Bribery is a loser

this is what happens when you only look at part of the facts and ignore the rest because it changes your desired outcome,,

here is a link to kent saying yes to an investigation,,,

Democrats' Star Witness Admitted Burisma Should Be Investigated
That’s an investigation into the CEO of Burisma who was suspected of stealing money... that’s not a Biden investigation. You are twisting the narrative and not being honest. Nice try.


biden worked for burisma so he would be included since he got some of the money,,,
Uh no...

And ongoing when he joined.

Yeah, Hunter decided it was a good idea
to work for a foreign company being criminally investigated
owned by a man with criminal charges pending
and decided to continue there after his boss
became a wanted fugitive when he fled to Russia

Joe wasn't aware...envoy to Ukraine...Got it
What a pity you can't prove that.

Meanwhile, in 2015, the U.K. had to unfreeze $23.5 million of Zlochevsky's frozen assets because Shokin refused to cooperate with them for a year.
Uh, what proof are you looking for?

Meanwhile, Shokin didn't refuse to cooperate for a year...
He took over after Yarema was fired FOR STALLING
and Shokin complaining about what was going on
Shokin took over in February of 2015, sorry charlie
Shokin was given the Zlochevsky case in 2014...

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.


And in January, 2016, 2 months before Biden got Shokin fired, Shokin made news for doing too little to fight corruption and specifically on the Zlochevsky case...

Kiev's Heavyweight Boxing Champ Mayor Wants to Knock Out Corruption in Ukraine

In September, American ambassador to Kiev Geoffrey Pyatt called out Shokin in front of business leaders gathered in the Ukrainian city of Odessa. Shokin's staff, said Pyatt, were "openly and aggressively undermining reform."

"There is one glaring problem that threatens all of the good work that regional leaders here in Odessa, in Kharkiv, in Lviv and elsewhere are doing," said Pyatt. "That obstacle is the failure of the institution of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine to successfully fight internal corruption."

Pyatt went on to highlight allegations levied against former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is also the owner of the energy company Burisma Holdings. Zlochevsky is accused of stealing $23 million — money that was order seized by a UK court. Shokin's office has been slow to assist British authorities, which Pyatt condemned.
 
By exposing a corrupt American politician? Why would that be a problem for you, Lesh?

Sorry but Trump wasn't exposing much of anything since there was no corruption to expose.

HIS actions were the corrupt ones.HE (Trump) was trying to force Ukraine into opening an investigation against his political opponent that had no more basis than the one Comey opened ...and then closed....days before the 2016 election.

He was also letting his buddy Rudy the Ghoul and Rick Perry try to take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine...but that's more Rudy and Rick's problem

Just to remind you folks.

Biden got a CORRUPT prosecutor removed. There are claims that this corrupt prosecutor was investigating Biden's son...or the company he worked for. Those claims are lies. Shokin was NOT doing anything of the kind.

YOU are lying. Please stop

So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
 
And ongoing when he joined.

Yeah, Hunter decided it was a good idea
to work for a foreign company being criminally investigated
owned by a man with criminal charges pending
and decided to continue there after his boss
became a wanted fugitive when he fled to Russia

Joe wasn't aware...envoy to Ukraine...Got it
What a pity you can't prove that.

Meanwhile, in 2015, the U.K. had to unfreeze $23.5 million of Zlochevsky's frozen assets because Shokin refused to cooperate with them for a year.


LIAR,,, shokin refused to drop the case against them and thats why joe had him fired,,,then under joes orders they returned the money to them,,,
Liar, Shokin refused to cooperate with U.K.'s investigation into Burisma's owner.....

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
Bullshit, Herasymiuk changed the jurisdiction
of the criminal cases and handed it off to Ministry of Internal Affairs
and they in turn handed it off to Main Department of Supervision in Criminal proceedings
That was 10 months into the year long U.K. investigation.

By the time Shokin took over and was able to do anything
it was already too late

Not true, Shokin was assigned the case in 2014 as deputy prosecutor general.
 
By exposing a corrupt American politician? Why would that be a problem for you, Lesh?

Sorry but Trump wasn't exposing much of anything since there was no corruption to expose.

HIS actions were the corrupt ones.HE (Trump) was trying to force Ukraine into opening an investigation against his political opponent that had no more basis than the one Comey opened ...and then closed....days before the 2016 election.

He was also letting his buddy Rudy the Ghoul and Rick Perry try to take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine...but that's more Rudy and Rick's problem

Just to remind you folks.

Biden got a CORRUPT prosecutor removed. There are claims that this corrupt prosecutor was investigating Biden's son...or the company he worked for. Those claims are lies. Shokin was NOT doing anything of the kind.

YOU are lying. Please stop

So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
Biden was serving the U.S.

Trump was serving Trump.
 
By exposing a corrupt American politician? Why would that be a problem for you, Lesh?

Sorry but Trump wasn't exposing much of anything since there was no corruption to expose.

HIS actions were the corrupt ones.HE (Trump) was trying to force Ukraine into opening an investigation against his political opponent that had no more basis than the one Comey opened ...and then closed....days before the 2016 election.

He was also letting his buddy Rudy the Ghoul and Rick Perry try to take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine...but that's more Rudy and Rick's problem

Just to remind you folks.

Biden got a CORRUPT prosecutor removed. There are claims that this corrupt prosecutor was investigating Biden's son...or the company he worked for. Those claims are lies. Shokin was NOT doing anything of the kind.

YOU are lying. Please stop

So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
Biden was serving the U.S.

Trump was serving Trump.

How much money did Trump make off asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? The answer to that is zero.

How much money did Hunter Biden make off the influence of his father? The answer to that is millions.

So who was really "serving" who, Faun?
 
That’s an investigation into the CEO of Burisma who was suspected of stealing money... that’s not a Biden investigation. You are twisting the narrative and not being honest. Nice try.


biden worked for burisma so he would be included since he got some of the money,,,
Uh no...

And ongoing when he joined.

Yeah, Hunter decided it was a good idea
to work for a foreign company being criminally investigated
owned by a man with criminal charges pending
and decided to continue there after his boss
became a wanted fugitive when he fled to Russia

Joe wasn't aware...envoy to Ukraine...Got it
What a pity you can't prove that.

Meanwhile, in 2015, the U.K. had to unfreeze $23.5 million of Zlochevsky's frozen assets because Shokin refused to cooperate with them for a year.
Uh, what proof are you looking for?

Meanwhile, Shokin didn't refuse to cooperate for a year...
He took over after Yarema was fired FOR STALLING
and Shokin complaining about what was going on
Shokin took over in February of 2015, sorry charlie
Shokin was given the Zlochevsky case in 2014...

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.


And in January, 2016, 2 months before Biden got Shokin fired, Shokin made news for doing too little to fight corruption and specifically on the Zlochevsky case...

Kiev's Heavyweight Boxing Champ Mayor Wants to Knock Out Corruption in Ukraine

In September, American ambassador to Kiev Geoffrey Pyatt called out Shokin in front of business leaders gathered in the Ukrainian city of Odessa. Shokin's staff, said Pyatt, were "openly and aggressively undermining reform."

"There is one glaring problem that threatens all of the good work that regional leaders here in Odessa, in Kharkiv, in Lviv and elsewhere are doing," said Pyatt. "That obstacle is the failure of the institution of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine to successfully fight internal corruption."

Pyatt went on to highlight allegations levied against former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is also the owner of the energy company Burisma Holdings. Zlochevsky is accused of stealing $23 million — money that was order seized by a UK court. Shokin's office has been slow to assist British authorities, which Pyatt condemned.
Shokin was given the task of coming up with
the origins of the money seized by the EU

THE PROPER AUTHORITIES STILL HADN'T ISSUED
A NOTICE OF SUSPICION

That's equivalent to evidence obtained wo a search warrant
It's not admissible and thrown out in court
 
And ongoing when he joined.

Yeah, Hunter decided it was a good idea
to work for a foreign company being criminally investigated
owned by a man with criminal charges pending
and decided to continue there after his boss
became a wanted fugitive when he fled to Russia

Joe wasn't aware...envoy to Ukraine...Got it
What a pity you can't prove that.

Meanwhile, in 2015, the U.K. had to unfreeze $23.5 million of Zlochevsky's frozen assets because Shokin refused to cooperate with them for a year.


LIAR,,, shokin refused to drop the case against them and thats why joe had him fired,,,then under joes orders they returned the money to them,,,
Liar, Shokin refused to cooperate with U.K.'s investigation into Burisma's owner.....

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
Bullshit, Herasymiuk changed the jurisdiction
of the criminal cases and handed it off to Ministry of Internal Affairs
and they in turn handed it off to Main Department of Supervision in Criminal proceedings
That was 10 months into the year long U.K. investigation.

By the time Shokin took over and was able to do anything
it was already too late

Not true, Shokin was assigned the case in 2014 as deputy prosecutor general.
Not true, he wasn't assigned the case in 2014
he took control of the case in February 2015
 
By exposing a corrupt American politician? Why would that be a problem for you, Lesh?

Sorry but Trump wasn't exposing much of anything since there was no corruption to expose.

HIS actions were the corrupt ones.HE (Trump) was trying to force Ukraine into opening an investigation against his political opponent that had no more basis than the one Comey opened ...and then closed....days before the 2016 election.

He was also letting his buddy Rudy the Ghoul and Rick Perry try to take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine...but that's more Rudy and Rick's problem

Just to remind you folks.

Biden got a CORRUPT prosecutor removed. There are claims that this corrupt prosecutor was investigating Biden's son...or the company he worked for. Those claims are lies. Shokin was NOT doing anything of the kind.

YOU are lying. Please stop

So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
Biden was serving the U.S.

Trump was serving Trump.

How much money did Trump make off asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? The answer to that is zero.

How much money did Hunter Biden make off the influence of his father? The answer to that is millions.

So who was really "serving" who, Faun?
Lying con tool, who said Trump did it for money??

Trump did it to increase his chances of getting re-elected.

Hunter making millions off his father's name is not illegal. And since there was no open investigation into Burisma or Hunter, Biden didn't do it to benefit his son. Plus, as been mention ad nauseam, Biden was not acting in a vacuum, several countries and international bodies wanted Shokin out.
 
By exposing a corrupt American politician? Why would that be a problem for you, Lesh?

Sorry but Trump wasn't exposing much of anything since there was no corruption to expose.

HIS actions were the corrupt ones.HE (Trump) was trying to force Ukraine into opening an investigation against his political opponent that had no more basis than the one Comey opened ...and then closed....days before the 2016 election.

He was also letting his buddy Rudy the Ghoul and Rick Perry try to take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine...but that's more Rudy and Rick's problem

Just to remind you folks.

Biden got a CORRUPT prosecutor removed. There are claims that this corrupt prosecutor was investigating Biden's son...or the company he worked for. Those claims are lies. Shokin was NOT doing anything of the kind.

YOU are lying. Please stop

So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
Biden was serving the U.S.

Trump was serving Trump.


thats your opinion and the facts say youre an idiot,,
 
biden worked for burisma so he would be included since he got some of the money,,,
Uh no...

And ongoing when he joined.

Yeah, Hunter decided it was a good idea
to work for a foreign company being criminally investigated
owned by a man with criminal charges pending
and decided to continue there after his boss
became a wanted fugitive when he fled to Russia

Joe wasn't aware...envoy to Ukraine...Got it
What a pity you can't prove that.

Meanwhile, in 2015, the U.K. had to unfreeze $23.5 million of Zlochevsky's frozen assets because Shokin refused to cooperate with them for a year.
Uh, what proof are you looking for?

Meanwhile, Shokin didn't refuse to cooperate for a year...
He took over after Yarema was fired FOR STALLING
and Shokin complaining about what was going on
Shokin took over in February of 2015, sorry charlie
Shokin was given the Zlochevsky case in 2014...

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.


And in January, 2016, 2 months before Biden got Shokin fired, Shokin made news for doing too little to fight corruption and specifically on the Zlochevsky case...

Kiev's Heavyweight Boxing Champ Mayor Wants to Knock Out Corruption in Ukraine

In September, American ambassador to Kiev Geoffrey Pyatt called out Shokin in front of business leaders gathered in the Ukrainian city of Odessa. Shokin's staff, said Pyatt, were "openly and aggressively undermining reform."

"There is one glaring problem that threatens all of the good work that regional leaders here in Odessa, in Kharkiv, in Lviv and elsewhere are doing," said Pyatt. "That obstacle is the failure of the institution of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine to successfully fight internal corruption."

Pyatt went on to highlight allegations levied against former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is also the owner of the energy company Burisma Holdings. Zlochevsky is accused of stealing $23 million — money that was order seized by a UK court. Shokin's office has been slow to assist British authorities, which Pyatt condemned.
Shokin was given the task of coming up with
the origins of the money seized by the EU

THE PROPER AUTHORITIES STILL HADN'T ISSUED
A NOTICE OF SUSPICION

That's equivalent to evidence obtained wo a search warrant
It's not admissible and thrown out in court
Link....
 
What a pity you can't prove that.

Meanwhile, in 2015, the U.K. had to unfreeze $23.5 million of Zlochevsky's frozen assets because Shokin refused to cooperate with them for a year.


LIAR,,, shokin refused to drop the case against them and thats why joe had him fired,,,then under joes orders they returned the money to them,,,
Liar, Shokin refused to cooperate with U.K.'s investigation into Burisma's owner.....

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
Bullshit, Herasymiuk changed the jurisdiction
of the criminal cases and handed it off to Ministry of Internal Affairs
and they in turn handed it off to Main Department of Supervision in Criminal proceedings
That was 10 months into the year long U.K. investigation.

By the time Shokin took over and was able to do anything
it was already too late

Not true, Shokin was assigned the case in 2014 as deputy prosecutor general.
Not true, he wasn't assigned the case in 2014
he took control of the case in February 2015
Yes, true...

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor.
 
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LIAR,,, shokin refused to drop the case against them and thats why joe had him fired,,,then under joes orders they returned the money to them,,,
Liar, Shokin refused to cooperate with U.K.'s investigation into Burisma's owner.....

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
Bullshit, Herasymiuk changed the jurisdiction
of the criminal cases and handed it off to Ministry of Internal Affairs
and they in turn handed it off to Main Department of Supervision in Criminal proceedings
That was 10 months into the year long U.K. investigation.

By the time Shokin took over and was able to do anything
it was already too late

Not true, Shokin was assigned the case in 2014 as deputy prosecutor general.
Not true, he wasn't assigned the case in 2014
he took control of the case in February 2015
Yes, true...

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations
the more you talk the more you prove yourself wrong,,,
 
By exposing a corrupt American politician? Why would that be a problem for you, Lesh?

Sorry but Trump wasn't exposing much of anything since there was no corruption to expose.

HIS actions were the corrupt ones.HE (Trump) was trying to force Ukraine into opening an investigation against his political opponent that had no more basis than the one Comey opened ...and then closed....days before the 2016 election.

He was also letting his buddy Rudy the Ghoul and Rick Perry try to take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine...but that's more Rudy and Rick's problem

Just to remind you folks.

Biden got a CORRUPT prosecutor removed. There are claims that this corrupt prosecutor was investigating Biden's son...or the company he worked for. Those claims are lies. Shokin was NOT doing anything of the kind.

YOU are lying. Please stop

So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
Biden was serving the U.S.

Trump was serving Trump.

How much money did Trump make off asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? The answer to that is zero.

How much money did Hunter Biden make off the influence of his father? The answer to that is millions.

So who was really "serving" who, Faun?
Lying con tool, who said Trump did it for money??

Trump did it to increase his chances of getting re-elected.

Hunter making millions off his father's name is not illegal. And since there was no open investigation into Burisma or Hunter, Biden didn't do it to benefit his son. Plus, as been mention ad nauseam, Biden was not acting in a vacuum, several countries and international bodies wanted Shokin out.
I never said it was illegal. It was sleazy. It was unseemly. It was everything that's wrong with Washington.

As for Biden being a danger? Be honest for a change, Faun! Nobody on the left wants Biden...he was just the guy who had the most name recognition...the guy who stood out from the clown car full of other candidates that the Democrats are running this election! Biden is someone who's literally been running for President since Nixon was in the White House and he's ALWAYS managed to do something so colossally dumb that he has to drop out of the race before the primaries even take place! Having Joe Biden as the front runner never hurt Trump and anyone who knows anything about Biden KNOWS that!
 

Yeah, god knows we don't want to follow a President who's given us economic numbers that are off the charts, Eddie! Let's get a progressive in there to really screw up the works! Put in Bernie or Warren and we'll be well on our way to becoming a bigger Venezuela! Oh, yeah...give me some of THAT!!!
 
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Sorry but Trump wasn't exposing much of anything since there was no corruption to expose.

HIS actions were the corrupt ones.HE (Trump) was trying to force Ukraine into opening an investigation against his political opponent that had no more basis than the one Comey opened ...and then closed....days before the 2016 election.

He was also letting his buddy Rudy the Ghoul and Rick Perry try to take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine...but that's more Rudy and Rick's problem

Just to remind you folks.

Biden got a CORRUPT prosecutor removed. There are claims that this corrupt prosecutor was investigating Biden's son...or the company he worked for. Those claims are lies. Shokin was NOT doing anything of the kind.

YOU are lying. Please stop

So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
Biden was serving the U.S.

Trump was serving Trump.

How much money did Trump make off asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? The answer to that is zero.

How much money did Hunter Biden make off the influence of his father? The answer to that is millions.

So who was really "serving" who, Faun?
Lying con tool, who said Trump did it for money??

Trump did it to increase his chances of getting re-elected.

Hunter making millions off his father's name is not illegal. And since there was no open investigation into Burisma or Hunter, Biden didn't do it to benefit his son. Plus, as been mention ad nauseam, Biden was not acting in a vacuum, several countries and international bodies wanted Shokin out.
I never said it was illegal. It was sleazy. It was unseemly. It was everything that's wrong with Washington.

As for Biden being a danger? Be honest for a change, Faun! Nobody on the left wants Biden...he was just the guy who had the most name recognition...the guy who stood out from the clown car full of other candidates that the Democrats are running this election! Biden is someone who's literally been running for President since Nixon was in the White House and he's ALWAYS managed to do something so colossally dumb that he has to drop out of the race before the primaries even take place! Having Joe Biden as the front runner never hurt Trump and anyone who knows anything about Biden KNOWS that!
Lying con tool, we're talking about Ukraine, not Washington and sleazy doesn't warrant a government investigation into a private company if it's not illegal.

As far as Biden, he has as good a chance as anyone, if not better. As of now, he's leading every other Democrat and he leads Trump by a bigger margin than every other Democrat.
 
So let me see if I understand how this works, Lesh! It's an "impeachable offense" for Trump to ask for an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine in return for foreign aid but it's "admirable" for Joe Biden to demand that an allegedly corrupt prosecutor be removed under the threat of withholding a far greater sum of foreign aid? Why is it OK for the Obama Administration to play that game but not the Trump Administration?

As for your claim that anyone in the Trump Administration was trying to "take over the natural gas companies of Ukraine? That's laughable.
Biden was serving the U.S.

Trump was serving Trump.

How much money did Trump make off asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? The answer to that is zero.

How much money did Hunter Biden make off the influence of his father? The answer to that is millions.

So who was really "serving" who, Faun?
Lying con tool, who said Trump did it for money??

Trump did it to increase his chances of getting re-elected.

Hunter making millions off his father's name is not illegal. And since there was no open investigation into Burisma or Hunter, Biden didn't do it to benefit his son. Plus, as been mention ad nauseam, Biden was not acting in a vacuum, several countries and international bodies wanted Shokin out.
I never said it was illegal. It was sleazy. It was unseemly. It was everything that's wrong with Washington.

As for Biden being a danger? Be honest for a change, Faun! Nobody on the left wants Biden...he was just the guy who had the most name recognition...the guy who stood out from the clown car full of other candidates that the Democrats are running this election! Biden is someone who's literally been running for President since Nixon was in the White House and he's ALWAYS managed to do something so colossally dumb that he has to drop out of the race before the primaries even take place! Having Joe Biden as the front runner never hurt Trump and anyone who knows anything about Biden KNOWS that!
Lying con tool, we're talking about Ukraine, not Washington and sleazy doesn't warrant a government investigation into a private company if it's not illegal.

As far as Biden, he has as good a chance as anyone, if not better. As of now, he's leading every other Democrat and he leads Trump by a bigger margin than every other Democrat.

Biden is already toast, Faun. He was never the choice of the far left and they're happier about the Hunter Biden scandal than Trump ever was!

Funny how you on the left welcome government investigation after government investigation into Trump all in search of something...of ANYTHING...that you can use to try and overturn a valid election...but you don't think that Biden's sleazy behavior is deserving of even a second glance!
 

Yeah, god knows we don't want to follow a President who's given us economic numbers that are off the charts, Eddie! Let's get a progressive in there to really screw up the works! Put in Bernie or Warren and we'll be well on our way to becoming a bigger Venezuela! Oh, yeah...give me some of THAT!!!
Don't want either of the 2 you mentioned I want Biden the man the garbage in our WH is trying so hard to DEFAME
No matter our at the moment economic well being ,Trump if asking for help from a foreign country is ILLEGAL
 
I never said it was illegal. It was sleazy. It was unseemly. It was everything that's wrong with Washington.

Exactly. Nothing illegal about Hunter Biden working for Burisma and nothing that warrants an investigation.

Odd that you have no problem with what Trump's kids are doing or the fact that Rudy the Ghoul has a son on the WH payroll huh?
 

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