Breaking: Van mows down people walking on London Bridge.

[TemplarKormac]

Neither do I.

You lost your way already? And here I thought you were going to finally stand on principle.

Unlike you, my views aren't static and unchanging. It's almost as if you resent me for that.

Well too bad. Something has to be done about terrorism, if that takes banning people from terrorism prone countries, then so be it.

But, however, never will I seek to banish a religion from my country in what would be a blatant disregard of our Constitution.

Now go pick on someone else troll.

Awww. You got triggered? You wish to ban people from countries that have "sent us terrorists".

Name these countries, please. Don't forget any. That could be dangerous.

Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran

Should I keep going?

Yes. Please do.

Bye! You obsequious liberal troll.

 

[LoneLaugher]

You lost your way already? And here I thought you were going to finally stand on principle.

Unlike you, my views aren't static and unchanging. It's almost as if you resent me for that.

Well too bad. Something has to be done about terrorism, if that takes banning people from terrorism prone countries, then so be it.

But, however, never will I seek to banish a religion from my country in what would be a blatant disregard of our Constitution.

Now go pick on someone else troll.

Awww. You got triggered? You wish to ban people from countries that have "sent us terrorists".

Name these countries, please. Don't forget any. That could be dangerous.

Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran

Should I keep going?

Yes. Please do.

Bye! You obsequious liberal troll.

You forgot some. You'll never forgive yourself if you don't stop them all!

 

[eagle1462010]

50 U.S. Code § 23 - Jurisdiction of United States courts and judges

After any such proclamation has been made, the several courts of the United States, having criminal jurisdiction, and the several justices and judges of the courts of the United States, are authorized and it shall be their duty, upon complaint against any alien enemy resident and at large within such jurisdiction or district, to the danger of the public peace or safety, and contrary to the tenor or intent of such proclamation, or other regulations which the President may have established, to cause such alien to be duly apprehended and conveyed before such court, judge, or justice; and after a full examination and hearing on such complaint, and sufficient cause appearing, to order such alien to be removed out of the territory of the United States, or to give sureties for his good behavior, or to be otherwise restrained, conformably to the proclamation or regulations established as aforesaid, and to imprison, or otherwise secure such alien, until the order which may be so made shall be performed.

(R.S. § 4069.)

 

[eagle1462010]

50 U.S. Code § 21 - Restraint, regulation, and removal

Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.

(R.S. § 4067; Apr. 16, 1918, ch. 55, 40 Stat. 531.)

 

[eagle1462010]

The problem with this approach is that we have NOT DECLARED WAR on anyone since WWII..............and it would require a Declaration of War against Terrorist Groups and or Radical Islam...............

Which is a serious legal problem when we fight a War against entities and not a Nation..............Since the Terrorist don't assign themselves as fighting for or as a country.................

Which places us back in the same boat on how to deal with Radical elements within our society that are now preaching and recruiting Radical elements to basically attack us from within.....................the NSA..........CIA............FBI....................etc..............have reported radical elements within our society but have no LEGAL recourse to do anything other than monitor these groups.............they have to prove an intent to do crime.........or wait until the crime is committed to do anything...........but they do monitor these groups and apprehend many before they can cause damage...............They can't stop them all though.

 

[eagle1462010]

This is why the act is so dangerous................

 

[Mac1958]

2nd attack being reported

Gunmen at a market.

Aren't guns banned in England?

It's nutbag BINGO. "Aren't guns banned in England" for the row!

Why aren't you outraged at these attacks?

Rhetorical question, I assume. You know why.
.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Van smashing into people, gunmen and knifemen come out of the van and attack pedestrians.

There were no guns.

wow

that certainly makes it better

If there were guns, more people would have died, so yes, it is better.

leftards and their magic crystal balls

the truth is good guys with GUNS stopped the terrorists from killing more

 

[eagle1462010]

Report: Homegrown Terrorists Are Scrubs

In total, Jenkins counts 176 domestic jihadis and 32 separate terrorist plots in the decade following the attacks. “Lone wolf” terrorists — self-starter militants with little or no reliance on existing terror networks — have been a prominent concern for law enforcement, since they’re by definition hard to track. But Jenkins’ data might make cops rethink their metaphor. Sure, 22 of the plots — an astonishing 69 percent of the total — involved no more than a single person. But it turns out that many of those involved in “lone wolf” cases were either working for al-Qaida or for undercover FBI agents posing as members of the group.

Of 32 plots since 9/11, not even a third of them proceeded to the point of identifying a specific target or making firm plans. Of the ten plots that did, six were secretly FBI stings. A grand total of two out of the 176 “domestic jihadis” ever got around to building an explosive device on his own. One such bomb was incomplete when its maker got pinched. The other, made by would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad, ended in a fizzle.

“Those arrested in stings were demonstrably willing to kill if someone handed them the means,” the report concludes, “but others made little effort to build bombs or acquire guns, which are readily available in the United States.”

The numbers, however, have been growing lately. Jenkins’s data set shows spikes in the number of American jihadists in the last two completed calendar years, with 40 identified in 2009 and 31 in 2010. Somalia’s al-Shabaab terrorist group is a major reason why. Violence and criminality here in the U.S. associated with al-Shabaab shows up as one factor in the larger numbers of the past two years, with 27 individuals connected to Shabaab in some way during the two year period.

 

[depotoo]

You want every western country to have to submit to their extremism? Change our way of life? You don't think they would then find another way to attack? Such as park, exit their vehicles and go on a rampage, as they did after running people over?

'Van hits pedestrians' on London Bridge

London Bridge chaos as 'several people mown down' by car sparking station evacuation

They should have put up barriers last time, between the sidewalk and the road. And put speed bumps on the road part so no one could get up any speed. Why didn't they?

 

[namvet]

how much more will the civil population put up with?? a big opportunity here for an uprising and and a high Muslim body count

 

[depotoo]

There have now been more than 64 plots foiled, they are following over 900 extremists in all 50 states.

Report: Homegrown Terrorists Are Scrubs

In total, Jenkins counts 176 domestic jihadis and 32 separate terrorist plots in the decade following the attacks. “Lone wolf” terrorists — self-starter militants with little or no reliance on existing terror networks — have been a prominent concern for law enforcement, since they’re by definition hard to track. But Jenkins’ data might make cops rethink their metaphor. Sure, 22 of the plots — an astonishing 69 percent of the total — involved no more than a single person. But it turns out that many of those involved in “lone wolf” cases were either working for al-Qaida or for undercover FBI agents posing as members of the group.

Of 32 plots since 9/11, not even a third of them proceeded to the point of identifying a specific target or making firm plans. Of the ten plots that did, six were secretly FBI stings. A grand total of two out of the 176 “domestic jihadis” ever got around to building an explosive device on his own. One such bomb was incomplete when its maker got pinched. The other, made by would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad, ended in a fizzle.

“Those arrested in stings were demonstrably willing to kill if someone handed them the means,” the report concludes, “but others made little effort to build bombs or acquire guns, which are readily available in the United States.”

The numbers, however, have been growing lately. Jenkins’s data set shows spikes in the number of American jihadists in the last two completed calendar years, with 40 identified in 2009 and 31 in 2010. Somalia’s al-Shabaab terrorist group is a major reason why. Violence and criminality here in the U.S. associated with al-Shabaab shows up as one factor in the larger numbers of the past two years, with 27 individuals connected to Shabaab in some way during the two year period.

 

[Roudy]

Can we ban Pastafarians?
What about creating a religion of those who worship money? Their places of worship would be banks which would make them tax exempt.

Are you being serious?

Are you?
Any form of worshipping can be called religion.
Can we make laws against Quetzalcoatl worshipers who believe in sacrificing virgins to their God?
Just because they call it a religion doesn't make it fall under the definition of the word religion as it pertains to in the constitution.
I doubt any of our fathers considered Satanism a religion.

Oh, but now you get to determine what is or isn't a religion?

Such arrogance.

It isn't a religion if it causes people to turn into mass murdering suicidal zombies.

Then what were the Crusaders? Are we really going to play this game?

Here we go with the Crusades. Your Leftie toolbox is so typical and predictable. The Crusaders were trying to repel the Islamic invaders, and it happened over 700 years ago. We don't have Christians beheading non Christians all over the world while hollering "Jesus is great" do we?

 

[dani67]

 

[Roudy]

'Van hits pedestrians' on London Bridge

London Bridge chaos as 'several people mown down' by car sparking station evacuation

They should have put up barriers last time, between the sidewalk and the road. And put speed bumps on the road part so no one could get up any speed. Why didn't they?

Knowing what they're capable of, they should have put the animals in a cage, why didn't they?

 

[namvet]

 

[Roudy]

President Trump sends tone-deaf travel ban tweet amid London Bridge terror
Source: Daily News

President Trump used the occasion of a terror attack in London to plug his proposed travel ban Saturday evening.

“We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!” Trump tweeted as chaos unfolded across multiple sites, with reports of fatalities on the London Bridge.

He seemed to recognize the insensitivity of the post and minutes later tweeted again.

“Whatever the United States can do to help out in London and the U.K., we will be there - WE ARE WITH YOU. GOD BLESS!”

Read more: Trump sends tone-deaf travel ban tweet amid London Bridge terror



Nothing can more clearly demonstrate the level of narcissistic rage that this man has when he has to turn every event, every tragedy, every living moment into something about him.

He's trying to do something to stop this carnage. You on the other hand want to continue providing lip service while innocent people keep getting slaughtered.

 

[Roudy]

Truer today than ever.

 

[Theowl32]

I think we should force self professed isis members live in Beverly Hills and Hollywood.

 

[namvet]

the Brits have a golden opportunity here to rise up and begin the extermination of Islam in they're country. that will force the Government into two problems. time for talk is over. for the sake of you're women and children rise and strike. leave no survivors