cities in the Ruhr, which were heavily invested in coal stocks.

 

[skookerasbil]

In Germany, coal giant RWE (Rheinisch-Westfälischen Elektrizitätswerk) recently downsized.

RWE baut um - Wirtschaft - S ddeutsche.de

Don't read German? Try Google translate.

The summary is that the German coal companies see how there's no long term future in coal, so they're moving out of that market and into renewables. Their bottom line is taking a big hit now. That's impacting the budgets of German cities in the Ruhr, which were heavily invested in coal stocks.

The phony progressives......typical phony semantics like "downsized". One will note in the posts of the AGW k00ks, constant use of terms like "increased"......."deceased".........."lower"..........."some"..........."more"......."big"..............

ghey..............such faggoty-ass levels of bogus.

HERE is the short term future of coal in Germany........over the next 5 years, over 20 new coal fired plants >>>

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[mamooth]

So skook, exactly how much cash did you lose betting on coal? You never told us.

 

[skookerasbil]

Can lock this thread......once the knoby cucumber is displayed, sufficient levels of pwning the k00ks has been obtained.. In other words, the debate is over s0ns!!!

 

[mamooth]

Okay, so skook has lost a great deal of money, and doesn't want to talk about it.

We warned you, skook. Why didn't you listen?