CA to Begin Charging for Electricity Based Upon Customers’ Incomes Rather than Usage

Lord Long Rod

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Are we really surprised? It is the same old shit. Common sense tells us one thing, the left vehemently gaslights and denigrates opposition, then later on it turns out that common sense was 100% correct. This is happening over and over and over. Will we EVER garner the confidence and wherewithal to stand up to the left, notwithstanding all of the monstrous allegations they make against us, and just say NO?

 
Are we really surprised? It is the same old shit. Common sense tells us one thing, the left vehemently gaslights and denigrates opposition, then later on it turns out that common sense was 100% correct. This is happening over and over and over. Will we EVER garner the confidence and wherewithal to stand up to the left, notwithstanding all of the monstrous allegations they make against us, and just say NO?

Hmmm..let's unpack this a bit, shall we? This was required by State. An income based usage fee and a reduced per K/w cost. Not Marxism, BTW. Nor Communism. There's a Socialist element to it..but, so what? Poor folks will be able to keep the light on..oh my God Mabel, Clutch the Pearls!



Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.
Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric filed a joint proposal this week for a flat-rate charge based on income.
The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption.
Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year.
While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use.
The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities.

The California Public Utilities Commission would have to approve the proposal and make a final decision by mid-2024. The fixed rate could start showing up on bills as soon as 2025.
 
Interestingly, everybody's electric bill is drastically decreasing, even for the wealthy, and I'm curious as to how these utilities will have the money to continue providing the service unless they're receiving some serious state subsidies in return.
Last month I received an SCE credit. I used 40% less electricity than 100 of the most efficient neighbors.
If this does go into effect in 2025, I'll pay more than I do now.
 
Hmmm..let's unpack this a bit, shall we? This was required by State. An income b based and a reduced per K/w cost. Not Marxism, BTW. Nor Communism. There's a Socialist element to it..but, so what? Poor folks will be able to keep the light on..oh my God Mabel, Clutch the Pearls!



Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.
Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric filed a joint proposal this week for a flat-rate charge based on income.
The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption.
Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year.
While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use.
The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities.

The California Public Utilities Commission would have to approve the proposal and make a final decision by mid-2024. The fixed rate could start showing up on bills as soon as 2025.
“…There’s a socialist element to it. BUT SO WHAT? (emphasis added). Let’s unpack this a little. You attempt to justify that this as something other than what it is portrayed to be in the article, then essentially say even if the article is right, so what. It’s like you started to argue one way, realized that your argument is full of shit, grew lazy, and then just conceded.

So… Thanks, I guess.
 
“…There’s a socialist element to it. BUT SO WHAT? (emphasis added). Let’s unpack this a little. You attempt to justify that this as something other than what it is portrayed to be in the article, then essentially say even if the article is right, so what. It’s like you started to argue one way, realized that your argument is full of shit, grew lazy, and then just conceded.

So… Thanks, I guess.
Naw..your problem is that you give the term 'Socialist' waaaaay more emotional loading than I do. I did not..and do not..say your OP is right..for it is not. Not even close. It is, in fact, remarkably information free--were it not for the original story link..I'd have had a hard time sussing out the facts.

This is not some sort of 'going full commie'..no matter how shrill your voice gets~
 
Hmmm..let's unpack this a bit, shall we? This was required by State. An income based usage fee and a reduced per K/w cost. Not Marxism, BTW. Nor Communism. There's a Socialist element to it..but, so what? Poor folks will be able to keep the light on..oh my God Mabel, Clutch the Pearls!



Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.
Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric filed a joint proposal this week for a flat-rate charge based on income.
The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption.
Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year.
While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use.
The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities.

The California Public Utilities Commission would have to approve the proposal and make a final decision by mid-2024. The fixed rate could start showing up on bills as soon as 2025.
Now for Sempra Energy (gas co) to do the same.
 
If the California utility companies are going to make people who have more money pay more for the same goods and services they could get for less money if they had less, there will be several results: wealthier people will seek to hide their wealth through various means, so as to pay the lower rate. Some enterprising entrepreneurs will make a good living by helping them do this. So from the Marxism of the utility companies will come more capitalism.
Also, people will see that there is no point in working harder to try to earn more money, as the state will just confiscate it in various ways. Consequently, people will work less, and less hard. The standard of living will decline, because productivity will have declined. This is why Communist countries have always been economic failures: they block the capitalist incentive that people have to work hard, and thus destroy the only path to prosperity.

California Goes Full Communist: Utilities to Base What They Charge on How Much You Make
 

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