Byebye USA

[ekrem]

Ankara. Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari offered to Turkey to replace US troops in Iraq by sending Turkish, Interfax reports, citing a publication by the Turkish Hurriyet.
According to the information the proposal was made by Jaafari to the Turkish Prime Minister Reccep Tayip Erdogan during the Iraqi Prime Minister’s visit to Ankara on Tuesday.
According to the publication Jaafari has said: “The USA failed. USA cannot establish peace in Iraq. Only Turkey could do this.”

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=127&newsid=83781&ch=0


And here in Turkish:
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/4016416.asp?gid=69


After Jafari was in Turkey, now Sunnite Leaders Tarik el Hasimi and Salih Mutlak will come to Turkey, after they have been in December already here.

But the surprisingly visit of all is Muktada Al-Sadr, who will officially get a audience with Turkish Prime Minister.

 

[5stringJeff]

We have always welcomed the assistance of other nations. And if Iraq thinks they can defend their country with Turkish troops instead of American troops, that's fine.

 

[Mr. P]

We have always welcomed the assistance of other nations. And if Iraq thinks they can defend their country with Turkish troops instead of American troops, that's fine.

Works for me, "TurkIraqistan"...Nice ring..

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Ankara. Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari offered to Turkey to replace US troops in Iraq by sending Turkish, Interfax reports, citing a publication by the Turkish Hurriyet.
According to the information the proposal was made by Jaafari to the Turkish Prime Minister Reccep Tayip Erdogan during the Iraqi Prime Minister’s visit to Ankara on Tuesday.
According to the publication Jaafari has said: “The USA failed. USA cannot establish peace in Iraq. Only Turkey could do this.”

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=127&newsid=83781&ch=0


And here in Turkish:
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/4016416.asp?gid=69


After Jafari was in Turkey, now Sunnite Leaders Tarik el Hasimi and Salih Mutlak will come to Turkey, after they have been in December already here.

But the surprisingly visit of all is Muktada Al-Sadr, who will officially get a audience with Turkish Prime Minister.

Would turks side with sunnis or shias? I wonder if they would just help in the annihiliation of one or the other. That's not good.

 

[ekrem]

We have always welcomed the assistance of other nations. And if Iraq thinks they can defend their country with Turkish troops instead of American troops, that's fine.

What Jafari is meaning here, is not assistance to US troops. But replacing USA.
“The USA failed. USA cannot establish peace in Iraq. Only Turkey could do this.”

Jafaris visit to Turkey was very chaotic. Iraqi President, Talabani, who counfounds his office with that off a Kurd view from Kurd-Prisma.

While Jafari arrived in Turkey, Talabani wrote on the "Iraqi president website" that all agreements Jafari reaches in Turkey are not valid for Iraq. WTF?
Talabani should reconsider his duty and how it is being managed.

He has no right to say such things. Jafari said in Ankara, that he doesn'rt cares what Talabani said, his visit was legal.

So what is this? Nobody is saying anything either when Talabani visits his buddies in Iran:

The picture shows a quiet confiding scenery, or not?

Now i can understand why Talabani said such things, Jafari inviting Turks to replace USA.
Doesn't meet Kurds interests they prefer disaccord between Sunnites and Shias. While Turkey prefers unity to avoid Iraq exploding and fall apart.


Jafari is Prime minister and Kurds trying to plot against him, push that Shias revoke Jafari as Prime minister. With such scenery, Talabani showed that he understands his office as Iraq Prime minister not that for all Iraqis, but for Kurdish interests.

Jafari is Shia, but he is not that pro-Iran.
USA and also Iran prefered other candidate. But Muktada Al-Sadr, who is Shia, but is Iraqi Nationalist boxed Jafari through to meet Irqai intersts and not US and Iran interests with becoming their candidate prime minister.

Also when Shia mosque exploded days ago, Al-Sadr said unity between Sunnites and Shia is needed. He gave even his Shia militias advice to protect Sunnite mosques.
This is good actions by him, preaching unity and not dis-unity. Therefore he will come to Turkey. Sunnite leaders who will also come to Turkey will be said the same by Turkey: Don't let yourself be provocated, it's time for unity.

Iraq's geographic integrity must be saved, when this can only be achieved by "USA out, Turkey in", then let it be so.

Talabani must be paranoic, and if i were in his position with such a background information i would also panic.

 

[ekrem]

Jafaris reply to Talabani who said, that agreements made by Iraqi prime minister in Turkey are not valid:

Before leaving al-Jaafari offered his assessment on President Jalal Talabani's strong reaction to the official visit, calling his Turkey visit "legal". "It does not interest me what the other side thinks," he added.
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&trh=20060303&hn=30378

Time plays now to our Turkish hands.
But don't be afraid USA. Like your leaders say: "US-Turkish relations are multi-facet. From Europe to Central asia. One contrarian interest field will not damage our relations (IRAQ)."

When USA is leaving Iraq and Turkey wins foot by foot, while USA looses foot by foot, with backing by Iraqi groups (Shia+Sunnites).
Scenery will change after some time. When Turkey implements its agenda contraria to USA. Don't forget and remember this:

"US-Turkish relations are multi-facet. From Europe to Central asia. One contrarian interest field will not damage our relations."

It is like a glass mirror. Viva Turkish-Us relations.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

If you look closely, you can see tongue.

 

[theHawk]

Works for me, "TurkIraqistan"...Nice ring..

I think its pronounced "Turaqistan"


:

 

[theHawk]

Ankara. Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari offered to Turkey to replace US troops in Iraq by sending Turkish, Interfax reports, citing a publication by the Turkish Hurriyet.
According to the information the proposal was made by Jaafari to the Turkish Prime Minister Reccep Tayip Erdogan during the Iraqi Prime Minister’s visit to Ankara on Tuesday.
According to the publication Jaafari has said: “The USA failed. USA cannot establish peace in Iraq. Only Turkey could do this.”

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=127&newsid=83781&ch=0


And here in Turkish:
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/4016416.asp?gid=69


After Jafari was in Turkey, now Sunnite Leaders Tarik el Hasimi and Salih Mutlak will come to Turkey, after they have been in December already here.

But the surprisingly visit of all is Muktada Al-Sadr, who will officially get a audience with Turkish Prime Minister.

I don't think the Kurds are going to go for this.

 

[ekrem]

I think its pronounced "Turaqistan"


:

what do you mean by this? we are not relatives from Iraqis.

our realtives are shown on this picture:
http://www.geocities.com/turkfolkloru/jpg/turkdunyasi.jpg

 

[ekrem]

I don't think the Kurds are going to go for this.

great analytical skills you have. Doesn't change a thing, that time for US is comeing more and more to leave. And of course this gap will be filled by others, changeing somethings.

 

[dmp]

great analytical skills you have. Doesn't change a thing, that time for US is comeing more and more to leave.

You're excited to have Turks killed and bombed and other innocents lost?

There's no possible way a terrorist would be MORE intimidated by a Turkish force than what is there now.

 

[nosarcasm]

You're excited to have Turks killed and bombed and other innocents lost?

There's no possible way a terrorist would be MORE intimidated by a Turkish force than what is there now.

thats what I thougt, the Turks are not that well liked as the former
leaders of the Ottoman Empire. While the Turkmen in Iraq would like that move
the Kurds would definitly fight it.

And the two other factions will continue their fight for Iraq. I see no upside
in it for Turkey. With their army losses would be quite high. For what?

 

[ekrem]

You're excited to have Turks killed and bombed and other innocents lost?

There's no possible way a terrorist would be MORE intimidated by a Turkish force than what is there now.

Why should Sunnite arabs kill Sunnite Turks? Remember when Turkey mediated between US and Sunnites in Istanbul in December before elections.
Sunnite interests do greatly match with Turkey's interests.
Turkey is no vasall of USA. We showed this on March 2003.
Turkey is giving Palestinanis jobs in Gaza with Turkish businesman while Arabs only please Palestinian hearts.

The difference now is, Turkey manages to get Shias also on its side. Be it politician Jafari or militia Al-Sadr.
And other Iran-backed Shias won't plot against Turkey also. Because Iran will hold them back as Iran needs Turkey for different reasons.

Turkey is trying to treat all Iraqi groups the same. Doesn't favor one over another. With this strategy Iraqi geographical integrity could be saved and will be.

There is only Al-Qaida who will bomb. But This is a different thing bombing Sunnites+Al-Qaida together then bombing Al-Qaida alone.
And it is no secret that part of Iraqi citizens back and maybe assist terrorists. This will also not be the case anymore by Sunnites and Shias.

You, USA understand yourself as christian. So it is no secret that "giving-religion-priority-ARABS" understand you as that what you are.
US-Soldier and Turkish soldier is difference.

You are being understood there as occupiers, we instead are those who didn't allowed you Turkey useing as Attack-base. We will be undesrtood there as those who refused giving you Turkey as attack-base. And of course as a mediator to keep Iraq as a whole with its valid geographic boarders.

Don't you think this a difference between Turks ans Americans?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Why should Sunnite arabs kill Sunnite Turks? Remember when Turkey mediated between US and Sunnites in Istanbul in December before elections.
Sunnite interests do greatly match with Turkey's interests.
Turkey is no vasall of USA. We showed this on March 2003.
Turkey is giving Palestinanis jobs in Gaza with Turkish businesman while Arabs only please Palestinian hearts.

The difference now is, Turkey manages to get Shias also on its side. Be it politician Jafari or militia Al-Sadr.
And other Iran-backed Shias won't plot against Turkey also. Because Iran will hold them back as Iran needs Turkey for different reasons.

Turkey is trying to treat all Iraqi groups the same. Doesn't favor one over another. With this strategy Iraqi geographical integrity could be saved and will be.

There is only Al-Qaida who will bomb. But This is a different thing bombing Sunnites+Al-Qaida together then bombing Al-Qaida alone.
And it is no secret that part of Iraqi citizens back and maybe assist terrorists. This will also not be the case anymore by Sunnites and Shias.

You, USA understand yourself as christian. So it is no secret that "giving-religion-priority-ARABS" understand you as that what you are.
US-Soldier and Turkish soldier is difference.

You are being understood there as occupiers, we instead are those who didn't allowed you Turkey useing as Attack-base. We will be undesrtood there as those who refused giving you Turkey as attack-base. And of course as a mediator to keep Iraq as a whole with its valid geographic boarders.

Don't you think this a difference between Turks ans Americans?

This won't happen. The real point of the iraq war to project american influence into the region, for the safety of the west.

 

[ekrem]

This won't happen. The real point of the iraq war to project american influence into the region, for the safety of the west.

Of course you say this won't happen. It does not meet your interst as weel intrsts of Kurds.
But Arabs (Shia+Sunnite) are also there. And Jafari being Primeminister of Iraq.
So time will come you have to leave.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Of course you say this won't happen. It does not meet your interst as weel intrsts of Kurds.
But Arabs (Shia+Sunnite) are also there. And Jafari being Primeminister of Iraq.
So time will come you have to leave.

Nope. We'll be there for several more years. Get used to it. The global caliphate isn't going to happen.

 

[dmp]

Turkey is trying to treat all Iraqi groups the same. Doesn't favor one over another. With this strategy Iraqi geographical integrity could be saved and will be.

There is only Al-Qaida who will bomb. But This is a different thing bombing Sunnites+Al-Qaida together then bombing Al-Qaida alone.
And it is no secret that part of Iraqi citizens back and maybe assist terrorists. This will also not be the case anymore by Sunnites and Shias.

brother - the Terrorists in Iraq want to kill EVERYONE who doesn't follow islam, and everyone who supports those who don't follow islam to the degree THEY follow the faith.

Changing the flag of the country occupying iraq won't change their blood thirst.

 

[dilloduck]

Thanks and good luck!

 

[no1tovote4]

That is total rubbish. If the Turks entered the entire Kurdish area would uprise and all peace would end for decades.