Burisma Pressured Obama Admin Weeks Before Joe Biden Got Ukrainian Prosecutor Fired

[Polishprince]

Dimwinger corruption was rampant during the Barry Hussein regime.

And you`re still the only person who knows about it. Why is that?

A lot of people know that. Millions have seen the tape of Sleepy Joe bragging about extorting the Ukrainian government into firing the prosecutor that wanted to jail his ne'er-do-well son. Biden himself invoked the name of B. Hussein O implying that Obama himself was in on the scam. I guess Biden could be lying about that, but bringing Barry in for questioning sounds prudent.

 

[Billiejeens]

Dimwinger corruption was rampant during the Barry Hussein regime.

And you`re still the only person who knows about it. Why is that?

Why do you think that?

 

[iceberg]

Oh yeah -

This too -

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

dude, you’re ranting... nobody cares about this obvious political smear tactic. Trumps games are not sly or well thought out. If the repeat game has you fooled then you’re more gullible than you think.

have you EVER called out "the left" for bullshit? other than "well that wasnt very good BUT THEY WERE CLEARED!!!!

 

[Slade3200]

Oh yeah -

This too -

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

dude, you’re ranting... nobody cares about this obvious political smear tactic. Trumps games are not sly or well thought out. If the repeat game has you fooled then you’re more gullible than you think.

Now presenting verifiable facts are a smear? You ******* liars are pathetic..

yes, when the “facts” don’t show any kind of crime and when the presentation of those facts don’t include the fact that Biden wasn’t the only one pushing to get this guy fired. You’re promoting a spun up narrative and it’s obvious

Keep those blinders on tight and your tinfoil hat secure...

I’m seeing what’s actually there. You are connecting invisible dots

 

[Slade3200]

yes, when the “facts” don’t show any kind of crime and when the presentation of those facts don’t include the fact that Biden wasn’t the only one pushing to get this guy fired. You’re promoting a spun up narrative and it’s obvious

So other unnamed people wanted Viktor Shokin fired but it wasn't until Shokin threatened Burisma, and Hunter Biden's
make believe "job" that Joe Biden actually got him fired in a snit that was a billion dollar quid pro quo threat to the government of Ukraine that said get rid of this man or your aid from the US government will vanish!

The only question is are you lying or have you convinced yourself that what you want to believe is true?

other unnamed people? Have you been paying attention? Try Republican Congressmen (Rob Portman, Mark Kirk, and Ron Johnson), the head of the IMF, not to mention leaders in Ukraine and the EU. Expand beyond the right wing talking points and actually dig into the facts. They are all out there.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh yeah -

This too -

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

dude, you’re ranting... nobody cares about this obvious political smear tactic. Trumps games are not sly or well thought out. If the repeat game has you fooled then you’re more gullible than you think.

Maybe your right. But its really going to be up to the people on this. Maybe the average Joe thinks its fine for the Political Elite like the Biden Family to become rich off of public service. Maybe they think that is more than acceptable for a crack smoking , whore mongering loser that got thrown out of the Navy to become unimaginably wealthy because of his dad's graft.

But it is going to be up to the voters.

True, it’s up to the voters. Trump did a good job branding “crooked Hillary” last election and I think it played a large part in his victory. But she was under a FBI investigation at the time. He is trying to do that to Joe now, which is why he was pushing to get an official investigation going. Do you ever ask yourself why he was pushing Ukraine and China to open the investigations and not our own agencies? Come on man, open your eyes.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh yeah -

This too -

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

dude, you’re ranting... nobody cares about this obvious political smear tactic. Trumps games are not sly or well thought out. If the repeat game has you fooled then you’re more gullible than you think.

have you EVER called out "the left" for bullshit? other than "well that wasnt very good BUT THEY WERE CLEARED!!!!

Yes I have.

 

[Zorro!]

The President was right to bring up the Biden's apparent corruption with his fellow President. I too would like to see them look into it, I would like our US Attorneys to look into it ias well.

Now, even though the House impeachment managers are arguing about Biden corruption allegations in their Senate presentation, the two leaders of the House impeachment inquiry, Bug-eyed Schiff and Fat Jerry, took the position that Republican claims about the Bidens were irrelevant — a partisan red herring to distract from the “real” issues. They steadfastly refused to permit witnesses on that topic (including the Bidens themselves).

Moreover, the president was denied the right to have his counsel participate in the main investigative phase, run by Bug-eyed Schiff. So, even though Bug-eyed Schiff began the House hearings with an absurd parody version of the Trump–Zelensky conversation, falsely suggesting that Trump had asked Zelensky to “make up dirt” about Biden, the House denied the president the opportunity to prove that he was actually asking for help investigating activity that, objectively, appears quite suspicious and potentially corrupt.

It is a much different scenario if there was a real basis to believe the Bidens’ conduct should be scrutinized. Joe Biden is not immune from investigation just because he is running for president — certainly no more than the president himself is immune (which, obviously, he’s not).

The president has to be given an opportunity to prove his rebuttal case. A trial is not a trial, not in the American tradition, if prosecutors are permitted to level a serious accusation and then deny the accused the right to mount a defense.

Trump Impeachment Trial: Democrats’ Burisma Bait and Switch | National Review

 

[Slade3200]

The President was right to bring up the Biden's apparent corruption with his fellow President. I too would like to see them look into it, I would like our US Attorneys to look into it ias well.

Now, even though the House impeachment managers are arguing about Biden corruption allegations in their Senate presentation, the two leaders of the House impeachment inquiry, Bug-eyed Schiff and Fat Jerry, took the position that Republican claims about the Bidens were irrelevant — a partisan red herring to distract from the “real” issues. They steadfastly refused to permit witnesses on that topic (including the Bidens themselves).

Moreover, the president was denied the right to have his counsel participate in the main investigative phase, run by Bug-eyed Schiff. So, even though Bug-eyed Schiff began the House hearings with an absurd parody version of the Trump–Zelensky conversation, falsely suggesting that Trump had asked Zelensky to “make up dirt” about Biden, the House denied the president the opportunity to prove that he was actually asking for help investigating activity that, objectively, appears quite suspicious and potentially corrupt.

It is a much different scenario if there was a real basis to believe the Bidens’ conduct should be scrutinized. Joe Biden is not immune from investigation just because he is running for president — certainly no more than the president himself is immune (which, obviously, he’s not).

The president has to be given an opportunity to prove his rebuttal case. A trial is not a trial, not in the American tradition, if prosecutors are permitted to level a serious accusation and then deny the accused the right to mount a defense.

Trump Impeachment Trial: Democrats’ Burisma Bait and Switch | National Review

The president does have every right to justify his actions and interest in the Biden’s. I’m sure that’s going to be the focus on Monday. Hunter doesn’t need to testify for that though. We should not need new intel to justify old actions. Trump should lay out his case By showing what evidence he had to justify why an investigation was warranted and why going outside our normal system To ask Ukraine to announce it was the method he chose to take.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Burisma wanted Viktor Shokin fired because Shokin was investigating them. And quid pro Joe was happy to threaten Ukraine by withholding their aid from the US if Shokin wasn't fired!

Sounds just like the case that is being cooked up against Trump. How ironic.

I guess you Trump Humpers think if you keep repeating a lie it will become the truth. Hate to tell you this, but it's still a lie, no matter how many times you repeat it.

 

[Polishprince]

The President was right to bring up the Biden's apparent corruption with his fellow President. I too would like to see them look into it, I would like our US Attorneys to look into it ias well.

Now, even though the House impeachment managers are arguing about Biden corruption allegations in their Senate presentation, the two leaders of the House impeachment inquiry, Bug-eyed Schiff and Fat Jerry, took the position that Republican claims about the Bidens were irrelevant — a partisan red herring to distract from the “real” issues. They steadfastly refused to permit witnesses on that topic (including the Bidens themselves).

Moreover, the president was denied the right to have his counsel participate in the main investigative phase, run by Bug-eyed Schiff. So, even though Bug-eyed Schiff began the House hearings with an absurd parody version of the Trump–Zelensky conversation, falsely suggesting that Trump had asked Zelensky to “make up dirt” about Biden, the House denied the president the opportunity to prove that he was actually asking for help investigating activity that, objectively, appears quite suspicious and potentially corrupt.

It is a much different scenario if there was a real basis to believe the Bidens’ conduct should be scrutinized. Joe Biden is not immune from investigation just because he is running for president — certainly no more than the president himself is immune (which, obviously, he’s not).

The president has to be given an opportunity to prove his rebuttal case. A trial is not a trial, not in the American tradition, if prosecutors are permitted to level a serious accusation and then deny the accused the right to mount a defense.

Trump Impeachment Trial: Democrats’ Burisma Bait and Switch | National Review

The president does have every right to justify his actions and interest in the Biden’s. I’m sure that’s going to be the focus on Monday. Hunter doesn’t need to testify for that though. We should not need new intel to justify old actions. Trump should lay out his case By showing what evidence he had to justify why an investigation was warranted and why going outside our normal system To ask Ukraine to announce it was the method he chose to take.

Trump really doesn't have to lay out any case at all or testify.

He is presumed innocent, and the Libs have not proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. I think that there is reason to think that the Bidens are up to no good, particularly considering their involvement in the cocaine and prostitution rackets. And that is reasonable doubt.

 

[WEATHER53]

Obama is likely waist deep in this and probably why he has generally been quiet and not attacking Trump proportionally to the way House Dems, media have been savaging Trump
He doesn’t want to poke sticks or blow on embers, things flaring up that way would put a light on him.

 

[yidnar]

Oh yeah -

This too -

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

dude, you’re ranting... nobody cares about this obvious political smear tactic. Trumps games are not sly or well thought out. If the repeat game has you fooled then you’re more gullible than you think.

i stepped in shit in Frisco.

 

[Polishprince]

Oh yeah -

This too -

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

dude, you’re ranting... nobody cares about this obvious political smear tactic. Trumps games are not sly or well thought out. If the repeat game has you fooled then you’re more gullible than you think.

i stepped in shit in Frisco.

Never wear your Gucci loafers on the Streets of San Francisco. in recent years people have taken Otis Redding's tune about shitting on the Dock of the Bay very literally.

 

[Slade3200]

The President was right to bring up the Biden's apparent corruption with his fellow President. I too would like to see them look into it, I would like our US Attorneys to look into it ias well.

Now, even though the House impeachment managers are arguing about Biden corruption allegations in their Senate presentation, the two leaders of the House impeachment inquiry, Bug-eyed Schiff and Fat Jerry, took the position that Republican claims about the Bidens were irrelevant — a partisan red herring to distract from the “real” issues. They steadfastly refused to permit witnesses on that topic (including the Bidens themselves).

Moreover, the president was denied the right to have his counsel participate in the main investigative phase, run by Bug-eyed Schiff. So, even though Bug-eyed Schiff began the House hearings with an absurd parody version of the Trump–Zelensky conversation, falsely suggesting that Trump had asked Zelensky to “make up dirt” about Biden, the House denied the president the opportunity to prove that he was actually asking for help investigating activity that, objectively, appears quite suspicious and potentially corrupt.

It is a much different scenario if there was a real basis to believe the Bidens’ conduct should be scrutinized. Joe Biden is not immune from investigation just because he is running for president — certainly no more than the president himself is immune (which, obviously, he’s not).

The president has to be given an opportunity to prove his rebuttal case. A trial is not a trial, not in the American tradition, if prosecutors are permitted to level a serious accusation and then deny the accused the right to mount a defense.

Trump Impeachment Trial: Democrats’ Burisma Bait and Switch | National Review

The president does have every right to justify his actions and interest in the Biden’s. I’m sure that’s going to be the focus on Monday. Hunter doesn’t need to testify for that though. We should not need new intel to justify old actions. Trump should lay out his case By showing what evidence he had to justify why an investigation was warranted and why going outside our normal system To ask Ukraine to announce it was the method he chose to take.

Trump really doesn't have to lay out any case at all or testify.

He is presumed innocent, and the Libs have not proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. I think that there is reason to think that the Bidens are up to no good, particularly considering their involvement in the cocaine and prostitution rackets. And that is reasonable doubt.

No shit... did you read the post I was responding to? Try following the conversation if you’re gonna chime in.

 

[Slade3200]

Obama is likely waist deep in this and probably why he has generally been quiet and not attacking Trump proportionally to the way House Dems, media have been savaging Trump
He doesn’t want to poke sticks or blow on embers, things flaring up that way would put a light on him.

Obama hasn’t been popping off because he is respecting the transition of power like most all past presidents have done... Another tradition of etiquette that Trump is surly going to break.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh yeah -

This too -

By early 2016 the Ukrainian investigation had advanced enough that then-Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin authorized a court-ordered seizure of Zlochevsky’s home and other valuables, including a luxury car. That seizure occurred on Feb. 2, 2016, according to published reports in Ukraine.

The same day that the Zlochevsky seizure was announced in Ukraine, Hunter Biden used his Twitter account to start following Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a longtime national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under Secretary John Kerry.

The Feb. 4, 2016 Twitter notification from Hunter Biden to Blinken was captured by State email servers and turned over to me as part of the FOIA release.

Within a few weeks of Tramontano’s overture to Novelli and of Archer’s overture to Kerry, Vice President Joe Biden took a stunning action, one that has enveloped his 2020 campaign for president in controversy.

By his own admission in a 2018 speech, Joe Biden used the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid to strong-arm Ukraine into firing Shokin, a prosecutor that he and his office knew was investigating Burisma.

dude, you’re ranting... nobody cares about this obvious political smear tactic. Trumps games are not sly or well thought out. If the repeat game has you fooled then you’re more gullible than you think.

i stepped in shit in Frisco.

Trying looking before stepping.

 

[jameny5]

Hunter Biden and his Ukrainian gas firm colleagues had multiple contacts with the Obama State Department during the 2016 election cycle, including one just a month before Vice President Joe Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company for corruption, newly released memos show.

During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A. Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. (I filed that suit this summer with the help of the public interest law firm the Southeastern Legal Foundation.)

Just three weeks before Burisma’s overture to State, Ukrainian authorities raided the home of the oligarch who owned the gas firm and employed Hunter Biden, a signal the long-running corruption probe was escalating in the middle of the U.S. presidential election.

Hunter Biden’s name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply “Burisma.”

“Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption,” a Feb. 24, 2016, email between State officials read. “She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member).

Read more about the Biden Corruption - aided by the Obama State Department @



Burisma Pressured Obama Admin Weeks Before Joe Biden Got Ukrainian Prosecutor Fired

These idiots keep bringing up former officials to help the "corruption' King stay in office. Everybody in Donald Trump's circle and administration is guilty of crimes except the star of the show - Donald Fatboy Trump. <---- Everybody is guilty except him. How is he innocent and everyone else is guilty? Explain this to me!

 

[Zorro!]

The President was right to bring up the Biden's apparent corruption with his fellow President. I too would like to see them look into it, I would like our US Attorneys to look into it ias well.

Now, even though the House impeachment managers are arguing about Biden corruption allegations in their Senate presentation, the two leaders of the House impeachment inquiry, Bug-eyed Schiff and Fat Jerry, took the position that Republican claims about the Bidens were irrelevant — a partisan red herring to distract from the “real” issues. They steadfastly refused to permit witnesses on that topic (including the Bidens themselves).

Moreover, the president was denied the right to have his counsel participate in the main investigative phase, run by Bug-eyed Schiff. So, even though Bug-eyed Schiff began the House hearings with an absurd parody version of the Trump–Zelensky conversation, falsely suggesting that Trump had asked Zelensky to “make up dirt” about Biden, the House denied the president the opportunity to prove that he was actually asking for help investigating activity that, objectively, appears quite suspicious and potentially corrupt.

It is a much different scenario if there was a real basis to believe the Bidens’ conduct should be scrutinized. Joe Biden is not immune from investigation just because he is running for president — certainly no more than the president himself is immune (which, obviously, he’s not).

The president has to be given an opportunity to prove his rebuttal case. A trial is not a trial, not in the American tradition, if prosecutors are permitted to level a serious accusation and then deny the accused the right to mount a defense.

Trump Impeachment Trial: Democrats’ Burisma Bait and Switch | National Review

The president does have every right to justify his actions and interest in the Biden’s. I’m sure that’s going to be the focus on Monday. Hunter doesn’t need to testify for that though. We should not need new intel to justify old actions. Trump should lay out his case By showing what evidence he had to justify why an investigation was warranted and why going outside our normal system To ask Ukraine to announce it was the method he chose to take.

Trump really doesn't have to lay out any case at all or testify.

He is presumed innocent, and the Libs have not proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. I think that there is reason to think that the Bidens are up to no good, particularly considering their involvement in the cocaine and prostitution rackets. And that is reasonable doubt.

Yes. If it was reasonable to suggest looking into the Biden's their entire case is in shambles. And most certainly it was reasonable to view the Biden Extortion and Bribery scheme as worth looking into. Potentially they have violated both US and Ukraine law.

 

[Slade3200]

The President was right to bring up the Biden's apparent corruption with his fellow President. I too would like to see them look into it, I would like our US Attorneys to look into it ias well.

Now, even though the House impeachment managers are arguing about Biden corruption allegations in their Senate presentation, the two leaders of the House impeachment inquiry, Bug-eyed Schiff and Fat Jerry, took the position that Republican claims about the Bidens were irrelevant — a partisan red herring to distract from the “real” issues. They steadfastly refused to permit witnesses on that topic (including the Bidens themselves).

Moreover, the president was denied the right to have his counsel participate in the main investigative phase, run by Bug-eyed Schiff. So, even though Bug-eyed Schiff began the House hearings with an absurd parody version of the Trump–Zelensky conversation, falsely suggesting that Trump had asked Zelensky to “make up dirt” about Biden, the House denied the president the opportunity to prove that he was actually asking for help investigating activity that, objectively, appears quite suspicious and potentially corrupt.

It is a much different scenario if there was a real basis to believe the Bidens’ conduct should be scrutinized. Joe Biden is not immune from investigation just because he is running for president — certainly no more than the president himself is immune (which, obviously, he’s not).

The president has to be given an opportunity to prove his rebuttal case. A trial is not a trial, not in the American tradition, if prosecutors are permitted to level a serious accusation and then deny the accused the right to mount a defense.

Trump Impeachment Trial: Democrats’ Burisma Bait and Switch | National Review

The president does have every right to justify his actions and interest in the Biden’s. I’m sure that’s going to be the focus on Monday. Hunter doesn’t need to testify for that though. We should not need new intel to justify old actions. Trump should lay out his case By showing what evidence he had to justify why an investigation was warranted and why going outside our normal system To ask Ukraine to announce it was the method he chose to take.

Trump really doesn't have to lay out any case at all or testify.

He is presumed innocent, and the Libs have not proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. I think that there is reason to think that the Bidens are up to no good, particularly considering their involvement in the cocaine and prostitution rackets. And that is reasonable doubt.

Yes. If it was reasonable to suggest looking into the Biden's their entire case is in shambles. And most certainly it was reasonable to view the Biden Extortion and Bribery scheme as worth looking into. Potentially they have violated both US and Ukraine law.

you wisely say “potentially” because you know nothing has been proven. You say it was worth looking into because you support Trump and the Dems say it wasn’t proper because both the DNC server and the Biden situations have been looked into and nothing was found. So unless Trump can explain why he used his office to go after his political opponents in such an unorthodox way then he is in trouble.