CDZ Burkini ban overturned

[GaryDog]

France's top court suspends burkini ban

I'm an atheist and I have no love for Islam, or silly religious traditions. That said, telling people what to wear at the beach is incredibly stupid. French court checked the overreach of the French executive govt. here, and that will do more to stem the tide of Islamic extremism than the ban itself.

What say you?

 

[RodISHI]

France sold out to become an Islamist stronghold years ago and now they don't like it?

 

[GaryDog]

France sold out to become an Islamist stronghold years ago and now they don't like it?

I think you're confused about the story. The judge overturned the ban.

 

[Toronado3800]

I'm glad they reversed it. IF a gal wants to wear a burkini great. IF she wants to wear a bikini great.

If this thread is about a bigger issue of Muslims in France lets divide it into particulars so I can weigh in on each intelligently.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Its the right decision. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear.

 

[Pilate]

Hmmm...honestly it doesn't really matter does it?

 

[jwoodie]

France's top court suspends burkini ban

I'm an atheist and I have no love for Islam, or silly religious traditions. That said, telling people what to wear at the beach is incredibly stupid. French court checked the overreach of the French executive govt. here, and that will do more to stem the tide of Islamic extremism than the ban itself.

Care to explain?

 

[GLASNOST]

France's top court suspends burkini ban

I'm an atheist and I have no love for Islam, or silly religious traditions. That said, telling people what to wear at the beach is incredibly stupid. French court checked the overreach of the French executive govt. here, and that will do more to stem the tide of Islamic extremism than the ban itself.

What say you?

I have to agree with you. FIRST of all I don't really see how a dress code is necessary when it comes to wearing 'too much' clothes. People in suits and dresses often stop by the beach to have a look ...... tourists with rucksacks on their backs .... ladies in high-heeled shoes (in their hand) to have a gawk. SECONDLY If too much clothes can be deemed immoral (which i just can't see myself) then it would be a simple matter of creating a beach just like the sections of nude beaches that all (or most) cities have. What's the big problem?

 

[alpine]

Islam is a religion that dictates what women should wear.

Democracy and freedom supposed to do the opposite of that...
Which it did...

So hopefully some muslims living in western countries and still have islamist ideologies will learn this lesson and become more liberal,
rather than being a hypocrite selfish asshole and try to undermine the very basic fundamentals giving them the freedom to express their religion full fledged in a western society...

 

[JoeMoma]

The male Muslims need to stay away from the beach. They ought not be looking at the scantly clad non-Muslim women. They need an all Muslim beach to go to.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Shouldn't the pious Muslim women be at home, where their religion states they belong?

Cracks me up, like the woman in Florida who sued to where her burqa in her DL picture. I'm thinking "doesn't your religion tell you that you can't drive?"

 

[dani67]

france

iran

 

[westwall]

Its the right decision. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear.

Really? If you go to a host of Muslim countries, and you're a woman, you're taking your life in your hands if you don't wear a head covering.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Its the right decision. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear.

Really? If you go to a host of Muslim countries, and you're a woman, you're taking your life in your hands if you don't wear a head covering.

That's the damn truth. I watched a woman get caned by the "morality police" in Saudia Arabia once , because her ankles showed under her bag.

Disgusting.

 

[Coyote]

Should women be forced to wear bikini's at a beach?

In free societies, we have choices of what to wear. We have cultural guidelines on MINIMAL standards (cover up the naughty bits) but we've never had cultural guidelines mandating maximum standards (ie you are not allowed to cover your legs and arms). We have some standards that come into play with the requirements of certain professions or public safety, but other than that we are free to choose.

Why, suddenly, is that freedom of choice being removed from certain classes of people?

One group calls it "oppression of women". Yet, isn't removing choice "oppression"? People who bring this up think there is never any choice when it comes to Muslims. They don't make the same argument for other religions where observent women are required to cover their heads and wear long sleeved clothing that covers their legs out of respect for their religious views on modesty.

The French tried to ban "burkinis" - but why? Should a woman be forced to wear a body baring bathing suit against her will any more then she should be forced to don a burka?

Banning burkas is more understandable - public safety comes into it. But burkinis?

 

[alpine]

Should women be forced to wear bikini's at a beach?

In free societies, we have choices of what to wear. We have cultural guidelines on MINIMAL standards (cover up the naughty bits) but we've never had cultural guidelines mandating maximum standards (ie you are not allowed to cover your legs and arms). We have some standards that come into play with the requirements of certain professions or public safety, but other than that we are free to choose.

Why, suddenly, is that freedom of choice being removed from certain classes of people?

One group calls it "oppression of women". Yet, isn't removing choice "oppression"? People who bring this up think there is never any choice when it comes to Muslims. They don't make the same argument for other religions where observent women are required to cover their heads and wear long sleeved clothing that covers their legs out of respect for their religious views on modesty.

The French tried to ban "burkinis" - but why? Should a woman be forced to wear a body baring bathing suit against her will any more then she should be forced to don a burka?

Banning burkas is more understandable - public safety comes into it. But burkinis?

The reason is very simple; because people are disgusted with islamism already...

How rational they claim to be, human beings are irrational creatures at the end of the day.
Nobody should expect French to go through a long reasoning process before reacting to certain stimuli put out there by the islamist ideology.

This is just the beginning...

Court might have overturned this ban, based on the laws...
But remember;
people have the power to make new laws, or change current laws...

This is going to get uglier in the near future...

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Should women be forced to wear bikini's at a beach?

In free societies, we have choices of what to wear. We have cultural guidelines on MINIMAL standards (cover up the naughty bits) but we've never had cultural guidelines mandating maximum standards (ie you are not allowed to cover your legs and arms). We have some standards that come into play with the requirements of certain professions or public safety, but other than that we are free to choose.

Why, suddenly, is that freedom of choice being removed from certain classes of people?

One group calls it "oppression of women". Yet, isn't removing choice "oppression"? People who bring this up think there is never any choice when it comes to Muslims. They don't make the same argument for other religions where observent women are required to cover their heads and wear long sleeved clothing that covers their legs out of respect for their religious views on modesty.

The French tried to ban "burkinis" - but why? Should a woman be forced to wear a body baring bathing suit against her will any more then she should be forced to don a burka?

Banning burkas is more understandable - public safety comes into it. But burkinis?

The reasoning was the head was covered. Rendering facial recognition software for surveillance video useless.

Sad state of affairs we live in when you can't even trust Muslim women who are swimming.

 

[Coyote]

Should women be forced to wear bikini's at a beach?

In free societies, we have choices of what to wear. We have cultural guidelines on MINIMAL standards (cover up the naughty bits) but we've never had cultural guidelines mandating maximum standards (ie you are not allowed to cover your legs and arms). We have some standards that come into play with the requirements of certain professions or public safety, but other than that we are free to choose.

Why, suddenly, is that freedom of choice being removed from certain classes of people?

One group calls it "oppression of women". Yet, isn't removing choice "oppression"? People who bring this up think there is never any choice when it comes to Muslims. They don't make the same argument for other religions where observent women are required to cover their heads and wear long sleeved clothing that covers their legs out of respect for their religious views on modesty.

The French tried to ban "burkinis" - but why? Should a woman be forced to wear a body baring bathing suit against her will any more then she should be forced to don a burka?

Banning burkas is more understandable - public safety comes into it. But burkinis?

The reasoning was the head was covered. Rendering facial recognition software for surveillance video useless.

Sad state of affairs we live in when you can't even trust Muslim women who are swimming.

A burkini does not cover the face. Did they propose banning bathing caps?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Should women be forced to wear bikini's at a beach?

In free societies, we have choices of what to wear. We have cultural guidelines on MINIMAL standards (cover up the naughty bits) but we've never had cultural guidelines mandating maximum standards (ie you are not allowed to cover your legs and arms). We have some standards that come into play with the requirements of certain professions or public safety, but other than that we are free to choose.

Why, suddenly, is that freedom of choice being removed from certain classes of people?

One group calls it "oppression of women". Yet, isn't removing choice "oppression"? People who bring this up think there is never any choice when it comes to Muslims. They don't make the same argument for other religions where observent women are required to cover their heads and wear long sleeved clothing that covers their legs out of respect for their religious views on modesty.

The French tried to ban "burkinis" - but why? Should a woman be forced to wear a body baring bathing suit against her will any more then she should be forced to don a burka?

Banning burkas is more understandable - public safety comes into it. But burkinis?

The reasoning was the head was covered. Rendering facial recognition software for surveillance video useless.

Sad state of affairs we live in when you can't even trust Muslim women who are swimming.

A burkini does not cover the face. Did they propose banning bathing caps?

I thought the cap was part of the overall outfit??

 

[Coyote]

Should women be forced to wear bikini's at a beach?

In free societies, we have choices of what to wear. We have cultural guidelines on MINIMAL standards (cover up the naughty bits) but we've never had cultural guidelines mandating maximum standards (ie you are not allowed to cover your legs and arms). We have some standards that come into play with the requirements of certain professions or public safety, but other than that we are free to choose.

Why, suddenly, is that freedom of choice being removed from certain classes of people?

One group calls it "oppression of women". Yet, isn't removing choice "oppression"? People who bring this up think there is never any choice when it comes to Muslims. They don't make the same argument for other religions where observent women are required to cover their heads and wear long sleeved clothing that covers their legs out of respect for their religious views on modesty.

The French tried to ban "burkinis" - but why? Should a woman be forced to wear a body baring bathing suit against her will any more then she should be forced to don a burka?

Banning burkas is more understandable - public safety comes into it. But burkinis?

The reasoning was the head was covered. Rendering facial recognition software for surveillance video useless.

Sad state of affairs we live in when you can't even trust Muslim women who are swimming.

A burkini does not cover the face. Did they propose banning bathing caps?

I thought the cap was part of the overall outfit??

Of course. But people wear bathing caps who do not wear burkinis. Did they propose banning bathing caps?