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But Canada is gun control heaven....right? But....how is gun crime going up there?

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We are told Canada has great gun control laws.......

Then, why is gun crime going up there.....?

Leftists in Canada are like leftists in the U.S.....punish normal gun owners.....reduce sentences for actual, violent gun criminals..

Left wingers are insane the world over...

Trudeau’s only major policy change has been to change regulations for licenced gun owners.

It shouldn’t need to be said that criminals aren’t licenced gun owners and the guns they are using are overwhelmingly smuggled handguns from the United States, not the rifles Trudeau has banned.
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According to Statistics Canada, total weapons offences across the country rose 16% overall between 2010 and 2020. The number of murders committed with guns have gone up 58% over that time, which — according to Statistics Canada — are mostly gang-related murders with handguns.




 

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How do these guys hunt after they take their guns? Do liberals have a way to make the animals shoot themselves?
 

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This year alone we have had multiple cases of day light shooting.

This is what happens when you employ cowardly, covert police who only "solve" cases when they are commiting the crime or manufacturing the criminal themselves. REAL policing isn't the game in Canada, it's a racket to overpay the least impressive among us.
 

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Proximity to the US with over 300 million guns
 
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Proximity to the US with over 300 million guns

Yeah, Britain is an island and Europe has strict gun control but they can’t stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain…..sell that silliness to Biden voters.
 

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Yeah, Britain is an island and Europe has strict gun control but they can’t stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain…..sell that silliness to Biden voters.
hmmmm…..let me see

I will take England’s murder rate over ours any day
Ours is four times as high
 
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hmmmm…..let me see

I will take England’s murder rate over ours any day
Ours is four times as high


Then you have to trade our criminals for British criminals....they have access to guns, they simply don't use them to murder people.
 

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Then you have to trade our criminals for British criminals....they have access to guns, they simply don't use them to murder people.
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hmmmm…..let me see

I will take England’s murder rate over ours any day
Ours is four times as high
Actually the murder rates in the US are entirely due to the War on Drugs, just like we had high murder rates with Prohibition as well.
 

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Popular opinion is that the Conservatives/Nazi party lost the election because of their rejection of the ban on assault rifles.

And fwiw, the extreme right PPC got wiped right out. They were more Trumpy than Trump!
 

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Popular opinion is that the Conservatives/Nazi party lost the election because of their rejection of the ban on assault rifles.

And fwiw, the extreme right PPC got wiped right out. They were more Trumpy than Trump!

Doesn't Canada have a constitution and courts to prevent illegal executive order like this?
There is no additional firepower to an AR.
If you make an AR illegal, you have to make all guns illegal, since an AR uses a bullet the same diameter as a .22 cal., the about the smallest bullet made.
 

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I will take England’s murder rate over ours any day
Ours is four times as high

But there is no causation between firearms laws and murder rates.
The US does have 5.3 murders per 100k people, and the UK only has 1.2 per 100k, but that is due to the War on Drugs, not firearm laws.

There is no way to reduce firearm murder rates with gun control laws that all drug dealers have to ignore.
And if they can get illegal drugs, they can and will get illegal firearms to protect their black market cash business.

All gun control laws do is disarm honest people, thus increasing crime.
 

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Doesn't Canada have a constitution and courts to prevent illegal executive order like this?
There is no additional firepower to an AR.
If you make an AR illegal, you have to make all guns illegal, since an AR uses a bullet the same diameter as a .22 cal., the about the smallest bullet made.
If you think the .223 military round can be compared to a .22 rim fire then you know very little about the topic. There's no .22 rim fire rifle made that has equal fire power.

I can provide a couple of explanations for why Canada is banning assault weapons.
1. They have the capacity to outgun the police.
2. The physical appearance of the weapon has appeal to the wrong kind of people. The perception is that people with AR type weapons who shoot at human silouette targets are not serious hunters.

I'm suggesting that those two reasons are among perhaps some other reasons for why Canada is banning them.
It's the popular perception of the voters who went so strongly for Trudeau in the 905 areas, and allowed him to beat O'Toole.

So there you go! An honest opinion from the horse's mouth. Can you keep the discussion civil?
 

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But there is no causation between firearms laws and murder rates.
The US does have 5.3 murders per 100k people, and the UK only has 1.2 per 100k, but that is due to the War on Drugs, not firearm laws.

There is no way to reduce firearm murder rates with gun control laws that all drug dealers have to ignore.
And if they can get illegal drugs, they can and will get illegal firearms to protect their black market cash business.

All gun control laws do is disarm honest people, thus increasing crime.


If we ship them our Negroes and Hispanics (that commit the great number of gun crimes in the US) their rates would soar.

Most gun crime takes place in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes with strict gun control laws by the same minority demographics that elect the filthy Democrats.
 
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If you think the .223 military round can be compared to a .22 rim fire then you know very little about the topic. There's no .22 rim fire rifle made that has equal fire power.

I can provide a couple of explanations for why Canada is banning assault weapons.
1. They have the capacity to outgun the police.
2. The physical appearance of the weapon has appeal to the wrong kind of people. The perception is that people with AR type weapons who shoot at human silouette targets are not serious hunters.

I'm suggesting that those two reasons are among perhaps some other reasons for why Canada is banning them.
It's the popular perception of the voters who went so strongly for Trudeau in the 905 areas, and allowed him to beat O'Toole.

So there you go! An honest opinion from the horse's mouth. Can you keep the discussion civil?


Moron....they aren't used in any crimes, even here in the U.S........you are a fucking idiot.......


The guy who wears black face, trudeau, won because Canada is a country of welfare recipients......

There is only one mass public shooting where the rifle had an advantage in the shooting, and that was Las Vegas, where the range was over 200 yards......but he was also firing into a tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people, at night, from a concealed and fortified position.......with his initial shooting masked by the concert.



And if the crowd hadn't been trapped in that concert arena, he wouldn't have been able to kill as many since they would have run away or found cover.....since shooting at moving targets at hundreds of yards is almost impossible for all but expertly trained shooters...



At the range of every other mass public shooting a rifle has no advantage over pistols or shotguns.......



again.....at the range of a mass public shooting the AR-15 is no better than a pump action shotgun....as are 2 handguns......you idiot...



Boulder....used an AR-15 with magazines that held more than 10 bullets.. 10 killed.....



Virginia Tech...2 pistols, one with 10 round magazine..... 32 killed.



Do you see that the AR-15 killed fewer people than the 2 pistols?



Boulder...10 killed with an AR-15 rifle and regular magazines ( holding more than 10 bullets)



Luby's Cafe..... 2 pistols....24 killed.



Do you see that the 2 pistols killed more than the AR-15?



Do you know what the difference was between these attacks?



The cops immediately responded and shot at the attacker in boulder, causing him to stop shooting unarmed victims, and then he shot himself....



Virginia Tech and Luby's Cafe, the police didn't get there, and at Luby's Cafe, the one woman who could have shot and killed the attacker had to leave her gun in her car because of stupid gun free zone laws....



Boulder AR-15 with magazines that hold more than 10 bullets...you know, regular magazines..... 10 killed...



Kerch, Russia, Polytechnic school shooting.... 5 shot, pump action shotgun...which means it had 5 shells which is 5 less than 10........20 killed 70 wounded.



Kazan, Russia school shooting....semi-automatic shotgun...9 killed, 23 injured



Do you see that the AR-15 killed fewer people than the 5 shot, pump action shotgun?



The difference? The Russian police station was 100 yards away from the school...and it still took them 10 minutes to get to the school...and he managed to kill 20 people with a 5 shot, pump action shotgun....10 more than the Boulder shooter with a rifle and a regular sized magazine...





So again.......in a mass public shooting the number of bullets in the gun magazine doesn't mean anything......the gun doesn't make the difference....



What makes the difference?



1) if the target is a gun free zone, more people get killed.



2) if someone starts shooting at the attacker, they commit suicide, or surrender, or runaway....



That is what you don't understand and don't care to understand since you simply have a mental issue when it comes to the AR-15 rifle.

That rifle had no special advantage in a mass public shooting.



We have 20 million AR-15 rifles in private hands in the U.S....



They were used for mass public shootings 4 times in 2019 killing a grand total of



41



Deer kill 200 people a year.



Ladders kill 300 people a year.



Lawn mowers kill between 90-100 people a year...



20 million, and growing, AR-15 rifles in private hands....they were used 4 times in mass public shootings...



Killed in each shooting?



7

9

22

3
 

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If we ship them our Negroes and Hispanics (that commit the great number of gun crimes in the US) their rates would soar.

Most gun crime takes place in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes with strict gun control laws by the same minority demographics that elect the filthy Democrats.
Big cities are where gun crimes are committed. There's nothing in suggesting that your cities are shitholes.
 
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Big cities are where gun crimes are committed. There's nothing in suggesting that your cities are shitholes.


Our cities controlled by left wingers have high gun crime rates because they keep letting gun criminals out..

Canada is doing the same thing...that is why your gun crime rate is going up...not AR-15 rifles...you idiot.

What Trudeau is talking about is his ban on rifles like the AR-15. This is one of the most popular target shooting rifles in Canada — more than 250,000 of them have been legally purchased and the closest I can come to finding one used in a crime in Canada is a single Mafia hit several years ago using an illegally smuggled rifle.

The gun crime problem is Canada is one of criminals using guns — illegal handguns mostly smuggled in from the United States — to ply their trade. Trudeau is focused on legal guns held by people who have completed a safety course, undergone a significant RCMP background check and have had loved ones sign off on them being allowed by the government to own guns.
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Under Bill C-22, put before Parliament by the Trudeau Liberals last February, mandatory minimum sentences will be removed for crimes such as:

— Possession of restricted or prohibited weapon knowing possession is unauthorized.

— Possession of weapon obtained through crime.

— Weapons trafficking.

— Unauthorized import/export of firearm.

— Robbery with firearm.

— Extortion with firearm.
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While claiming to be concerned about gang violence and shootings in Canadian cities, the Trudeau Liberals are reducing sentences for illegally possessing a gun, buying and selling illegal guns, gun smuggling, and for robbery or extortion while using a gun.


LILLEY: Trudeau is reducing sentences for serious gun crimes, not making our streets safer
 

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Moron....they aren't used in any crimes, even here in the U.S........you are a fucking idiot.......
If you choose to be rude and abusive toward me, you'll get no discussion with me. That's a prerequisite regardless of whether you care or not.
 

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If you think the .223 military round can be compared to a .22 rim fire then you know very little about the topic. There's no .22 rim fire rifle made that has equal fire power.

I can provide a couple of explanations for why Canada is banning assault weapons.
1. They have the capacity to outgun the police.
2. The physical appearance of the weapon has appeal to the wrong kind of people. The perception is that people with AR type weapons who shoot at human silouette targets are not serious hunters.

I'm suggesting that those two reasons are among perhaps some other reasons for why Canada is banning them.
It's the popular perception of the voters who went so strongly for Trudeau in the 905 areas, and allowed him to beat O'Toole.

So there you go! An honest opinion from the horse's mouth. Can you keep the discussion civil?

You are the one who "know very little about the topic".
While the .223 is more powerful than a rimfire .22, the POINT is that the .223 is one of the weakest bullets made.
It is NOT powerful, and in fact it is illegal in most states for deer hunting precisely because it is not powerful enough and not likely to kill cleanly.

The ARs most definitely do NOT "have the capacity to outgun the police".
The only significance of an AR is that it is light, cheap, and little recoil.
It has no greater rate of fire than any firearm except bolt action rifles.
And in fact, most police use ARs themselves, because they are light, cheap, and have little recoil, so they can't be "outgunned".

The physical appearance of ARs tend to be black since they are aluminum and that is the best preservative finish, but they can be any color if you want.
Make them all pink.

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