Breaking: Trump loses again....Manhattan DA to get Trump's tax returns

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The TRUMP Court unanimously told Trump to cough up his records
All the rage-spitters here celebrating the SCOTUS "betrayal" of Trump only betray their own fundamental dishonesty and unsuitability as free citizens practicing self-government. We argued that Trump's SC nominees were chosen on their merits. You all shrieked with outrage and tried every underhanded trick to scuttle their nominations. The human condition requires us to see ourselves in others, and you all assumed Trump's nominees were going to be the corrupt partisans we'd get if, say, upChuk Schumer named them. So, when the court rules against the president you squeal with delight at the "betrayal."
"So, when the court rules against the president you squeal with delight at the "betrayal." nothing more has to be said does it, since scum bag appointed them , they should support his criminal or just ugly actions. This person is like the rest he supports the destruction of our republic to force in a pile of shit dictator
 

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There's a lot more things to worry about other than Trump paying his daughter some money But you morons seem to love your bread and circus
"There's a lot more to worry about than corruption by a President of our country, for instance...when are they arresting Hillary!? for her emails!?"
How is Trump's taxes from a decade ago, corruption by our President? Or are you referring to say Obama who was President then, that ignored whatever tax crime you think is going to be in the tax returns?
THe ultimate stupid, Trump is a crook ya but Obama is a Muslim. Ignore!
What? Who said anything about Obama, let alone who said anything being a Muslim? What does Obama or the Islam f
There's a lot more things to worry about other than Trump paying his daughter some money But you morons seem to love your bread and circus
"There's a lot more to worry about than corruption by a President of our country, for instance...when are they arresting Hillary!? for her emails!?"
How is Trump's taxes from a decade ago, corruption by our President? Or are you referring to say Obama who was President then, that ignored whatever tax crime you think is going to be in the tax returns?
THe ultimate stupid, Trump is a crook ya but Obama is a Muslim. Ignore!
Huh? Are you sure you are on the right thread? When did I mention Obama or for that matter anything to do with Muslims?

With that said, it's frankly not very nice to go around calling people "crooks" when all you are basing this on it's speculation. The NYC DA has been investing the President and the Trump Organization for 4 plus years, there has yet to be an indictment.....let a lone a conviction.
NO you misunderstood but you probably are the only one, It was a example of how pitiful you haters have become. Yur arguments Are simpleton points to try to chance the subject, I'll write this out for you to understand Comment from intelligent Democrats referring to the fact that trump is a criminal piece of shit, now for the stupid brain dead response from the normal right winger "Ya but Obama was a Muslim. This is done because they have nothing ever to argue against charges by the democrats because they ran out of excuses totally by this point, hence stupid remarks to try to justify what their scum group does by what someone has done in the past. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND< I THINK I CAN EVEN DUMB IT DONE MORE IF NEEDED SO LET ME KNOW.
No i don't understand, because nobody here referred to Obama or Muslims, nor has Trump been convicted of any crimes to be called a criminal.

So.....

Anyway, step away from the computer and take a xanex....you seem very angry....and aren't making much sense
You are a waste of energy, it's quite simple me even responding to you is ridiculous , everyone who supported the destruction of our country and democracy , to force in a Ass hole dictator no longer has a voice in this country , They are simply traitors to this country an we shoot traitors in this country.
i am not aware of any time we had a dictator in this country

we have certainly had some president"s like fdr>>>and obama that have taken great leaps with their power< but not a dictator

as far as destruction of our country and democracy>>>>we have seen president"s attack our democracy< two in recent memory>>>>>one was VP at the time>>>where they plotted with members of the admin to undermine the newly elected president< spread false narratives about a russian conspiracy>>>>sad stuff

the other folks to blame are the propagandist that have done the work for that party< like the ones that did the work for hitler>>>>your post highlights your rage< and anger<hate, the misinformation......sadly your post reflects a success for the Natonial Sociali....er DNC
Like dealing with a child, a 3rd grade and not even a intelegent 3rd grader. He Thinks that it is Ok that Trump tried to bring down our country and destroy our republic to force himself in as a dictator, because it, ok because he thinks , stupidly that others were worse. The logic of the hate Nazi's is amazing
Trump didn't do that....only a child IN 3rd grade, would believe such fantasies.

and if you are going to challenge someones intelligence.....learn how to properly spell the word intelligent.

I don't think what happened on the 6th was OK....not at all....I just pointed out the hypocrisy of the left today, when they ignored and defended ALL the numerous acts of violence and riots by the left for the past 4 years.....including the day the President was sworn in, when they attempted to stop that with riots throughout DC
 

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Them going after Trump makes him a man of the people and more relatable
Oh i see. Could you give me another example of this? You know... A billionaire becoming a "man of the people", because the IRS went after him. Because, frankly, i think what you are saying is nonsense.
Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
Same type of Rally that Hitler had exactly the same.
in some respects yes....both well attended, high energy, and orderly......the only real difference is Trump discussed freedom, while Hitler went on and on about socialist ideas....the sort of thing that you'd see at the DNC Convention
So did Hitler talk non stop about freedom , and Trump by far was more hateful in his speeches then Hitler was. Where did Trump learn this type of political control from.. Its from the only book this pig ever read in his life and it was on his bed stand every night where he read it constantly, The book "My New Order" by guess who hot shot. Bozo brain is known for one thing and that is never reading a book. The most stupid remark of the day, YOU CAN"T FIND A RESPECTABLE SOURCE THAT SAYS HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST < HE HATED THEM WITH A PASSION>THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WILL SAY THAT ARE RIGHT WING HATE NAZI SOURCES> STUPID CHARGE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIST < WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO SOCIALISM COMMUNISM OR MARXISM IN NUMBERS ENOUGH TO FILL A TEA POT> THAT IS TOP NOTCH HATE PARTY STUPID,.
I've read a lot of books about Hitler and Nazi Germany, you should give it a chance as well, educate yourself, maybe then you wouldn't be a sheep for his policies the DNC pushes, or fall for their propganda so easily

I wouldn't say Trump had political control, quite the opposite! He was no polished politican with control, like Obama, Harris or Biden....or Hitler....that's for sure.....you maybe the only one that I know that would suggest he did

I am curious how you know Trump only read one book though....

Hitler started the National SOCIALIST German Worker's party.....what do you think NAZI means?
You have no clue what you are talking about ,The party was started by Anton Drexler, It was to pull People away from communism, it emerged from the populist freikorps paramilitary culture. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into volkish nationalism. The Socialist name was put in early at the advise of Martin Borman because of the popularity of the times in their interest of Socialism throughout Europe. Your just adding to peoples opinion on what a bullshitter you are, Fake it or lie until you make it. You lose again. when the open their mouths it is a lie always.
he was hitler"s mentor that formed the german worker"s party< yes they hated communism< and were socialist

the socialist name is because they believe in socialist principals>>>>but believed in a third way>>>facism>>>which is a combination of socialist and a little capitalism>>>>>what we are seeing from the modern dnc>>>>>where some large businesses are favored< and as long they work for the party
hated communist but were socialist, anything more stupid then that remark, hated Demacracy but were a republic. or hated republic but were a demacracy. Ya you betcha!
um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea

a Democracy is system of Govt in which the people vote, usually using a Republic style of Govt, in which they vote for Representatives, who do the legislation. It's more like enjoying coffee, but enjoying a tall mug to deliver it.
 

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Them going after Trump makes him a man of the people and more relatable
Oh i see. Could you give me another example of this? You know... A billionaire becoming a "man of the people", because the IRS went after him. Because, frankly, i think what you are saying is nonsense.
Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
Same type of Rally that Hitler had exactly the same.
in some respects yes....both well attended, high energy, and orderly......the only real difference is Trump discussed freedom, while Hitler went on and on about socialist ideas....the sort of thing that you'd see at the DNC Convention
So did Hitler talk non stop about freedom , and Trump by far was more hateful in his speeches then Hitler was. Where did Trump learn this type of political control from.. Its from the only book this pig ever read in his life and it was on his bed stand every night where he read it constantly, The book "My New Order" by guess who hot shot. Bozo brain is known for one thing and that is never reading a book. The most stupid remark of the day, YOU CAN"T FIND A RESPECTABLE SOURCE THAT SAYS HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST < HE HATED THEM WITH A PASSION>THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WILL SAY THAT ARE RIGHT WING HATE NAZI SOURCES> STUPID CHARGE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIST < WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO SOCIALISM COMMUNISM OR MARXISM IN NUMBERS ENOUGH TO FILL A TEA POT> THAT IS TOP NOTCH HATE PARTY STUPID,.
I've read a lot of books about Hitler and Nazi Germany, you should give it a chance as well, educate yourself, maybe then you wouldn't be a sheep for his policies the DNC pushes, or fall for their propganda so easily

I wouldn't say Trump had political control, quite the opposite! He was no polished politican with control, like Obama, Harris or Biden....or Hitler....that's for sure.....you maybe the only one that I know that would suggest he did

I am curious how you know Trump only read one book though....

Hitler started the National SOCIALIST German Worker's party.....what do you think NAZI means?
You have no clue what you are talking about ,The party was started by Anton Drexler, It was to pull People away from communism, it emerged from the populist freikorps paramilitary culture. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into volkish nationalism. The Socialist name was put in early at the advise of Martin Borman because of the popularity of the times in their interest of Socialism throughout Europe. Your just adding to peoples opinion on what a bullshitter you are, Fake it or lie until you make it. You lose again. when the open their mouths it is a lie always.
he was hitler"s mentor that formed the german worker"s party< yes they hated communism< and were socialist

the socialist name is because they believe in socialist principals>>>>but believed in a third way>>>facism>>>which is a combination of socialist and a little capitalism>>>>>what we are seeing from the modern dnc>>>>>where some large businesses are favored< and as long they work for the party
hated communist but were socialist, anything more stupid then that remark, hated Demacracy but were a republic. or hated republic but were a demacracy. Ya you betcha!
um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea

a Democracy is system of Govt in which the people vote, usually using a Republic style of Govt, in which they vote for Representatives, who do the legislation. It's more like enjoying coffee, but enjoying a tall mug to deliver it.
You have no clue , you are a non stop bullshiter, So you say communism and socialism are the same, here you go hotshot buried under you ignorance one more time, everything you have said in this whole thread has been bullshit-So what did Marx and Engelssay about your bullshit------"The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism - Wikipedia, like I said I love debating stupid people its like bullying the smallest person in the room.
 

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It’s going to be hilarious when it’s another giant nothing burger.
Vance isn't looking for something illegal. He is looking for something embarrassing. Those tax returns are thousands of pages covering multiple transactions. Vance isn't smart enough to find out anything at all.
 

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Them going after Trump makes him a man of the people and more relatable
Oh i see. Could you give me another example of this? You know... A billionaire becoming a "man of the people", because the IRS went after him. Because, frankly, i think what you are saying is nonsense.
Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
Same type of Rally that Hitler had exactly the same.
in some respects yes....both well attended, high energy, and orderly......the only real difference is Trump discussed freedom, while Hitler went on and on about socialist ideas....the sort of thing that you'd see at the DNC Convention
So did Hitler talk non stop about freedom , and Trump by far was more hateful in his speeches then Hitler was. Where did Trump learn this type of political control from.. Its from the only book this pig ever read in his life and it was on his bed stand every night where he read it constantly, The book "My New Order" by guess who hot shot. Bozo brain is known for one thing and that is never reading a book. The most stupid remark of the day, YOU CAN"T FIND A RESPECTABLE SOURCE THAT SAYS HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST < HE HATED THEM WITH A PASSION>THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WILL SAY THAT ARE RIGHT WING HATE NAZI SOURCES> STUPID CHARGE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIST < WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO SOCIALISM COMMUNISM OR MARXISM IN NUMBERS ENOUGH TO FILL A TEA POT> THAT IS TOP NOTCH HATE PARTY STUPID,.
I've read a lot of books about Hitler and Nazi Germany, you should give it a chance as well, educate yourself, maybe then you wouldn't be a sheep for his policies the DNC pushes, or fall for their propganda so easily

I wouldn't say Trump had political control, quite the opposite! He was no polished politican with control, like Obama, Harris or Biden....or Hitler....that's for sure.....you maybe the only one that I know that would suggest he did

I am curious how you know Trump only read one book though....

Hitler started the National SOCIALIST German Worker's party.....what do you think NAZI means?
You have no clue what you are talking about ,The party was started by Anton Drexler, It was to pull People away from communism, it emerged from the populist freikorps paramilitary culture. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into volkish nationalism. The Socialist name was put in early at the advise of Martin Borman because of the popularity of the times in their interest of Socialism throughout Europe. Your just adding to peoples opinion on what a bullshitter you are, Fake it or lie until you make it. You lose again. when the open their mouths it is a lie always.
he was hitler"s mentor that formed the german worker"s party< yes they hated communism< and were socialist

the socialist name is because they believe in socialist principals>>>>but believed in a third way>>>facism>>>which is a combination of socialist and a little capitalism>>>>>what we are seeing from the modern dnc>>>>>where some large businesses are favored< and as long they work for the party
hated communist but were socialist, anything more stupid then that remark, hated Demacracy but were a republic. or hated republic but were a demacracy. Ya you betcha!
um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea

a Democracy is system of Govt in which the people vote, usually using a Republic style of Govt, in which they vote for Representatives, who do the legislation. It's more like enjoying coffee, but enjoying a tall mug to deliver it.
You have no clue , you are a non stop bullshiter, So you say communism and socialism are the same, here you go hotshot buried under you ignorance one more time, everything you have said in this whole thread has been bullshit-So what did Marx and Engelssay about your bullshit------"The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism - Wikipedia, like I said I love debating stupid people its like bullying the smallest person in the room.
No actually I said they aren't the same....because they are two totally different things I like how you say what did Marx say, and then refer to a Wiki page..

but Sociallism is certainly a "lower form" if you will. Socialism is when Govt owns the means and production....Communism is when there is no Govt at all, the people own it all collectively. Socialism was what Marx referred to as the middle stage between Capitalism and Communism.

We have never had a true Communist society in the World..only different degrees of Socialism....Hitler believed in yet another way....Mussonlini's Fascism....which, is what we see the modern Dems pushing in this country. A system where the Govt allows 'some" private businesses, typically large big businesses, to operate, so long as they are doing work for the party.
 

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There's a lot more things to worry about other than Trump paying his daughter some money But you morons seem to love your bread and circus
"There's a lot more to worry about than corruption by a President of our country, for instance...when are they arresting Hillary!? for her emails!?"
How is Trump's taxes from a decade ago, corruption by our President? Or are you referring to say Obama who was President then, that ignored whatever tax crime you think is going to be in the tax returns?
THe ultimate stupid, Trump is a crook ya but Obama is a Muslim. Ignore!
What? Who said anything about Obama, let alone who said anything being a Muslim? What does Obama or the Islam f
There's a lot more things to worry about other than Trump paying his daughter some money But you morons seem to love your bread and circus
"There's a lot more to worry about than corruption by a President of our country, for instance...when are they arresting Hillary!? for her emails!?"
How is Trump's taxes from a decade ago, corruption by our President? Or are you referring to say Obama who was President then, that ignored whatever tax crime you think is going to be in the tax returns?
THe ultimate stupid, Trump is a crook ya but Obama is a Muslim. Ignore!
Huh? Are you sure you are on the right thread? When did I mention Obama or for that matter anything to do with Muslims?

With that said, it's frankly not very nice to go around calling people "crooks" when all you are basing this on it's speculation. The NYC DA has been investing the President and the Trump Organization for 4 plus years, there has yet to be an indictment.....let a lone a conviction.
NO you misunderstood but you probably are the only one, It was a example of how pitiful you haters have become. Yur arguments Are simpleton points to try to chance the subject, I'll write this out for you to understand Comment from intelligent Democrats referring to the fact that trump is a criminal piece of shit, now for the stupid brain dead response from the normal right winger "Ya but Obama was a Muslim. This is done because they have nothing ever to argue against charges by the democrats because they ran out of excuses totally by this point, hence stupid remarks to try to justify what their scum group does by what someone has done in the past. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND< I THINK I CAN EVEN DUMB IT DONE MORE IF NEEDED SO LET ME KNOW.
No i don't understand, because nobody here referred to Obama or Muslims, nor has Trump been convicted of any crimes to be called a criminal.

So.....

Anyway, step away from the computer and take a xanex....you seem very angry....and aren't making much sense
You are a waste of energy, it's quite simple me even responding to you is ridiculous , everyone who supported the destruction of our country and democracy , to force in a Ass hole dictator no longer has a voice in this country , They are simply traitors to this country an we shoot traitors in this country.
i am not aware of any time we had a dictator in this country

we have certainly had some president"s like fdr>>>and obama that have taken great leaps with their power< but not a dictator

as far as destruction of our country and democracy>>>>we have seen president"s attack our democracy< two in recent memory>>>>>one was VP at the time>>>where they plotted with members of the admin to undermine the newly elected president< spread false narratives about a russian conspiracy>>>>sad stuff

the other folks to blame are the propagandist that have done the work for that party< like the ones that did the work for hitler>>>>your post highlights your rage< and anger<hate, the misinformation......sadly your post reflects a success for the Natonial Sociali....er DNC
Like dealing with a child, a 3rd grade and not even a intelegent 3rd grader. He Thinks that it is Ok that Trump tried to bring down our country and destroy our republic to force himself in as a dictator, because it, ok because he thinks , stupidly that others were worse. The logic of the hate Nazi's is amazing
You know what's really funny?

When idiots like you disparage someone else's intelligence but misspell the word intelligent
 

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Them going after Trump makes him a man of the people and more relatable
Oh i see. Could you give me another example of this? You know... A billionaire becoming a "man of the people", because the IRS went after him. Because, frankly, i think what you are saying is nonsense.
Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
Same type of Rally that Hitler had exactly the same.
in some respects yes....both well attended, high energy, and orderly......the only real difference is Trump discussed freedom, while Hitler went on and on about socialist ideas....the sort of thing that you'd see at the DNC Convention
So did Hitler talk non stop about freedom , and Trump by far was more hateful in his speeches then Hitler was. Where did Trump learn this type of political control from.. Its from the only book this pig ever read in his life and it was on his bed stand every night where he read it constantly, The book "My New Order" by guess who hot shot. Bozo brain is known for one thing and that is never reading a book. The most stupid remark of the day, YOU CAN"T FIND A RESPECTABLE SOURCE THAT SAYS HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST < HE HATED THEM WITH A PASSION>THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WILL SAY THAT ARE RIGHT WING HATE NAZI SOURCES> STUPID CHARGE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIST < WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO SOCIALISM COMMUNISM OR MARXISM IN NUMBERS ENOUGH TO FILL A TEA POT> THAT IS TOP NOTCH HATE PARTY STUPID,.
I've read a lot of books about Hitler and Nazi Germany, you should give it a chance as well, educate yourself, maybe then you wouldn't be a sheep for his policies the DNC pushes, or fall for their propganda so easily

I wouldn't say Trump had political control, quite the opposite! He was no polished politican with control, like Obama, Harris or Biden....or Hitler....that's for sure.....you maybe the only one that I know that would suggest he did

I am curious how you know Trump only read one book though....

Hitler started the National SOCIALIST German Worker's party.....what do you think NAZI means?
You have no clue what you are talking about ,The party was started by Anton Drexler, It was to pull People away from communism, it emerged from the populist freikorps paramilitary culture. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into volkish nationalism. The Socialist name was put in early at the advise of Martin Borman because of the popularity of the times in their interest of Socialism throughout Europe. Your just adding to peoples opinion on what a bullshitter you are, Fake it or lie until you make it. You lose again. when the open their mouths it is a lie always.
he was hitler"s mentor that formed the german worker"s party< yes they hated communism< and were socialist

the socialist name is because they believe in socialist principals>>>>but believed in a third way>>>facism>>>which is a combination of socialist and a little capitalism>>>>>what we are seeing from the modern dnc>>>>>where some large businesses are favored< and as long they work for the party
hated communist but were socialist, anything more stupid then that remark, hated Demacracy but were a republic. or hated republic but were a demacracy. Ya you betcha!
um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea

a Democracy is system of Govt in which the people vote, usually using a Republic style of Govt, in which they vote for Representatives, who do the legislation. It's more like enjoying coffee, but enjoying a tall mug to deliver it.
You have no clue , you are a non stop bullshiter, So you say communism and socialism are the same, here you go hotshot buried under you ignorance one more time, everything you have said in this whole thread has been bullshit-So what did Marx and Engelssay about your bullshit------"The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism - Wikipedia, like I said I love debating stupid people its like bullying the smallest person in the room.
No actually I said they aren't the same....because they are two totally different things I like how you say what did Marx say, and then refer to a Wiki page..

but Sociallism is certainly a "lower form" if you will. Socialism is when Govt owns the means and production....Communism is when there is no Govt at all, the people own it all collectively. Socialism was what Marx referred to as the middle stage between Capitalism and Communism.

We have never had a true Communist society in the World..only different degrees of Socialism....Hitler believed in yet another way....Mussonlini's Fascism....which, is what we see the modern Dems pushing in this country. A system where the Govt allows 'some" private businesses, typically large big businesses, to operate, so long as they are doing work for the party.
You can;t make anyone believe they aren't the same if Marx and Engels says they are exactly the same and used both to define The same thing. won't work ace , one more time for effect here is your stupid remark"um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea" and here is what Marx and Engels said about it.""The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism " Again you are buried under your own ignorance and I;m caring the shovel that is doing it.
 

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These make believers are just to easy. I feel like a bully but i'm bullying people who are traitors to my country so I hardly feel bad about it.
 

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There's a lot more things to worry about other than Trump paying his daughter some money But you morons seem to love your bread and circus
"There's a lot more to worry about than corruption by a President of our country, for instance...when are they arresting Hillary!? for her emails!?"
How is Trump's taxes from a decade ago, corruption by our President? Or are you referring to say Obama who was President then, that ignored whatever tax crime you think is going to be in the tax returns?
THe ultimate stupid, Trump is a crook ya but Obama is a Muslim. Ignore!
What? Who said anything about Obama, let alone who said anything being a Muslim? What does Obama or the Islam f
There's a lot more things to worry about other than Trump paying his daughter some money But you morons seem to love your bread and circus
"There's a lot more to worry about than corruption by a President of our country, for instance...when are they arresting Hillary!? for her emails!?"
How is Trump's taxes from a decade ago, corruption by our President? Or are you referring to say Obama who was President then, that ignored whatever tax crime you think is going to be in the tax returns?
THe ultimate stupid, Trump is a crook ya but Obama is a Muslim. Ignore!
Huh? Are you sure you are on the right thread? When did I mention Obama or for that matter anything to do with Muslims?

With that said, it's frankly not very nice to go around calling people "crooks" when all you are basing this on it's speculation. The NYC DA has been investing the President and the Trump Organization for 4 plus years, there has yet to be an indictment.....let a lone a conviction.
NO you misunderstood but you probably are the only one, It was a example of how pitiful you haters have become. Yur arguments Are simpleton points to try to chance the subject, I'll write this out for you to understand Comment from intelligent Democrats referring to the fact that trump is a criminal piece of shit, now for the stupid brain dead response from the normal right winger "Ya but Obama was a Muslim. This is done because they have nothing ever to argue against charges by the democrats because they ran out of excuses totally by this point, hence stupid remarks to try to justify what their scum group does by what someone has done in the past. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND< I THINK I CAN EVEN DUMB IT DONE MORE IF NEEDED SO LET ME KNOW.
No i don't understand, because nobody here referred to Obama or Muslims, nor has Trump been convicted of any crimes to be called a criminal.

So.....

Anyway, step away from the computer and take a xanex....you seem very angry....and aren't making much sense
You are a waste of energy, it's quite simple me even responding to you is ridiculous , everyone who supported the destruction of our country and democracy , to force in a Ass hole dictator no longer has a voice in this country , They are simply traitors to this country an we shoot traitors in this country.
i am not aware of any time we had a dictator in this country

we have certainly had some president"s like fdr>>>and obama that have taken great leaps with their power< but not a dictator

as far as destruction of our country and democracy>>>>we have seen president"s attack our democracy< two in recent memory>>>>>one was VP at the time>>>where they plotted with members of the admin to undermine the newly elected president< spread false narratives about a russian conspiracy>>>>sad stuff

the other folks to blame are the propagandist that have done the work for that party< like the ones that did the work for hitler>>>>your post highlights your rage< and anger<hate, the misinformation......sadly your post reflects a success for the Natonial Sociali....er DNC
Like dealing with a child, a 3rd grade and not even a intelegent 3rd grader. He Thinks that it is Ok that Trump tried to bring down our country and destroy our republic to force himself in as a dictator, because it, ok because he thinks , stupidly that others were worse. The logic of the hate Nazi's is amazing
You know what's really funny?

When idiots like you disparage someone else's intelligence but misspell the word intelligent
Let me see should I care what a person who sold out my country to force in a piece of shit dictator thinks about me. Mmmm that's a hard one.
 

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Them going after Trump makes him a man of the people and more relatable
Oh i see. Could you give me another example of this? You know... A billionaire becoming a "man of the people", because the IRS went after him. Because, frankly, i think what you are saying is nonsense.
Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
Same type of Rally that Hitler had exactly the same.
in some respects yes....both well attended, high energy, and orderly......the only real difference is Trump discussed freedom, while Hitler went on and on about socialist ideas....the sort of thing that you'd see at the DNC Convention
So did Hitler talk non stop about freedom , and Trump by far was more hateful in his speeches then Hitler was. Where did Trump learn this type of political control from.. Its from the only book this pig ever read in his life and it was on his bed stand every night where he read it constantly, The book "My New Order" by guess who hot shot. Bozo brain is known for one thing and that is never reading a book. The most stupid remark of the day, YOU CAN"T FIND A RESPECTABLE SOURCE THAT SAYS HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST < HE HATED THEM WITH A PASSION>THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WILL SAY THAT ARE RIGHT WING HATE NAZI SOURCES> STUPID CHARGE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIST < WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO SOCIALISM COMMUNISM OR MARXISM IN NUMBERS ENOUGH TO FILL A TEA POT> THAT IS TOP NOTCH HATE PARTY STUPID,.
I've read a lot of books about Hitler and Nazi Germany, you should give it a chance as well, educate yourself, maybe then you wouldn't be a sheep for his policies the DNC pushes, or fall for their propganda so easily

I wouldn't say Trump had political control, quite the opposite! He was no polished politican with control, like Obama, Harris or Biden....or Hitler....that's for sure.....you maybe the only one that I know that would suggest he did

I am curious how you know Trump only read one book though....

Hitler started the National SOCIALIST German Worker's party.....what do you think NAZI means?
You have no clue what you are talking about ,The party was started by Anton Drexler, It was to pull People away from communism, it emerged from the populist freikorps paramilitary culture. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into volkish nationalism. The Socialist name was put in early at the advise of Martin Borman because of the popularity of the times in their interest of Socialism throughout Europe. Your just adding to peoples opinion on what a bullshitter you are, Fake it or lie until you make it. You lose again. when the open their mouths it is a lie always.
he was hitler"s mentor that formed the german worker"s party< yes they hated communism< and were socialist

the socialist name is because they believe in socialist principals>>>>but believed in a third way>>>facism>>>which is a combination of socialist and a little capitalism>>>>>what we are seeing from the modern dnc>>>>>where some large businesses are favored< and as long they work for the party
hated communist but were socialist, anything more stupid then that remark, hated Demacracy but were a republic. or hated republic but were a demacracy. Ya you betcha!
um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea

a Democracy is system of Govt in which the people vote, usually using a Republic style of Govt, in which they vote for Representatives, who do the legislation. It's more like enjoying coffee, but enjoying a tall mug to deliver it.
You have no clue , you are a non stop bullshiter, So you say communism and socialism are the same, here you go hotshot buried under you ignorance one more time, everything you have said in this whole thread has been bullshit-So what did Marx and Engelssay about your bullshit------"The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism - Wikipedia, like I said I love debating stupid people its like bullying the smallest person in the room.
No actually I said they aren't the same....because they are two totally different things I like how you say what did Marx say, and then refer to a Wiki page..

but Sociallism is certainly a "lower form" if you will. Socialism is when Govt owns the means and production....Communism is when there is no Govt at all, the people own it all collectively. Socialism was what Marx referred to as the middle stage between Capitalism and Communism.

We have never had a true Communist society in the World..only different degrees of Socialism....Hitler believed in yet another way....Mussonlini's Fascism....which, is what we see the modern Dems pushing in this country. A system where the Govt allows 'some" private businesses, typically large big businesses, to operate, so long as they are doing work for the party.
You can;t make anyone believe they aren't the same if Marx and Engels says they are exactly the same and used both to define The same thing. won't work ace , one more time for effect here is your stupid remark"um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea" and here is what Marx and Engels said about it.""The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism " Again you are buried under your own ignorance and I;m caring the shovel that is doing it.
They didn't say they were the same....you aren't quoting Marx and Engels you are quoting wikipedia

Communism is when the public, the people as whole, own the means of production, and the results of the means....there is no Govt

Socialism, is when the Govt own the means of production, and the results....Communism is a more advanced form of Socialism....the next stage if you will.
 

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Them going after Trump makes him a man of the people and more relatable
Oh i see. Could you give me another example of this? You know... A billionaire becoming a "man of the people", because the IRS went after him. Because, frankly, i think what you are saying is nonsense.
Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
Same type of Rally that Hitler had exactly the same.
in some respects yes....both well attended, high energy, and orderly......the only real difference is Trump discussed freedom, while Hitler went on and on about socialist ideas....the sort of thing that you'd see at the DNC Convention
So did Hitler talk non stop about freedom , and Trump by far was more hateful in his speeches then Hitler was. Where did Trump learn this type of political control from.. Its from the only book this pig ever read in his life and it was on his bed stand every night where he read it constantly, The book "My New Order" by guess who hot shot. Bozo brain is known for one thing and that is never reading a book. The most stupid remark of the day, YOU CAN"T FIND A RESPECTABLE SOURCE THAT SAYS HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST < HE HATED THEM WITH A PASSION>THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WILL SAY THAT ARE RIGHT WING HATE NAZI SOURCES> STUPID CHARGE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIST < WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO SOCIALISM COMMUNISM OR MARXISM IN NUMBERS ENOUGH TO FILL A TEA POT> THAT IS TOP NOTCH HATE PARTY STUPID,.
I've read a lot of books about Hitler and Nazi Germany, you should give it a chance as well, educate yourself, maybe then you wouldn't be a sheep for his policies the DNC pushes, or fall for their propganda so easily

I wouldn't say Trump had political control, quite the opposite! He was no polished politican with control, like Obama, Harris or Biden....or Hitler....that's for sure.....you maybe the only one that I know that would suggest he did

I am curious how you know Trump only read one book though....

Hitler started the National SOCIALIST German Worker's party.....what do you think NAZI means?
You have no clue what you are talking about ,The party was started by Anton Drexler, It was to pull People away from communism, it emerged from the populist freikorps paramilitary culture. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into volkish nationalism. The Socialist name was put in early at the advise of Martin Borman because of the popularity of the times in their interest of Socialism throughout Europe. Your just adding to peoples opinion on what a bullshitter you are, Fake it or lie until you make it. You lose again. when the open their mouths it is a lie always.
he was hitler"s mentor that formed the german worker"s party< yes they hated communism< and were socialist

the socialist name is because they believe in socialist principals>>>>but believed in a third way>>>facism>>>which is a combination of socialist and a little capitalism>>>>>what we are seeing from the modern dnc>>>>>where some large businesses are favored< and as long they work for the party
hated communist but were socialist, anything more stupid then that remark, hated Demacracy but were a republic. or hated republic but were a demacracy. Ya you betcha!
um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea

a Democracy is system of Govt in which the people vote, usually using a Republic style of Govt, in which they vote for Representatives, who do the legislation. It's more like enjoying coffee, but enjoying a tall mug to deliver it.
You have no clue , you are a non stop bullshiter, So you say communism and socialism are the same, here you go hotshot buried under you ignorance one more time, everything you have said in this whole thread has been bullshit-So what did Marx and Engelssay about your bullshit------"The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism - Wikipedia, like I said I love debating stupid people its like bullying the smallest person in the room.
No actually I said they aren't the same....because they are two totally different things I like how you say what did Marx say, and then refer to a Wiki page..

but Sociallism is certainly a "lower form" if you will. Socialism is when Govt owns the means and production....Communism is when there is no Govt at all, the people own it all collectively. Socialism was what Marx referred to as the middle stage between Capitalism and Communism.

We have never had a true Communist society in the World..only different degrees of Socialism....Hitler believed in yet another way....Mussonlini's Fascism....which, is what we see the modern Dems pushing in this country. A system where the Govt allows 'some" private businesses, typically large big businesses, to operate, so long as they are doing work for the party.
You can;t make anyone believe they aren't the same if Marx and Engels says they are exactly the same and used both to define The same thing. won't work ace , one more time for effect here is your stupid remark"um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea" and here is what Marx and Engels said about it.""The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism " Again you are buried under your own ignorance and I;m caring the shovel that is doing it.
They didn't say they were the same....you aren't quoting Marx and Engels you are quoting wikipedia

Communism is when the public, the people as whole, own the means of production, and the results of the means....there is no Govt

Socialism, is when the Govt own the means of production, and the results....Communism is a more advanced form of Socialism....the next stage if you will.
Idiot what does this mean , yourt full of crap ""The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, " your so full of crap
 

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You know they are not just idiots but total idiots when they can't admit to being wrong From the great bullshitter "
.Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea' and he thinks he is a expert
"
 

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Them going after Trump makes him a man of the people and more relatable
Oh i see. Could you give me another example of this? You know... A billionaire becoming a "man of the people", because the IRS went after him. Because, frankly, i think what you are saying is nonsense.
Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
Same type of Rally that Hitler had exactly the same.
in some respects yes....both well attended, high energy, and orderly......the only real difference is Trump discussed freedom, while Hitler went on and on about socialist ideas....the sort of thing that you'd see at the DNC Convention
So did Hitler talk non stop about freedom , and Trump by far was more hateful in his speeches then Hitler was. Where did Trump learn this type of political control from.. Its from the only book this pig ever read in his life and it was on his bed stand every night where he read it constantly, The book "My New Order" by guess who hot shot. Bozo brain is known for one thing and that is never reading a book. The most stupid remark of the day, YOU CAN"T FIND A RESPECTABLE SOURCE THAT SAYS HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST < HE HATED THEM WITH A PASSION>THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WILL SAY THAT ARE RIGHT WING HATE NAZI SOURCES> STUPID CHARGE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIST < WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO SOCIALISM COMMUNISM OR MARXISM IN NUMBERS ENOUGH TO FILL A TEA POT> THAT IS TOP NOTCH HATE PARTY STUPID,.
I've read a lot of books about Hitler and Nazi Germany, you should give it a chance as well, educate yourself, maybe then you wouldn't be a sheep for his policies the DNC pushes, or fall for their propganda so easily

I wouldn't say Trump had political control, quite the opposite! He was no polished politican with control, like Obama, Harris or Biden....or Hitler....that's for sure.....you maybe the only one that I know that would suggest he did

I am curious how you know Trump only read one book though....

Hitler started the National SOCIALIST German Worker's party.....what do you think NAZI means?
You have no clue what you are talking about ,The party was started by Anton Drexler, It was to pull People away from communism, it emerged from the populist freikorps paramilitary culture. The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into volkish nationalism. The Socialist name was put in early at the advise of Martin Borman because of the popularity of the times in their interest of Socialism throughout Europe. Your just adding to peoples opinion on what a bullshitter you are, Fake it or lie until you make it. You lose again. when the open their mouths it is a lie always.
he was hitler"s mentor that formed the german worker"s party< yes they hated communism< and were socialist

the socialist name is because they believe in socialist principals>>>>but believed in a third way>>>facism>>>which is a combination of socialist and a little capitalism>>>>>what we are seeing from the modern dnc>>>>>where some large businesses are favored< and as long they work for the party
hated communist but were socialist, anything more stupid then that remark, hated Demacracy but were a republic. or hated republic but were a demacracy. Ya you betcha!
um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea

a Democracy is system of Govt in which the people vote, usually using a Republic style of Govt, in which they vote for Representatives, who do the legislation. It's more like enjoying coffee, but enjoying a tall mug to deliver it.
You have no clue , you are a non stop bullshiter, So you say communism and socialism are the same, here you go hotshot buried under you ignorance one more time, everything you have said in this whole thread has been bullshit-So what did Marx and Engelssay about your bullshit------"The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism - Wikipedia, like I said I love debating stupid people its like bullying the smallest person in the room.
No actually I said they aren't the same....because they are two totally different things I like how you say what did Marx say, and then refer to a Wiki page..

but Sociallism is certainly a "lower form" if you will. Socialism is when Govt owns the means and production....Communism is when there is no Govt at all, the people own it all collectively. Socialism was what Marx referred to as the middle stage between Capitalism and Communism.

We have never had a true Communist society in the World..only different degrees of Socialism....Hitler believed in yet another way....Mussonlini's Fascism....which, is what we see the modern Dems pushing in this country. A system where the Govt allows 'some" private businesses, typically large big businesses, to operate, so long as they are doing work for the party.
You can;t make anyone believe they aren't the same if Marx and Engels says they are exactly the same and used both to define The same thing. won't work ace , one more time for effect here is your stupid remark"um....Communism and Socialism are two different systems. It's more like hating coffee, but enjoying hot tea" and here is what Marx and Engels said about it.""The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, is a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that emerge from capitalism in the schema of historical materialism within Marxist theory." Communism " Again you are buried under your own ignorance and I;m caring the shovel that is doing it.
They didn't say they were the same....you aren't quoting Marx and Engels you are quoting wikipedia

Communism is when the public, the people as whole, own the means of production, and the results of the means....there is no Govt

Socialism, is when the Govt own the means of production, and the results....Communism is a more advanced form of Socialism....the next stage if you will.
Idiot what does this mean , yourt full of crap ""The socialist mode of production, also referred to as the communist mode of production, the lower-stage of communism or simply socialism as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably, " your so full of crap
That means you quoted wikipedia.

I told you the difference between the two.....

Marx himself didn't refer to socialism as socialism, he simply referred to it as "a Communist society that has not reached its higher stage" Critique of the Gotha Programme, Karl Marx

But he recognized that they were two different things, clearly
 

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Look at his rallies. He's far more a man of the people than the Democrats could ever hope to be. And that is what scares them. I'm sure his attorneys and accountants examined and used every legal loophole available to avoid paying taxes, just so Democrats don't steal our money to spend it on gender studies and donate it to countries who hate us.
All of America saw his nauseating rallies. Clearly they produced more votes for Biden than for Trump. Trump's 2020 campaign rallies during a pandemic were actually Biden rallies. We count votes, not enthusiasm points or the tears of sore losers. Votes.
Yawn, Trump got 74 million, nine million more legitimate votes than Hillary did in 2016, and a record number of minority, black and women voters. Trump's rallies were attended by average everyday middle class working Americans, from all races and walks of life.
Never saw anybody celebrate a losing vote count as much as Republicans.
74 million lost by 7 million votes
74 million got hIm 232 Electoral votes
74 million was a lower percent of the popular vote

Its like bragging you scored 28 points in the Super Bowl without mentioning the other team scored 35.
" Its like bragging you scored 28 points in the Super Bowl without mentioning the other team scored 35. "

No, it's like you're the 1990 49ers and put up 55 points to break the record for most points scored in a Superbowl and you still lose because the refs awarded Denver 53 points for every touchdown.
 
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