Bureau of Land Management vs Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, and the US Constitution

[Camp]

The EPA ordered them to stop building their home on a lake.........This lake home was not listed on their wet land maps....All construction permits were approved and construction had begun.........................and the EPA showed up with their intimidation....ordered immediate restoration of the property to previous condition..............racked up fines in the MILLIONS when they tried to challenge in court....................

Went on to the SUPREME COURT..........where the EPA LOST......................

ABUSE OF THE EPA on a couple...................WHO STOOD THEIR GROUND AND WON.................

BRAVO ZULU SACKETTS.

What does this case have to do with the BLM or public lands of any kind?

It has to do with FEDERAL AGENCIES BOTH ABUSING POWERS...........................the BLM is a Federal Agency...........the EPA is a Federal Agency..................................

Do you agree with what they are doing here.............................................................

Do you agree with what they tried in Texas............................................................

Do you agree with what they did to the small family with a pond..........................

Do you agree with the Chicken man, RIP, story....................................................

COME THE **** ON..............SAY GOV'T IS GOOD..................

None of it gave Lavoy "Festus Slow Draw" the right to participate in an armed takeover of a National Wildlife Refuge and get in a gun fight with the guys wearing badges.

 

[Contumacious]

Yeah right , we have "courts" populated and controlled by the fascist/socialist faction.

have you ever run for elective office old man?

I am an honest , freedom loving man hence I could not run for office.

The ONLY way to be considered electable in US politics is by appealing to the voters envy and parasitic tendencies.

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[Contumacious]

Are you blind to tyranny in real life or just online?

Are you a member of the federal gestapo?

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to what tyranny, specifically, do you think i'm blind?

Yep - also naive and stupid

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no no no... you don't get to claim there's tyranny and then duck out from naming it.

what tyranny do you believe i am not seeing?

You are one of Comrade Bernard guys - you thrive when a bureaucrat has his digits up your nostrils.


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You're the boy that cried tyranny. just try, chicken-little, to explain what you mean by tyranny

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[Dot Com]

Yeah right , we have "courts" populated and controlled by the fascist/socialist faction.

have you ever run for elective office old man?

I am an honest , freedom loving man hence I could not run for office.

The ONLY way to be considered electable in US politics is by appealing to the voters envy and parasitic tendencies.

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THEN you need to drink a heaping mug full of STFU about the way the gov't is structured because you couldn't "man-up" to run for office and play a part to craft it

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/end thread

 

[Contumacious]

Wyoming welder faces $75,000 a day in EPA fines for building pond on his property | Fox News

All Andy Johnson wanted to do was build a stock pond on his sprawling eight-acre Wyoming farm. He and his wife Katie spent hours constructing it, filling it with crystal-clear water, and bringing in brook and brown trout, ducks and geese. It was a place where his horses could drink and graze, and a private playground for his three children.

But instead of enjoying the fruits of his labor, the Wyoming welder says he was harangued by the federal government, stuck in what he calls a petty power play by the Environmental Protection Agency. He claims the agency is now threatening him with civil and criminal penalties – including the threat of a $75,000-a-day fine.

“I have not paid them a dime nor will I,” a defiant Johnson told FoxNews.com. “I will go bankrupt if I have to fighting it. My wife and I built [the pond] together. We put our blood, sweat and tears into it. It was our dream.”

But Johnson may be in for a rude awakening.

Regardless of the outcome, Johnson says his legal fight with the government agency is a teachable moment for his kids

“This is showing them that they shouldn’t back down,” Johnson said. “If you need to stand up and fight, you do it.”

another dumbass that thinks rules don't apply to him

The rules apply to the federal government.

But since they are armed and dangerous they think that the rules don't apply to them. In addition they control the federal "judiciary"

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[ScienceRocks]

A republican started our national parks and aimed to prodect wild life. I think it is one of the greatest things the party ever did.

All you loserterian freaks that want to wipe out everything below humans are near sighted idiots.

 

[eagle1462010]

The EPA ordered them to stop building their home on a lake.........This lake home was not listed on their wet land maps....All construction permits were approved and construction had begun.........................and the EPA showed up with their intimidation....ordered immediate restoration of the property to previous condition..............racked up fines in the MILLIONS when they tried to challenge in court....................

Went on to the SUPREME COURT..........where the EPA LOST......................

ABUSE OF THE EPA on a couple...................WHO STOOD THEIR GROUND AND WON.................

BRAVO ZULU SACKETTS.

What does this case have to do with the BLM or public lands of any kind?

It has to do with FEDERAL AGENCIES BOTH ABUSING POWERS...........................the BLM is a Federal Agency...........the EPA is a Federal Agency..................................

Do you agree with what they are doing here.............................................................

Do you agree with what they tried in Texas............................................................

Do you agree with what they did to the small family with a pond..........................

Do you agree with the Chicken man, RIP, story....................................................

COME THE **** ON..............SAY GOV'T IS GOOD..................

None of it gave Lavoy "Festus Slow Draw" the right to participate in an armed takeover of a National Wildlife Refuge and get in a gun fight with the guys wearing badges.

Did the abuses in these cases show GOV'T OVER REACH.................................ABUSE OF POWER............step up...................

Why have NONE OF YOU COMMENTED ON THE DANN SISTERS......................They slaughtered their horses and cattle...............................................just as they did Bundy's..........................................

The men going to JAIL.................for burning,.................None of you PUNKS say a damn word about the video of the BLM burning the cattle and the ranchers land and structures.................

NOT A PEEP............................Is THAT JUSTICE........................

 

[Contumacious]

Yeah right , we have "courts" populated and controlled by the fascist/socialist faction.

have you ever run for elective office old man?

I am an honest , freedom loving man hence I could not run for office.

The ONLY way to be considered electable in US politics is by appealing to the voters envy and parasitic tendencies.

.

THEN you need to drink a heaping mug full of STFU about the way the gov't is structured because you couldn't "man-up" to run for office and play a part to craft it

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/end thread

You have to be criminally insane in order to play a part to craft it.

 

[Contumacious]

A republican started our national parks and aimed to prodect wild life. I think it is one of the greatest things the party ever did.

All you loserterian freaks that want to wipe out everything below humans are near sighted idiots.

GEE, STUPID ****

I HAVE NOT SEEN A CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISO PROVIDING FEDGOV THE AUTHORITY TO "PROTECT WILD LIFE AND BURN CATTLE"

HAVE YOU?

 

[eagle1462010]

A republican started our national parks and aimed to prodect wild life. I think it is one of the greatest things the party ever did.

All you loserterian freaks that want to wipe out everything below humans are near sighted idiots.

How to you protect these lands when you slaughter the animals on them...................put up massive solar grids on them............kill the turtles............ABUSE the WILD MUSTANGS and BURROS..............

Attacking simple HOME OWNERS...................for building a home on a lake...........for building a pond.

OBAMA JUST GAVE THE EPA MORE POWER..................He's gone soon..........and he can take his ******* pen and a phone with him along with that executive order.

 

[Contumacious]

A republican started our national parks and aimed to prodect wild life. I think it is one of the greatest things the party ever did.

All you loserterian freaks that want to wipe out everything below humans are near sighted idiots.

How to you protect these lands when you slaughter the animals on them...................put up massive solar grids on them............kill the turtles............ABUSE the WILD MUSTANGS and BURROS..............

Attacking simple HOME OWNERS...................for building a home on a lake...........for building a pond.

OBAMA JUST GAVE THE EPA MORE POWER..................He's gone soon..........and he can take his ******* pen and a phone with him along with that executive order.

The only farm animals owned by the socialist opposition are rats and cockroaches.


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[ogibillm]

to what tyranny, specifically, do you think i'm blind?

Yep - also naive and stupid

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no no no... you don't get to claim there's tyranny and then duck out from naming it.

what tyranny do you believe i am not seeing?

You are one of Comrade Bernard guys - you thrive when a bureaucrat has his digits up your nostrils.


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You're the boy that cried tyranny. just try, chicken-little, to explain what you mean by tyranny

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

you are one stupid ************.

does it bother you even a little that you can get so worked up over 'tyranny' but can't even explain what you mean by it?

 

[Contumacious]

Yep - also naive and stupid

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no no no... you don't get to claim there's tyranny and then duck out from naming it.

what tyranny do you believe i am not seeing?

You are one of Comrade Bernard guys - you thrive when a bureaucrat has his digits up your nostrils.


.

You're the boy that cried tyranny. just try, chicken-little, to explain what you mean by tyranny

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

you are one stupid ************.

does it bother you even a little that you can get so worked up over 'tyranny' but can't even explain what you mean by it?

you are one stupid ************.

 

[eagle1462010]

A republican started our national parks and aimed to prodect wild life. I think it is one of the greatest things the party ever did.

All you loserterian freaks that want to wipe out everything below humans are near sighted idiots.

How to you protect these lands when you slaughter the animals on them...................put up massive solar grids on them............kill the turtles............ABUSE the WILD MUSTANGS and BURROS..............

Attacking simple HOME OWNERS...................for building a home on a lake...........for building a pond.

OBAMA JUST GAVE THE EPA MORE POWER..................He's gone soon..........and he can take his ******* pen and a phone with him along with that executive order.

The only farm animals owned by the socialist opposition are rats and cockroaches.


.

Notice how they divert the story after story of Gov't abuse..........If they'd have watched the Dann sisters video My Land My Life......they didn't just kill the horses and cattle........Many of them were STARVED.............They didn't humanly put them down.

In the horse round up they whipped them.......kicked them.........ran them into barbed wire fences with a helicopter......I posted video's showing the horses with their faces cut open during the round ups.............

Amazing how they don't want to get into that part....................

 

[eagle1462010]

no no no... you don't get to claim there's tyranny and then duck out from naming it.

what tyranny do you believe i am not seeing?

You are one of Comrade Bernard guys - you thrive when a bureaucrat has his digits up your nostrils.


.

You're the boy that cried tyranny. just try, chicken-little, to explain what you mean by tyranny

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

you are one stupid ************.

does it bother you even a little that you can get so worked up over 'tyranny' but can't even explain what you mean by it?

you are one stupid ************.

Which iggied poster are you talking to........Can't see him or her.......LOL

 

[eagle1462010]

Another Cattle farmer.....................Another case of Abuse........

Rancher fights $16 million EPA fine for building pond

A rancher who obtained the state permits he needed for a stock pond on his acreage near Fort Bridger, Wyoming, then received approval from the state when it was finished now is facing the possibility of fines totaling millions of dollars because he didn’t get a permit from the federal government.

A lawsuit filed against the Environmental Protection Agency on Thursday, however, argues federal law clearly exempts stock ponds from EPA rules, so he shouldn’t even have had to contact the agency.

EPA officials at the agency’s Denver office told WND they could not comment on the lawsuit filed in federal court in Wyoming by the Pacific Legal Foundation.

The foundation is representing Wyoming rancher Andy Johnson against the EPA compliance order threatening him with $37,500 in fines per day. During the 14 months that Johnson has contested the EPA’s claim, his potential liability has risen to more than $16 million.

 

[Dot Com]

Yeah right , we have "courts" populated and controlled by the fascist/socialist faction.

have you ever run for elective office old man?

I am an honest , freedom loving man hence I could not run for office.

The ONLY way to be considered electable in US politics is by appealing to the voters envy and parasitic tendencies.

.

THEN you need to drink a heaping mug full of STFU about the way the gov't is structured because you couldn't "man-up" to run for office and play a part to craft it

unsubbed

/end thread

You have to be criminally insane in order to play a part to craft it.

wrong tinkerbell. You basement dweller-types are too scared to change the system using the rules passed down from the Framers. Instead you want everything your way or else

Well I got news for you cletus

 

[Contumacious]

A republican started our national parks and aimed to prodect wild life. I think it is one of the greatest things the party ever did.

All you loserterian freaks that want to wipe out everything below humans are near sighted idiots.

How to you protect these lands when you slaughter the animals on them...................put up massive solar grids on them............kill the turtles............ABUSE the WILD MUSTANGS and BURROS..............

Attacking simple HOME OWNERS...................for building a home on a lake...........for building a pond.

OBAMA JUST GAVE THE EPA MORE POWER..................He's gone soon..........and he can take his ******* pen and a phone with him along with that executive order.

The only farm animals owned by the socialist opposition are rats and cockroaches.


.

Notice how they divert the story after story of Gov't abuse..........If they'd have watched the Dann sisters video My Land My Life......they didn't just kill the horses and cattle........Many of them were STARVED.............They didn't humanly put them down.

In the horse round up they whipped them.......kicked them.........ran them into barbed wire fences with a helicopter......I posted video's showing the horses with their faces cut open during the round ups.............

Amazing how they don't want to get into that part....................

I understand.

But the Berners are ONLY interested in what the government wants . The ONLY rights that WE THE PEOPLE have are those allowed by the socialist state.

From their standpoint, the Dann Sisters are irrelevant.

Sad but true

 

[Dot Com]

Yep - also naive and stupid

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no no no... you don't get to claim there's tyranny and then duck out from naming it.

what tyranny do you believe i am not seeing?

You are one of Comrade Bernard guys - you thrive when a bureaucrat has his digits up your nostrils.


.

You're the boy that cried tyranny. just try, chicken-little, to explain what you mean by tyranny

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

you are one stupid ************.

does it bother you even a little that you can get so worked up over 'tyranny' but can't even explain what you mean by it?

in his defense, he's a typical basement- dwelling lolibertarian

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is what sparked the latest exchange.

Judge sends Oregon ranchers back to prison

A federal judge in Eugene, Ore., gave the father and son credit for time served but ordered them to serve the remainder of their mandatory five-year sentences for burning BLM rangeland.

And the Hammonds chose to comply. In fact, they told the militia they didn't want them there and they wouldn't be speaking for them if they stayed.