CA to Begin Charging for Electricity Based Upon Customers’ Incomes Rather than Usage

[Lord Long Rod]

Are we really surprised? It is the same old shit. Common sense tells us one thing, the left vehemently gaslights and denigrates opposition, then later on it turns out that common sense was 100% correct. This is happening over and over and over. Will we EVER garner the confidence and wherewithal to stand up to the left, notwithstanding all of the monstrous allegations they make against us, and just say NO?

California Goes Full Communist: Utilities to Base What They Charge on How Much You Make

The state of California is implementing full Marxism before our very eyes under the guise of “equity

pjmedia.com

 

[Moonglow]

I like that idea.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Interestingly, everybody's electric bill is drastically decreasing, even for the wealthy, and I'm curious as to how these utilities will have the money to continue providing the service unless they're receiving some serious state subsidies in return.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs"
Marx is alive & well in CA

 

[1srelluc]

I read about that a bit ago, it would seem to me your fixed rate should be based on your average kilowatt per hour usage, not your income......Oh well, a U-Haul out of CA just went up another $100.00.

 

[Thunk]

Democrats just wont learn will they?

 

[Lord Long Rod]

I like that idea.

You would.

 

[okfine]

I like that idea.

Now all can leave on their lights and every appliance 24/7 for peanuts.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Are we really surprised? It is the same old shit. Common sense tells us one thing, the left vehemently gaslights and denigrates opposition, then later on it turns out that common sense was 100% correct. This is happening over and over and over. Will we EVER garner the confidence and wherewithal to stand up to the left, notwithstanding all of the monstrous allegations they make against us, and just say NO?

California Goes Full Communist: Utilities to Base What They Charge on How Much You Make

The state of California is implementing full Marxism before our very eyes under the guise of “equity

pjmedia.com

Hmmm..let's unpack this a bit, shall we? This was required by State. An income based usage fee and a reduced per K/w cost. Not Marxism, BTW. Nor Communism. There's a Socialist element to it..but, so what? Poor folks will be able to keep the light on..oh my God Mabel, Clutch the Pearls!

California utility companies propose charging customers based on how much money they make

Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.

abc7.com

Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.
Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric filed a joint proposal this week for a flat-rate charge based on income.
The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption.
Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year.
While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use.
The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities.
The California Public Utilities Commission would have to approve the proposal and make a final decision by mid-2024. The fixed rate could start showing up on bills as soon as 2025.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs"
Marx is alive & well in CA

..and what, Pray tell...has that to do with a sliding scale based on income..for electricity?

 

[okfine]

Interestingly, everybody's electric bill is drastically decreasing, even for the wealthy, and I'm curious as to how these utilities will have the money to continue providing the service unless they're receiving some serious state subsidies in return.

Last month I received an SCE credit. I used 40% less electricity than 100 of the most efficient neighbors.
If this does go into effect in 2025, I'll pay more than I do now.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

Hmmm..let's unpack this a bit, shall we? This was required by State. An income b based and a reduced per K/w cost. Not Marxism, BTW. Nor Communism. There's a Socialist element to it..but, so what? Poor folks will be able to keep the light on..oh my God Mabel, Clutch the Pearls!

California utility companies propose charging customers based on how much money they make

Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.

abc7.com

Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.
Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric filed a joint proposal this week for a flat-rate charge based on income.
The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption.
Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year.
While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use.
The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities.
The California Public Utilities Commission would have to approve the proposal and make a final decision by mid-2024. The fixed rate could start showing up on bills as soon as 2025.

“…There’s a socialist element to it. BUT SO WHAT? (emphasis added). Let’s unpack this a little. You attempt to justify that this as something other than what it is portrayed to be in the article, then essentially say even if the article is right, so what. It’s like you started to argue one way, realized that your argument is full of shit, grew lazy, and then just conceded.

So… Thanks, I guess.

 

[leftwinger]

It was already happening based on zip codes? Peak tier times cost more in wealthy zips. Hillsides etc.

Now it sounds like they are going to get more official about it.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

..and what, Pray tell...has that with a sliding scale based on income..for

Now all can leave on their lights and every appliance 24/7 for peanuts.

Well sure, until the summer.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

“…There’s a socialist element to it. BUT SO WHAT? (emphasis added). Let’s unpack this a little. You attempt to justify that this as something other than what it is portrayed to be in the article, then essentially say even if the article is right, so what. It’s like you started to argue one way, realized that your argument is full of shit, grew lazy, and then just conceded.

So… Thanks, I guess.

Naw..your problem is that you give the term 'Socialist' waaaaay more emotional loading than I do. I did not..and do not..say your OP is right..for it is not. Not even close. It is, in fact, remarkably information free--were it not for the original story link..I'd have had a hard time sussing out the facts.

This is not some sort of 'going full commie'..no matter how shrill your voice gets~

 

[Orangecat]

I like that idea.

So do other marxists and their in-denial useful idiots.

 

[okfine]

Hmmm..let's unpack this a bit, shall we? This was required by State. An income based usage fee and a reduced per K/w cost. Not Marxism, BTW. Nor Communism. There's a Socialist element to it..but, so what? Poor folks will be able to keep the light on..oh my God Mabel, Clutch the Pearls!

California utility companies propose charging customers based on how much money they make

Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.

abc7.com

Three major utility companies in California are looking to restructure customer billing, and part of that means customers could be charged based on how much money they make.
Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric filed a joint proposal this week for a flat-rate charge based on income.
The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption.
Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year.
While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use.
The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities.
The California Public Utilities Commission would have to approve the proposal and make a final decision by mid-2024. The fixed rate could start showing up on bills as soon as 2025.

Now for Sempra Energy (gas co) to do the same.

 

[Orangecat]

If the California utility companies are going to make people who have more money pay more for the same goods and services they could get for less money if they had less, there will be several results: wealthier people will seek to hide their wealth through various means, so as to pay the lower rate. Some enterprising entrepreneurs will make a good living by helping them do this. So from the Marxism of the utility companies will come more capitalism.
Also, people will see that there is no point in working harder to try to earn more money, as the state will just confiscate it in various ways. Consequently, people will work less, and less hard. The standard of living will decline, because productivity will have declined. This is why Communist countries have always been economic failures: they block the capitalist incentive that people have to work hard, and thus destroy the only path to prosperity.

California Goes Full Communist: Utilities to Base What They Charge on How Much You Make

 

[Moonglow]

It was already happening based on zip codes? Peak tier times cost more in wealthy zips. Hillsides etc.

Now it sounds like they are going to get more official about it.

Shhh, don't tell them they think everyone pays the same.....

 

[Moonglow]

So do other marxists and their in-denial useful idiots.

I bet you say that to all those assholes who don't charge the same across the nation.