British Scientist Whose Doomsday COVID-19 Model Panicked Governments Repudiates His Model

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No one has been denied a respirator. No one has had to decied who gets it while deciding who dies. All the death and destruction still hasn't come.
How do you know this? Do you know the decisions made by every hospital across the country?

And if this were the case, you would nut on your key board and post a link. All that talk is drama queen bullshit.
 

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Never heard of the guy or his model. I doubt most people making any decisions have either.
 

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So...the guy says that if countries do not lock people down the virus will kill millions...and thus countries lock people down and now the expected death count is far less...would that not show that locking people down was effective?
Wow, really? Really? Did you read the article? BTW, Sweden has not locked down their population, nor closed their schools, etc., etc., and their infection and death rates are better than or comparable to those of many other nations, including nations that have taken drastic measures.
Even Cuomo now admits closing all these entities was overreach.

The liberals are losing fast on this.
someone is losing....

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And if this were the case, you would nut on your key board and post a link. All that talk is drama queen bullshit.
I already know it is the case. Amazing what you find out being married to a Critical Care nurse and having a daughter that is an ER nurse.
 

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Never heard of the guy or his model. I doubt most people making any decisions have either.

You hear about it every day. It's what the media used to scare the fuck out of the country and shut our economy down.
 

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Never heard of the guy or his model. I doubt most people making any decisions have either.

You hear about it every day. It's what the media used to scare the fuck out of the country and shut our economy down.
Thankfully I don't pay any attention to fake news. Always pays off...
 

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The OP just shot the Trump narrative in the ass.

That horrendous death toll was one where social distancing etc. was not practiced. Where we go back to work too soon

The better outcome is one where we do what you idiots are fighting
funny our Gov is claiming 80% of us will get it despite the lockdown. He's just trying to buy time. .Sorta closes the door on trying to claim he saved us when these lies don't own out.
 

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Maybe, but the biggest take away is it isn't right. When that came out on the news along with the fact that no patients have been denied a ventilator or that no "death panels" have been mobilized as of yet, you could just see the excitement and joy drain out of the dumb info-bimbos faces. The media looks stupid again.
Well, yes there are patients that need a ventilator that don't have one. 20% of the hospitals surveyed said they did not have enough right now.
That does not take into account other PPE gear. Nurses are using the same mask for days in a row because they have no more. At my wife's hospital doctors are making decisions based upon how much PPE gear will be used.

And all this is what has taken place with much of the country on "lock-down", which was the point of us doing this, to avoid the hospitals being overwhelmed.

Once again you are using the positive that has come from the actions to prove they were not needed, which is very dishonest.
I dont know what the professor was basing his calculations on.

was he trying to guess how many ventilators are available?

how could he know that?

or was he making a scientific calculation of how lethal the chinese virus is?

the report does not say.

but clearly the academic is admitting he was wrong about something
 

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Maybe, but the biggest take away is it isn't right. When that came out on the news along with the fact that no patients have been denied a ventilator or that no "death panels" have been mobilized as of yet, you could just see the excitement and joy drain out of the dumb info-bimbos faces. The media looks stupid again.
Well, yes there are patients that need a ventilator that don't have one. 20% of the hospitals surveyed said they did not have enough right now.
That does not take into account other PPE gear. Nurses are using the same mask for days in a row because they have no more. At my wife's hospital doctors are making decisions based upon how much PPE gear will be used.

And all this is what has taken place with much of the country on "lock-down", which was the point of us doing this, to avoid the hospitals being overwhelmed.

Once again you are using the positive that has come from the actions to prove they were not needed, which is very dishonest.

No they aren't using the same PPE day after day that's just bull shit.
 

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On WGN TV last night, the doctor on their 10:00PM hour broadcast completely ignored this repudiation, and instead went on a diatribe of quarantine count vs non-quarantine count and used the same numbers as originally mentioned, 2 million without quarantine. Out right perpetuating a lie. Wow, no integrity anymore. It has shriveled up and died.
 

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Maybe, but the biggest take away is it isn't right. When that came out on the news along with the fact that no patients have been denied a ventilator or that no "death panels" have been mobilized as of yet, you could just see the excitement and joy drain out of the dumb info-bimbos faces. The media looks stupid again.
Well, yes there are patients that need a ventilator that don't have one. 20% of the hospitals surveyed said they did not have enough right now.
That does not take into account other PPE gear. Nurses are using the same mask for days in a row because they have no more. At my wife's hospital doctors are making decisions based upon how much PPE gear will be used.

And all this is what has taken place with much of the country on "lock-down", which was the point of us doing this, to avoid the hospitals being overwhelmed.

Once again you are using the positive that has come from the actions to prove they were not needed, which is very dishonest.

No they aren't using the same PPE day after day that's just bull shit.
Actually, yes they are. I know an ER nurse in Ky that used the same N-95 mask 3 straight days because they were totally out of them.

At my wife's hospital the doctors are making decisions about procedures partially based on how much PPE gear will be used up in the process.

You are clueless to what is happening in the world because you live in the echo chamber of the far right and they will never tell you the truth.

You truly have no clue what you are talking about.
 

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Maybe, but the biggest take away is it isn't right. When that came out on the news along with the fact that no patients have been denied a ventilator or that no "death panels" have been mobilized as of yet, you could just see the excitement and joy drain out of the dumb info-bimbos faces. The media looks stupid again.
Well, yes there are patients that need a ventilator that don't have one. 20% of the hospitals surveyed said they did not have enough right now.
That does not take into account other PPE gear. Nurses are using the same mask for days in a row because they have no more. At my wife's hospital doctors are making decisions based upon how much PPE gear will be used.

And all this is what has taken place with much of the country on "lock-down", which was the point of us doing this, to avoid the hospitals being overwhelmed.

Once again you are using the positive that has come from the actions to prove they were not needed, which is very dishonest.

No they aren't using the same PPE day after day that's just bull shit.
So the stories of healthcare providers slathering masks with hand sanitizer so they can be reused are being made up? For what purpose?
 

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Maybe, but the biggest take away is it isn't right. When that came out on the news along with the fact that no patients have been denied a ventilator or that no "death panels" have been mobilized as of yet, you could just see the excitement and joy drain out of the dumb info-bimbos faces. The media looks stupid again.
Well, yes there are patients that need a ventilator that don't have one. 20% of the hospitals surveyed said they did not have enough right now.
That does not take into account other PPE gear. Nurses are using the same mask for days in a row because they have no more. At my wife's hospital doctors are making decisions based upon how much PPE gear will be used.

And all this is what has taken place with much of the country on "lock-down", which was the point of us doing this, to avoid the hospitals being overwhelmed.

Once again you are using the positive that has come from the actions to prove they were not needed, which is very dishonest.

No they aren't using the same PPE day after day that's just bull shit.
So the stories of healthcare providers slathering masks with hand sanitizer so they can be reused are being made up? For what purpose?
Don't you know, it is all a grand conspiracy just to make Trump look bad.
 

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Maybe, but the biggest take away is it isn't right. When that came out on the news along with the fact that no patients have been denied a ventilator or that no "death panels" have been mobilized as of yet, you could just see the excitement and joy drain out of the dumb info-bimbos faces. The media looks stupid again.
Well, yes there are patients that need a ventilator that don't have one. 20% of the hospitals surveyed said they did not have enough right now.
That does not take into account other PPE gear. Nurses are using the same mask for days in a row because they have no more. At my wife's hospital doctors are making decisions based upon how much PPE gear will be used.

And all this is what has taken place with much of the country on "lock-down", which was the point of us doing this, to avoid the hospitals being overwhelmed.

Once again you are using the positive that has come from the actions to prove they were not needed, which is very dishonest.

No they aren't using the same PPE day after day that's just bull shit.
So the stories of healthcare providers slathering masks with hand sanitizer so they can be reused are being made up? For what purpose?
Don't you know, it is all a grand conspiracy just to make Trump look bad.
Jesus H Christ on a raft. Trump is irrelevant at this point. He doesn't matter at all. I would happily give him four more years if not one more person sickened and died of this.
 

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Maybe, but the biggest take away is it isn't right. When that came out on the news along with the fact that no patients have been denied a ventilator or that no "death panels" have been mobilized as of yet, you could just see the excitement and joy drain out of the dumb info-bimbos faces. The media looks stupid again.
Well, yes there are patients that need a ventilator that don't have one. 20% of the hospitals surveyed said they did not have enough right now.
That does not take into account other PPE gear. Nurses are using the same mask for days in a row because they have no more. At my wife's hospital doctors are making decisions based upon how much PPE gear will be used.

And all this is what has taken place with much of the country on "lock-down", which was the point of us doing this, to avoid the hospitals being overwhelmed.

Once again you are using the positive that has come from the actions to prove they were not needed, which is very dishonest.

No they aren't using the same PPE day after day that's just bull shit.
So the stories of healthcare providers slathering masks with hand sanitizer so they can be reused are being made up? For what purpose?
Don't you know, it is all a grand conspiracy just to make Trump look bad.
Jesus H Christ on a raft. Trump is irrelevant at this point. He doesn't matter at all. I would happily give him four more years if not one more person sickened and died of this.
but to these people Trump is all that matters, there is nothing else in their world
 

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This is rather stunning: Dr. Neil Ferguson, the British scientist whose scary COVID-19 model caused many governments to take drastic measures, has now repudiated his model. Ferguson predicted that 2.2 million Americans and 500,000 Brits would die from the virus if drastic measures were not taken. But now Ferguson is saying that British deaths will be no more than 20,000, which is 96% lower than his original prediction.

As of this morning, depending on which source you use, England has had between 463 and 578 COVID-19 deaths. To get to 20,000 deaths, England would have to see a dramatic spike in the death rate over the next 8 months. But, if Dr. Ferguson's revised prediction of 20,000 deaths (instead of 500,000 deaths) in England proves accurate, 20,000 deaths would be only 0.031% of England's population (66 million), or far below 1% of the population.

Drastic measure were taken, so of course his prediction changed. ("If drastic measures were not taken...")
 
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Never heard of the guy or his model. I doubt most people making any decisions have either.
LOL! You didn't read the article, did you? Yes, as the article notes, government leaders in the U.S. and England have paid a lot of attention to Ferguson's model. The doomsday group COVID Act Now has relied heavily on Ferguson's model.

Where in the world do you get your news?
 

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