Brexit was a bad thing

[CowboyTed]

??

I think this shows the level of ignorance we are debating with...

Seriously clueless...

Next Boris was a grandchild of Churchill

 

[Oddball]

it was bad for Britain and Europe

i used to like England.... i regret it specially

who agrees?

Brexit was a tremendous thing.

Refusal to execute the clear will of the people has been an awful thing.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

What pushed the vote over the edge to leave was the smug face of Obama. The retard tried to dictate to the British voters that we should vote to remain, but it spurred more to say, "Fuck you Obama", and voted to leave. It's the only useful action Obama ever achieved.

I remember that. Or “you’d go to the back of the queue”.

 

[Oddball]

You know Boris was the leaders in the leave campaign...

EU referendum: Time to vote for real change, says Boris Johnson

The referendum on the UK's EU membership is a "once-in-a-lifetime chance to vote for real change", argues Boris Johnson as he declares support for an exit.

www.bbc.com

David Cameron wanted to stay in EU...

The referendum question was either pretty badly worded or there was a second question to ask...

The question was do you want EU, Yes or No.... No, doesn't mean that a majority wanted something else when given a choice between a specific route or another...

No other option looked like it would have beaten EU in a preference vote, Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit, Norway arrangement, Canadian Arrangement....
It is like asking is Red your favourite colour and 48% saying Yes... And then proclaiming victory because they didn't get over 50%...

UK should have found the alternative the Brexit leaders can negoiate, see if realistic and then vote than against staying a member of the EU... IT would have lost..

Exactly why the Tories are hated by actual conservatives.

 

[CowboyTed]

What pushed the vote over the edge to leave was the smug face of Obama. The retard tried to dictate to the British voters that we should vote to remain, but it spurred more to say, "Fuck you Obama", and voted to leave. It's the only useful action Obama ever achieved.

So you fucked over your own country because of your hatred towards Obama...

Talk about being stupid....

Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster... I love the bit where they think they are thumbing it to establishment...

Nigel Farage went to a private school that is more expensive than Eton.
Borris Johnson went to Eton and Oxford....

Are you nuts, they are as establishment as you get...

But you voted to leave to stick it to Obama, who doesn't live in the UK... Well done bright boy..

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I think this shows the level of ignorance we are debating with...

Seriously clueless...

Next Boris was a grandchild of Churchill

Are you usually so patronising? Intolerant of an opposing view to yours?

I wouldn’t call it debate?

 

[CowboyTed]

I remember that. Or “you’d go to the back of the queue”.

Yep...

Then Trumpy 1.0 put them to the back of the queue
Then Biden....

Trump announced the weakest ass trade deal (with tarrifs) for a photo op... It was a nothing deal, no meat in the sandwich...

UK went to the back of the queue because they are a lot smaller on there own and EU is far more important... This was the bit Farage and Borris didn't tell you...

 

[ShahdagMountains]

So you fucked over your own country because of your hatred towards Obama...

He didn’t say that. You’ve twisted the narrative, and got all personal about it.

 

[CowboyTed]

Are you usually so patronising? Intolerant of an opposing view to yours?

I wouldn’t call it debate?

When someone calls Boris a retainer, yep you getting a slagging...
It is grossly wrong...

It is not a matter of opinion Boris's stance in Brexit vote... It is a basic fact...

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yep...

Then Trumpy 1.0 put them to the back of the queue
Then Biden....

Trump announced the weakest ass trade deal (with tarrifs) for a photo op... It was a nothing deal, no meat in the sandwich...

UK went to the back of the queue because they are a lot smaller on there own and EU is far more important... This was the bit Farage and Borris didn't tell you...

~

 

[ShahdagMountains]

When someone calls Boris a retainer, yep you getting a slagging...
It is grossly wrong...

It is not a matter of opinion Boris's stance in Brexit vote... It is a basic fact...

Dump your emotions elsewhere. They’re toxic and most unpleasant.

 

[CowboyTed]

He didn’t say that. You’ve twisted the narrative, and got all personal about it.

You said Obama's intervention pushed the UK into leaving....

As the leader of another country really makes that much of a difference... Obama said that it would be a bad idea for UK to leave EU, Obama has been proven right... And UK have in polls shown regret...

Are you pissed Obama was right...

 

[ShahdagMountains]

You said Obama's intervention pushed the UK into leaving....

As the leader of another country really makes that much of a difference... Obama said that it would be a bad idea for UK to leave EU, Obama has been proven right... And UK have in polls shown regret...

Are you pissed Obama was right...

It doesn’t matter one way or the other to me. I don’t live in the UK.

 

[CowboyTed]

Dump your emotions elsewhere. They’re toxic and most unpleasant.

Not emotional... You got one of the most basic facts about the Brexit campaign wrong...

We showed you that...

You then tried to say everyone is toxic because you got something so wrong and still wanted us to debate Captain Caveman while he called others names like :

Stop being a retard you thick Jeremy Hunt. Stick to your German crap.

ShahdagMountains It wasn't directed at you personally...
But you didn't tell Captain Caveman to stop his rhetoric first, did you?

Seems like you are having a two their tolerance there..

 

[CowboyTed]

It doesn’t matter one way or the other to me. I don’t live in the UK.

Sorry, last comment was directed towards Captain Caveman, not meant for you..

 

[Zebra]

Brexit was a tremendous thing.

Refusal to execute the clear will of the people has been an awful thing.

clear will?

 

[CowboyTed]

Brexit was a tremendous thing.

Refusal to execute the clear will of the people has been an awful thing.

What was the actual will...

They were asked:
Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? The responses were:

1) Remain a member of the European Union

2) Leave the European Union

This doesn't stated what they actually wanted... It doesn't state that they want to leave the customs union, ECJ or free movement area... So this says that they want to leave the EU to have a relationship like Norway...

So you have a number of leave relationships... Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit or EEA (European Economic Area)...

This is like asking if Red is your favourite colour and 48% saying yes... Doesn't mean people want Blue..

The question asked of the people was inconclusive and any other question would highly suggest that staying a member of the EU was the most popular (using one man one vote, preference, run off...)... So the pro-Brexit campaign didn't want to go back...

But joining the EEA is very acceptable by that particular vote and would be respecting the opinion polls of today as well..

 

[Oddball]

What was the actual will...

They were asked:
Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? The responses were:

1) Remain a member of the European Union

2) Leave the European Union

This doesn't stated what they actually wanted... It doesn't state that they want to leave the customs union, ECJ or free movement area... So this says that they want to leave the EU to have a relationship like Norway...

So you have a number of leave relationships... Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit or EEA (European Economic Area)...

This is like asking if Red is your favourite colour and 48% saying yes... Doesn't mean people want Blue..

The question asked of the people was inconclusive and any other question would highly suggest that staying a member of the EU was the most popular (using one man one vote, preference, run off...)... So the pro-Brexit campaign didn't want to go back...

But joining the EEA is very acceptable by that particular vote and would be respecting the opinion polls of today as well..

Right...And the people charged with doing all that sabotaged every effort, if they even made any effort at all.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Right...And the people charged with doing all that sabotaged every effort, if they even made any effort at all.

Ursula von der Leyen for one.

 

[Captain Caveman]

So you fucked over your own country because of your hatred towards Obama...

Talk about being stupid....

Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster... I love the bit where they think they are thumbing it to establishment...

Nigel Farage went to a private school that is more expensive than Eton.
Borris Johnson went to Eton and Oxford....

Are you nuts, they are as establishment as you get...
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But you voted to leave to stick it to Obama, who doesn't live in the UK... Well done bright boy..

No retard. It's called sovereignty. Leavers are not interested in your petty arguements and silliness. Because Obama was such a dick, his face and fine words pushed more to vote leave. The bell ends such as Tommy Tit and Deadbeat voted to stay, they're called Remoaner's and Remoaner's piss on the graves of the fallen, some even pull their pants down and shit. Hopefully Reform will be in next to kick the EU out of touch for good. You stick to the US, Canada, Greenland, and the Muslims with the golden dome.