British men accused of date rape must now prove a woman said Yes

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Get it in writing.

This might be a good thing. Maybe men and women will get married again.
 
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Get it in writing.

This might be a good thing. Maybe men and women will get married again.
That is ridiculous. What are you suggesting, a sexual exchange contract? Surely you are joking.

I am not for this degenerate hook up culture. But this won't increase marriage rates, people hooking up in bars for one night stands aren't looking to get married. This isn't about marriage, these radical feminists don't care about promoting marriage and family. But innocent men will get caught up in the absurdity of this law and be left vulnerable to women with ill will.
 
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This totally undermines one of the main precepts of any western justice system, innocent until proven guilty. There should be more outrage over this.
 

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Get it in writing.

This might be a good thing. Maybe men and women will get married again.
That is ridiculous. What are you suggesting, a sexual exchange contract? Surely you are joking.

I am not for this degenerate hook up culture. But this won't increase marriage rates, people hooking up in bars for one night stands aren't looking to get married. This isn't about marriage, these radical feminists don't care about promoting marriage and family. But innocent men will get caught up in the absurdity of this law and be left vulnerable to women with ill will.
I wouldn't like to see romance reduced to the written word but that's where this is headed.
 

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Men should forget about marriage and dating. Hire a whore. It will be much cheaper.
 

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But innocent men will get caught up in the absurdity of this law and be left vulnerable to women with ill will.
There are far fewer women with "ill will" than there are rapists who get away with it. So few rapes are reported, and even fewer are prosecuted, that rape laws have become a joke. With the use of date rape drugs, women make poor witnesses because their memory is compromised and the drugs clear their system within 5 hours of being administered so by the time they get to the hospital, the evidence they were drugged, is gone.
 
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But innocent men will get caught up in the absurdity of this law and be left vulnerable to women with ill will.
There are far fewer women with "ill will" than there are rapists who get away with it. So few rapes are reported, and even fewer are prosecuted, that rape laws have become a joke. With the use of date rape drugs, women make poor witnesses because their memory is compromised and the drugs clear their system within 5 hours of being administered so by the time they get to the hospital, the evidence they were drugged, is gone.
The fact is, your claims are entirely unsubstantiated. And the shame is, common law legal principles like innocent until proven guilty are overturned on these unsubstantiated claims.
 

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But innocent men will get caught up in the absurdity of this law and be left vulnerable to women with ill will.
There are far fewer women with "ill will" than there are rapists who get away with it. So few rapes are reported, and even fewer are prosecuted, that rape laws have become a joke. With the use of date rape drugs, women make poor witnesses because their memory is compromised and the drugs clear their system within 5 hours of being administered so by the time they get to the hospital, the evidence they were drugged, is gone.
The fact is, your claims are entirely unsubstantiated. And the shame is, common law legal principles like innocent until proven guilty are overturned on these unsubstantiated claims.
Unsubstantiated???? Study after study, report after report shows that rapists are getting away with it. Somewhere between 1 and 3% of rapists are ever punished, which means that 97 to 99% of rapists get away with it.

97 of Every 100 Rapists Receive No Punishment RAINN Analysis Shows RAINN Rape Abuse and Incest National Network

100 000 assaults. 1 000 rapists sentenced. Shockingly low conviction rates revealed - Crime - UK - The Independent

The truth about a viral graphic on rape statistics - The Washington Post

Rape is a private crime in that usually only the rapist and his victim are present, so in court, it's her word against his. The man is calm, in control. The woman is upset, crying. He says she consented. She says otherwise.

Women who have been drugged have it very hard, since they are such poor witnesses. Date rape drugs mess with memory, so the women are poor witnesses. Unless there is film evidence (video surveillance cameras) showing the man leaving with the woman, she will be unable to give compelling testimony about anything. And the drugs are undetectable after about 5 hours.
 
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But innocent men will get caught up in the absurdity of this law and be left vulnerable to women with ill will.
There are far fewer women with "ill will" than there are rapists who get away with it. So few rapes are reported, and even fewer are prosecuted, that rape laws have become a joke. With the use of date rape drugs, women make poor witnesses because their memory is compromised and the drugs clear their system within 5 hours of being administered so by the time they get to the hospital, the evidence they were drugged, is gone.
The fact is, your claims are entirely unsubstantiated. And the shame is, common law legal principles like innocent until proven guilty are overturned on these unsubstantiated claims.
Unsubstantiated???? Study after study, report after report shows that rapists are getting away with it. Somewhere between 1 and 3% of rapists are ever punished, which means that 97 to 99% of rapists get away with it.

97 of Every 100 Rapists Receive No Punishment RAINN Analysis Shows RAINN Rape Abuse and Incest National Network

100 000 assaults. 1 000 rapists sentenced. Shockingly low conviction rates revealed - Crime - UK - The Independent

The truth about a viral graphic on rape statistics - The Washington Post

Rape is a private crime in that usually only the rapist and his victim are present, so in court, it's her word against his. The man is calm, in control. The woman is upset, crying. He says she consented. She says otherwise.

Women who have been drugged have it very hard, since they are such poor witnesses. Date rape drugs mess with memory, so the women are poor witnesses. Unless there is film evidence (video surveillance cameras) showing the man leaving with the woman, she will be unable to give compelling testimony about anything. And the drugs are undetectable after about 5 hours.
Alleged rapists. If they aren't convicted, they aren't rapists. Sorry, I can't take your links seriously since they make no effort to delineate between those accused and those convicted, and label every man accused of rape, a rapist.

But thank you for exposing the "with hunt" mindset behind this law. They assume all men are guilty until proven innocent. Therefore, laws like this don't bother you.
 

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