California getting crushed in high-speed rail race

[freedombecki]

We are going to pack citizens into small apartments close to work just like China to reduce energy wasted transporting people back & forth to work, school & shopping. Currently even if Chinese workers took home the same pay as we do, they would still save $4,000.00 a year on fuel over US workers. They live near work making them far more efficient than US.

In this photo provided by the New York Mayor's office, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, center, stands with Amanda Burden, left, Department of City Planning Director, and Commissioner Mathew Wambua, Department of Housing Preservation and Development, in the kitchenette area of a full-scale mockup of a 300 square foot apartment.

NYC Planners Turning Toward Tiny, ‘Micro-Unit’ Dwellings (Bonus: 1-Square-Meter House)

Now, New York City planners are more formally catching onto the trend, thinking studio apartments measuring no more than 300 square feet might be attractive to a growing population of singles and two-person households.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Monday invited developers to propose ways to turn a Manhattan lot into an apartment building filled mostly with what officials are calling “micro-units” — dwellings complete with a bathroom, built-in kitchenette and enough space for a careful planner to use a fold-out bed as both sleeping space and living room.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okqa7qdAPbo"]One SQ Meter Home[/ame]

Of course, the quality of life is complete shit, but what do they care?

And leftists often complain of overcrowding animals and livestock, but in humans? meh. fuck em.

They're copying Eastern Europe. We visited coastal cities in eight countries along the Baltic Sea one year, and were shown dwellings smaller than that were built and inhabited by city dwellers since the 16th century. The idea looked like misery to me, too. Maybe it will bolster the restaurant industry, though, in NYC with fewer foreign visitors visiting America due to oil prices.

 

[FireFly]

Stockton, California declared bankruptcy today becoming the largest U.S. city ever to file for bankruptcy & dumb-ass democrats think they have money to throw away on trains from last century.

Stockton is in the Central Valley. When the Court shut off the water to the Central Valley farms, Stockton has no more reason to exist.

It ain't just Stockton or just the water shut off area.

San Bernardino is the third California city to file bankruptcy in less than a month.

The entire state of California will soon go bankrupt due to the costs of Illegal Immigrants & solar power. Now the idiots want to add trains to their financial burden.

 

[freedombecki]

Stockton, California declared bankruptcy today becoming the largest U.S. city ever to file for bankruptcy & dumb-ass democrats think they have money to throw away on trains from last century.

Stockton is in the Central Valley. When the Court shut off the water to the Central Valley farms, Stockton has no more reason to exist.

It ain't just Stockton or just the water shut off area.

San Bernardino is the third California city to file bankruptcy in less than a month.

The entire state of California will soon go bankrupt due to the costs of Illegal Immigrants & solar power. Now the idiots want to add trains to their financial burden.

With one minor detail: they want the rest of the US to pay for it, the US who said it would support border states' issues, but cannot afford to either.

The psychology of fully supporting deadweights should have been calculated into the equation by those so willing to part with other people's money to pay for non-citizens' emergency, medical, prescriptions, legal, incarceration, educational, emotional, nutritional, clothing, electricity, sanitation, communication devices, maternal, safety, security, retirement, and now drugs, smokes and contraception; and the hostility it would elicit by those who are not reimbursed by society, but have to work for it plus provide for some asshole politician's twenty-two million foreign guests so they will vote for and re-elect him over traditional citizens' protests of his.

I keep hearing foreigners mouth the phrase, "stupid Americans," even after we help their citizens and bankrupt border states in doing so.

Very few in the Democratic aisle are bothering to listen to taxpayers they've come to use as their modus operandi for a wealthy future for themselves and only the people they know will vote for them in their push to get rid of inconvenient government devices such as the Bill of Rights freedom our republic started out observing as mankind's inalienable rights.

By the same token, Republicans have doubled down to the business of being more conservative and conscientious about not passing spendthrift measures that will indenture the next generation with out-of-control interest to pay. Unfortunately, it is so easy to belittle people who faithfully do the hard work of supporting all those in society who aren't able to do for themselves due to youth, old age, or disability, and it pays so well, some politicians are simply using taxpayers as cash cows for their pet rock projects that assure re-election and even more spending.

We've become a society that has traded in free enterprise and its entrepreneurs for the ball-and-chain deal of promoting never-satisfied parasites because we tolerated damning the givers to bless the takers.

 

[Trajan]

not to be outdone..

 

[Political Junky]

not to be outdone..

Makes sense for densely populated, high rent places like NYC and SF.
How did this get diverted from high-speed rail?

 

[Big Fitz]

High speed rail is a cornerstone of smart growth inhumane desires to make everyone live in sardines while making the world off limits. It's the goal of control freaks.

 

[Political Junky]

California high-speed rail is signed into law by Gov. Jerry Brown - Los Angeles Political Buzz | Examiner.com

Governor Jerry Brown on Wednesday signed the bill passed by legislators to build a high-speed rail traveling from San Francisco to Los Angeles. It was only fitting for him to sign the bill in both cities who will benefit from the rail. The high-speed rail will cut traveling time between the two cities by 40%; it’ll take three hours via the rail. Other routes such as Sacramento, San Diego and other routes between will be eliminated. The cost for the high-speed rail has tripled since the original budget was released. If the high-speed rail is considered a success in the future, the state could reconsider the Sacramento and San Diego routes.

This is a great step in the right direction not only for the state of California, but for the nation. Many developed countries are investing in high-speed rail as a sign to prove to the world how advanced they’re. The lead country in high-speed railing is China. With a population of 1.4 billion, high-speed rail could boost the middle-class and help create more middle-class families. China is well ahead of the game; the USA is just starting to build.
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[ScienceRocks]

Unless it is like the ones in Japan or china. Well, it is a waste of money. If it doesn't go at least 150 mph and can compete with the plane for less money it will go no where.

5 New Super Trains on Fast Track to World's Fastest Bullet - Popular Mechanics

 

[ScienceRocks]

Make one like this that goes between LA to San fransico at 400 mph. Then maybe it will compete with the airplane. THE AIRPLANE is what must be beaten to be economical.

5. California-Nevada Maglev
Top Speed /// 311 mph | Distance /// 268 miles
Technology /// magnetic levitation

The Plan /// Many proponents of maglev technology think that the best chance of constructing a futuristic, 300-mph-plus train would be to build it mostly across flat desert land. The topography would make it relatively easy to construct and wouldn't require raised rails or expensive tunnels. It would also be easier to gain rights of way across the desert where there is likely to be little community protest. And there's the tantalizing possibility of tapping into solar or wind farms for the system's electrical needs, thus making it a zero-carbon-footprint mode of transportation. What better place to build such a train than between southern California and Nevada? The California-Nevada maglev proposal is supported by a long list of tech companies and others under the aegis of the American Magline Group. The last federal transportation bill earmarked $45 million to do a preliminary study and work on the project, including an environmental impact assessment in the desert.

The initial stage of the line, however, would run between two Los Angeles suburbs from Ontario, Calif., to Orange County for commuters. Eventually the line would continue, stretching all the way to Las Vegas. The consortium claims the system could be built within five years, but that assumes the federal money is there to support it. So far, the Federal Railway Administration has argued against the project, recommending instead that the money go to shoring up existing railways. Moreover, there are several other maglev proposals competing for Federal dollars, including a proposed line in the Baltimore-Washington corridor, an Atlanta to Chattanooga route, and a maglev project for Pittsburgh's international airport.

 

[Meister]

Just glad that I no longer live in Ca. I'd be pissed if I was, now I just can sit back and laugh at the stupidity of the state government and "Moonbeam".

 

[Political Junky]

Florida Governor Rick Scott refused money for a high speed train, because it would aid Florida's economy .. good republican.
God forbid the economy should improve while Obama in in office.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Florida Governor Rick Scott refused money for a high speed train, because it would aid Florida's economy .. good republican.
God forbid the economy should improve while Obama in in office.

Can a bullet train compete with the plane? I thought our cities were too far apart to be economical within the United states.

 

[Political Junky]

Florida Governor Rick Scott refused money for a high speed train, because it would aid Florida's economy .. good republican.
God forbid the economy should improve while Obama in in office.

Can a bullet train compete with the plane? I thought our cities were too far apart to be economical within the United states.

They do compete with planes in Europe and Asia.

 

[flacaltenn]

Florida Governor Rick Scott refused money for a high speed train, because it would aid Florida's economy .. good republican.
God forbid the economy should improve while Obama in in office.

What he did is refuse to spend Floridian money on a financial disaster. It's called good governance.. He's smart enough to know that the Feds won't be around when the program hits the dozens of overruns and budget busters that would be inevitable.

Florida does not have a commute corridor. (except maybe Melbourne to Orlando and that's only 60 miles.) And the tourist industry doesn't want folks on high speed trains. They want them stopping at all the Stuckeys, and the kids screaming to stop at Gator Jungle on the way to Disney..

Seems the governor might know a little more about Florida's economy than a free-spending partisian than you..

 

[ScienceRocks]

It wouldn't be economical, but it sure would be cool if California built a bullet train from LA to San fransico that went 500 mph. Maybe have it loop and go to the capital on its way back.

We would only be doing it to show that we're better than China...But isn't that enough? We did it against the USSR. Call it the freedom bullet train just to spit at them.

 

[Political Junky]

Texas and California's Contrasting High-Speed Rail Attempts

 

[driveby]

Who do liberals love these faggot fucking trains so much?......

 

[mamooth]

I"ve never heard of a "faggot fucking train" before. Is it some kind of a train-based gay outing thing?

Given how familiar driveby seems with the concept, perhaps he can explain it to us.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I"ve never heard of a "faggot fucking train" before. Is it some kind of a train-based gay outing thing?

Given how familiar driveby seems with the concept, perhaps he can explain it to us.

It's the train that has stops at the ends of rainbows and Hersey Pa.

 

[driveby]

I"ve never heard of a "faggot fucking train" before. Is it some kind of a train-based gay outing thing?

Given how familiar driveby seems with the concept, perhaps he can explain it to us.

The concept you aren't familiar with is how to make a witty comeback.....