Bush's Lying To Start A War Is A War Crime!!!

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by spillmind
what do you want me to link? check the polls. his popularity is down. and it's not just unrelated happenstance.

I've asked you 4 times now. I believe I was rather clear each and every time. You obviously are preaching pure crap. Your avoidance is hilarious!

"You get nothing. You lose. Good day, Sir!"

 

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by Sir Evil
(quoted)
"You get nothing. You lose. Good day, Sir!"
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What, Charlie does'nt get the chocolate!:rotflmao:

If Spillmind is nice we may give him an everlasting gobstopper as a parting gift.

 

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by Sir Evil
Oh no, would'nt do that! he may give it to Slugworth!! Send him down the shaft, he's a bad egg!

Yes, Spillmind will now be referred to as Veruca Salt!

 

[jon_forward]

Nah..just give him the chocolate bar wrappers..he is probably running low on tin-foil anyways..

 

[jimnyc]

I've posted this for Spilly once before and it's deserving yet again.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/gds.wav

 

[spillmind]

grow up, gentlemen.

how convenient! but never EVER a lie. alright man, if you say so.

jim, you don't think it was lying. i tend to think it more a lie than the truth. let's leave it at that. fact is, it's a matter of INTERPRETATION.

it's really sad to see you guys parading around and getting off on insults on a message board. and i thought i had no life!

The only thing embarassing is your refusal to see the truth for what it is, lack of HUMINT and poor intel

...now that's standing up and accepting responsibility like a REAL MAN!

AKA PASSING THE BUCK

there was a time when you guys replied intelligently. i guess the collective IQ goes south in time with the republican president's popularity?

 

[spillmind]

how on earth is this tin-foil thing funny?

 

[jimnyc]

Lighten up, Veruca, you hypocrite! You're telling US to grow up? Need I remind you that I've probably read every post you've made on this board?

Pot...kettle...black

 

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by spillmind
how on earth is this tin-foil thing funny?

It's not funny, it's actually rather sad.

 

[jon_forward]

Spilly ..crap started going down hill long before G.W. got to DC....accept it...get over it...if your attempts at bashing werent so of base maybe you could get a little respect...same crap different day....it took a lifetime to get you to give up the imminent BS and now its WMD.....if you arent a democrat you should be..your IQ pre-qualifys you...

 

[kcmcdonald]

Spillmind,
Sit back and take a breath of fresh air. It's OK man every thing will be OK.
Now, if you make amistake on something you promised is that a lie?
If tell someone you can do something for them then you can't is that a lie?
In both these circumstances it is an Honest mistake!!! That's it!!!
If someone is givin false information and acts on it it is not the person who acted that is at fault. It is the information. Bush did not get a memo saying there was no WMD's in Iraq and then turned around and said there was. Now that is a lie. Under your argument Many foriegn dignitaireis including the UN would be guilty of lieing. The whole world thought he had weapons, the man wouldn't coorperate with inspectors so he had to be removed. The "preceaved" threat was to great to ingnore. That's that. Bush didn't lie, stop saying that until you can get some proof that he recived good intel that said there was nothing there. Because the intel he and the rest of the world got said there was shit there.
P.S
Take the tinfiol off your head you look ridiculous!!

 

[Bry]

I disagree, KC. If someone says something is so, and he turns out to be wrong, it was either a lie or an error. In either case, in most reasonable situations, the person who originally said the thing was so should be held responsible. Here in Spain, the intelligence service notified the government that the evidence of WMDs was not convincing enough. The government supported the war anyway, citing of course the existence of WMDs. Now THAT was a lie. In the case of the US government, if it is true that noone said "hey, this evidence is mostly heresay and old intelligence!" an accounting needs to be made. Responsibility needs to be taken, and I for one am not just talking about the white house, though their responsibility too is evident.

Let me be clear: I do not think this is a partisan issue. If Kerry voted in favour of the war, based on exactly the same intelligence as the administration, then his responsibility too is in evidence.

 

[lilcountriegal]

Let me be clear: I do not think this is a partisan issue. If Kerry voted in favour of the war, based on exactly the same intelligence as the administration, then his responsibility too is in evidence.

I completely agree as well. Unfortunately, being an election year, this is the mud that's going to be slung everywhere.

I stand by my original statement that neither side should be standing and pointing fingers for "who said what" and "who told who what", etc. Both sides are equally responsible. Which is why this should be, in no way, partisan... instead of pointing the finger at each other, we should be banding together to figure out what went wrong and make sure it doesn't happen again.

 

[MadMax]

Originally posted by MS36
HERE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EVIDENCE THAT WILL BE PRESENTED IN A COURT OF LAW:

CAN EVERYONE NOW SEE THAT THE BIGGEST BENEFACTORS FROM 911 IS THE BUSH/CHENEY GANG OF THIEVES AND KILLERS.
http://www.rense.com/general40/ecor.htm
http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.html
http://www.rense.com/general41/mech.htm
http://www.rense.com/general41/bogus.htm
http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com/wtc.htm
http://www.geocities.com/bushatbooker/
http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm
Bush and Cheney and their gang did 911>>>they're the ones who have benefited the most and made billions of $$$$

LISTEN TO THE AMAZING INTERVIEWS WITH ATTORNEY PHILIP BERG AND ELLEN MARIANI, THE WOMAN WHOSE HUSBAND WAS A VICTIM IN 911 AND WHO HAS FILED A SUIT AGAINST PRESIDENT BUSH, THE CIA AND OTHER GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FOR THEIR COMPLICITY IN 911.
This has not been reported in the corporate controlled media.
Finally someone is taking action. Very compelling
http://www.jackblood.com/index/id1.html
Scroll down to
Audio Interview With Attorney Philip J. Berg (December 15, 2003)
Interview With Ellen Mariani (December, 3, 2003)

COPY OF THE MARIANI LAWSUIT
http://nancho.net/911/mariani.html

US AIR FORCE INVOLVED IN 911
http://www.rense.com/general45/911.htm

BUSH SR. MET WITH OSSAMA BIN LADEN'S OLDER BROTHER ON 911
President Bush's father, Bush the elder was meeting with one of Bin Laden's brother in Washington D.C. on the morning of 911. What an AMAZING coincidence!!! The odds of this happening are over a 1,000,000 to one.The Bush and Bin Laden families have been partners in business over the last 30 years and have made millions of $$$$ together!!!
On the morning of 911,Senator Bob Graham was meeting with the Pakistani security official who financed Mohamed Atta, one of the supposed hijackers.
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/041203metwithbinladen.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5103.htm
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??? SHOULDN'T THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BE TOLD ABOUT THESE MEETINGS AND AN INVESTIGATION LAUNCHED TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THESE TWO STRANGE MEETINGS ON 911???

CONDI TOLD SF MAYOR NOT TO FLY ON 911
Someone warned San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown not to fly days before 911. Brown devulged this information right after 911 and it could be one of his biggest blunders. Because whoever told Brown not to fly on 911, had to have prior knowledge of 911!!!
US Attorney General John Ashcroft got a similar warning.
http://www.rense.com/general46/warn.html

FBI INTIMIDATING 911 WITNESSES
http://www.rense.com/general45/witnesses.htm
WAR ON "TERRORISM" IS BOGUS
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html

Gen Tommy Franks has said that if WMD attack
is unleashed on the USA, the Constitution will be discarded in favor of a military dictatorship.Guess who becomes the dictator???
http://www.rense.com/general44/atttk.htm

BUSH PLANNED IRAQI WAR BEFORE 911
http://www.rense.com/general47/before.htm

http://www.sundayherald.com/39221

BUSH AND CHENEY AND NOT OSSAMA ARE BENEFITTING THE MOST FROM 911 AND WAR

OSSAMA ISN'T GETTING THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN WEAPONS CONTRACTS

PRESIDENT BUSH'S FATHER'S CARLYLE GROUP GOT BILLIONS IN WEAPONS CONTRACTS
http://www.rense.com/general17/kdks.htm

OSSAMA DIDN'T GET THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF OIL OFF THE COAST OF AFGHANISTAN.

UNOCAL, A LARGE AMERICAN CORP.GOT THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF AFGHANI OIL
http://wmass-lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-wmass-discuss/2002-January/000267 .html

OSSAMA DIDN'T GET THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF IRAQI OIL

VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY'S HALIBURTON CORP.GOT THE TRILLIONS IN IRAQI OIL
http://www.counterpunch.org/leopold05142003.html

OSSAMA DIDN'T GET THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF NO-BID CONTRACTS TO REBUILD IRAQ

SECRETARY OF DEFENSE RUMSFELD'S BECHTEL GOT BILLIONS IN IRAQI REBUILDING CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3397.htm

AND ON AND ON AND ON

Man I am sorry for quoting this whole mess. but I can't F'N help it!!!! :three: :funnyface :alco: :alco: All I cna say is what a f*ckin loon!!!

 

[jon_forward]

madmax...ms36 is a troll...he post and then poof is gone...only to re appear and post the same thread over again...loon is to kind

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by Bry
That's a fair question. I think that Clinton's handling of Iraq was none too good either. From a moral standpoint, the twelve years of embargo probably took a far greater toll on the people of Iraq than the year since the invasion started. Pressure should have been applied earlier and more consistently. That being said, Bush went from almost no pressure to a full scale invasion in a matter of months. I think that the serious threat of invasion, sponsored by the UN, would have forced Saddam to give the inspectors all the freedom of action they could have possibly wanted. The UN could have saved face, the US could have saved trillions, and the objective of bringing Saddam into compliance could have been accomplished, and if it wasn't, the UN could then have been more effectively persuaded to support an invasion, and of course to shoulder more of the economic burden.

<Unfortuately the UN was not willing to provide this pressure.>

I've seen it bandied about on this message board, but I've never heard the administration talk about Saddam's payments to the families of suicide bombers. I'd be interested in seeing a report on one of those families that presumably benefited from Saddam's money. In any case, Palestenians have enough reasons without Saddam's blood money.

Have you ever read Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth? It's a brilliant account of the psychology of the resistances. Suicide Bombers do not shock me, nor does the torture employed by Israel, and I don't think their blood feud was what we had in mind when we declared a "war on terror." If anything, giving money to the families of suicide bombers is the lesser of two evils when compared to the aid the US metes out to Israel each year. Either way, you're implicated in a very nasty and labyrinthine conflict in which the concepts of good and bad, right and wrong, have little or no meaning. But that discussion is for another forum.

<While I've been spared the pleasure of reading the above text, I do know that the acceptance of 'blood money' has rendered the Palestinians a nationless people.>

That's a fair question. I think that Clinton's handling of Iraq was none too good either. From a moral standpoint, the twelve years of embargo probably took a far greater toll on the people of Iraq than the year since the invasion started. Pressure should have been applied earlier and more consistently. That being said, Bush went from almost no pressure to a full scale invasion in a matter of months. I think that the serious threat of invasion, sponsored by the UN, would have forced Saddam to give the inspectors all the freedom of action they could have possibly wanted. The UN could have saved face, the US could have saved trillions, and the objective of bringing Saddam into compliance could have been accomplished, and if it wasn't, the UN could then have been more effectively persuaded to support an invasion, and of course to shoulder more of the economic burden.

No joke, Not only the Clinton admininstration, but Bush 1. Truth to tell, Saddam thought he could do what he wished, and so he could, until 9/11.

Have you ever read Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth? It's a brilliant account of the psychology of the resistances. Suicide Bombers do not shock me, nor does the torture employed by Israel, and I don't think their blood feud was what we had in mind when we declared a "war on terror." If anything, giving money to the families of suicide bombers is the lesser of two evils when compared to the aid the US metes out to Israel each year. Either way, you're implicated in a very nasty and labyrinthine conflict in which the concepts of good and bad, right and wrong, have little or no meaning.

Not having the pleasure, I can say that paying of the families has ensured that a nation will not be granted. This is the most imbecilic post I've seen. Most of us agree that the Palestinians should have a 'homeland', even if carved out of 'Israel', problem is they want it all, not part.

 

[MadMax]

Originally posted by eric
Don't worry my liberal friends you will have another 4 years with GWB to find out !

Right you are bern and ww !

Hell yeah and let the games begin!

 

[BONDI BOY]

I have only just stumbled on this site while researching infomation on G.W,s religious fervor and paul wolfowitz re the PROJECT REPORT. I strongly recomend that the users of this chat room do the same. Here are a few key words that will help you on your way.[simpletons] Christian fundamentalist, Pax Americana, Project Report, American Internationalism.

 

[sitarro]

Originally posted by BONDI BOY
I have only just stumbled on this site while researching infomation on G.W,s religious fervor and paul wolfowitz re the PROJECT REPORT. I strongly recomend that the users of this chat room do the same. Here are a few key words that will help you on your way.[simpletons] Christian fundamentalist, Pax Americana, Project Report, American Internationalism.

Oh no , President Bush's religous fervor , God help us . . . excuse me . . . Satan help us . Heaven err. . . Hell forbid that the United States would vote in a leader with some religious beliefs , how simpleton of us .
Bondi Boy?
I would confront you on your opinions but it wouldn't be fair , I've seen everything you will type before you type it and it is weak , extremely weak .Here in the U.S. , we have had the internet for quite awhile (since Al Gore invented it) and that same tripe has been floating around for at least forever . Every once in a while some genius that just discovered his own navel finds those sites , gets hooked and reeled in , then refers to those that believe different as simpletons. My suggestion would be for you to take a long hard look in the mirror , one thing though , those mirrors can be a bit complicated but just remember . . . .the image you see is reversed and objects appear closer than they really are .

 

[Zhukov]

Originally posted by BONDI BOY
I have only just stumbled on this site while researching infomation on G.W,s religious fervor and paul wolfowitz re the PROJECT REPORT. I strongly recomend that the users of this chat room do the same. Here are a few key words that will help you on your way.[simpletons] Christian fundamentalist, Pax Americana, Project Report, American Internationalism.

It's called the Project for a New American Century ( www.newamericancentury.org ) and we've all heard of it. Thanks though.