BREAKING: The UN concludes that Israel has established an APARTHEID REGIME...

[RoccoR]

RE: BREAKING: The UN concludes that Israel has established an APARTHEID REGIME...
※→ et al,

"Door Mat of Israel:" Well, that is simply a repeated ⇒ desperate and inflammatory political rhetoric (by anti-American and anti-Israel elements) that pushes the image that America is the habitually abuse or humiliation by Israel. There is absolutely no such thing as a perfect political relationship; although the Declaration of Principles (DOP) is an idealized aspiration. In fact, this is one of the very few (negative) "absolutes" that can be expressed in terms of political relationships. Political relationships are best described in comparatives. In this case, the US-Israeli Political Relationship is the best of all political relationships in the greater region of the Middle East. And the burden, by fiscal density, may be highest in the Middle East, it is far from the most significant in the world and US National Security Interests.

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As you can see, while Israel is at the ≈ median, it falls in between Bahrain (which gets a little more) and Qatar (which gets a little less).

Eagle...you do realise the BRICK she was alluding to was none other than Furher Donald Trump,just out of view.......now that is FUNNY and Ironic,being Israel dictates All American Policy as America, is now the Official 2nd State of Zionist Terrorist Israel...........How the Mighty have fallen,reduced to being the DOOR MAT OF ISRAEL.......

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I have no idea how to translate the words of description: "Official 2nd State of Zionist Terrorist Israel"

While Israel can be said to be a "strategic ally" in Regional Terms, it is not the only ally being cultivates. The Mediterranean Dialogue, s a set of discussions pertaining to expanded linkages --- not only with Israel; but also in a developing and structured partnerships with Russia and its network of allies.

In terms of "terrorism," it is perspective. It was only the other day that Rabbi Raziel Shevach was killed in a drive-by shooting near the city of Nalbus, West Bank (January 10, 2017). t can be a vision in which Dalal Mughrabi, who headed a squad of 13 Palestinian (1978) who set out from Lebanon towards Israel, in several small boats.
How to Respond to Honors for Palestinian Killer of US Senator’s Niece

One of the terrorists, Hussain Fayadh, later explained to the Lebanese Television station Al-Manar what happened: “Sister Dalal al-Mughrabi had a conversation with the American journalist. Before killing her, Dalal asked: ‘How did you enter Palestine?’ [Rubin] answered: ‘They gave me a visa.’ Dalal said: ‘Did you get your visa from me, or from Israel? I have the right to this land. Why didn’t you come to me?’ Then Dalal opened fire on her.”

Mughrabi, Fayadh, and the others walked to the nearby Coastal Road and hijacked an Israeli bus. They murdered 36 passengers, 12 of them children.
SOURCE: The algemeiner, Story by Stephen M. Flatow

The comparison between the Israeli Forces and the Jihadist, the Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric fighters of Arab Palestinians is no contest. Israel simply does not have a past history of criminal behaviors ⇒ hijack aircraft, capture and hold cruise ships, intentionally target civilian people, objects and locations. Israel does not threaten to use unlawful violence to incite fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate Israeli citizenry in the pursuit of goals that are central to the Arab Palestinian key political, religious, or ideological agenda.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

In terms of "terrorism," it is perspective. It was only the other day that Rabbi Raziel Shevach was killed in a drive-by shooting near the city of Nalbus, West Bank (January 10, 2017).

Why do Israel's lackeys constantly bring up the same few incidents while ignoring the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The comparison between the Israeli Forces and the Jihadist, the Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric fighters of Arab Palestinians is no contest.

Indeed, Israel is trying to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the Palestinians while the Palestinians are trying to defend themselves. There is no contest.

 

[Hollie]

In terms of "terrorism," it is perspective. It was only the other day that Rabbi Raziel Shevach was killed in a drive-by shooting near the city of Nalbus, West Bank (January 10, 2017).

Why do Israel's lackeys constantly bring up the same few incidents while ignoring the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel?

It’s not intended to be a “fair fight”.

“We Love Death as you love life”

Using civilians as human shields is not denied by your Islamic terrorist heroes. What’s the issue?

 

[P F Tinmore]

In terms of "terrorism," it is perspective. It was only the other day that Rabbi Raziel Shevach was killed in a drive-by shooting near the city of Nalbus, West Bank (January 10, 2017).

Why do Israel's lackeys constantly bring up the same few incidents while ignoring the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel?

It’s not intended to be a “fair fight”.

“We Love Death as you love life”

Using civilians as human shields is not denied by your Islamic terrorist heroes. What’s the issue?

Oh jeese, not the old human shield canard again.

 

[Shusha]

The comparison between the Israeli Forces and the Jihadist, the Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric fighters of Arab Palestinians is no contest.

Indeed, Israel is trying to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the Palestinians while the Palestinians are trying to defend themselves. There is no contest.

Palestinians are not trying to defend themselves -- as they are not under attack.

What they are trying to do is gain sovereign control of territory over which they have no sovereignty and have never had any sovereignty, based on the idea that the territory is "theirs" and they have sole rights to self-determination there, while failing to put into place any of the requirements for sovereignty.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The comparison between the Israeli Forces and the Jihadist, the Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric fighters of Arab Palestinians is no contest.

Indeed, Israel is trying to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the Palestinians while the Palestinians are trying to defend themselves. There is no contest.

Palestinians are not trying to defend themselves -- as they are not under attack.

What they are trying to do is gain sovereign control of territory over which they have no sovereignty and have never had any sovereignty, based on the idea that the territory is "theirs" and they have sole rights to self-determination there.

The Palestinians are under attack every day.

 

[Shusha]

And further, ask yourself WHY they don't put into place any of the requirements for sovereignty? Because if they did, and established sovereignty over part of the territory and then they went after Israel's sovereign territory they would be invaders of another's sovereign territory and universally condemned as such. (You can't keep territory won by force, remember?)

 

[PredFan]

Here we go, folks. Not that I don't enjoy "I told ya sos," but...

This report concludes that Israel has established an apartheid regime that dominates the Palestinian people as a whole. Aware of the seriousness of this allegation, the authors of the report conclude that available evidence establishes beyond a reasonable doubt that Israel is guilty of policies and practices that constitute the crime of apartheid as legally defined in instruments of international law...

https://www.unescwa.org/sites/www.u...heid-occupation-executive-summary-english.pdf

The UN is an anti-Israeli, anti-US organization and isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit.

 

[P F Tinmore]

(You can't keep territory won by force, remember?)

Indeed, and what part of Israel was not taken by force?

 

[Shusha]

The comparison between the Israeli Forces and the Jihadist, the Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric fighters of Arab Palestinians is no contest.

Indeed, Israel is trying to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the Palestinians while the Palestinians are trying to defend themselves. There is no contest.

Palestinians are not trying to defend themselves -- as they are not under attack.

What they are trying to do is gain sovereign control of territory over which they have no sovereignty and have never had any sovereignty, based on the idea that the territory is "theirs" and they have sole rights to self-determination there.

The Palestinians are under attack every day.

Not so. Those living peaceful lives are living peaceful lives.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: BREAKING: The UN concludes that Israel has established an APARTHEID REGIME...
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

First --- to the point: I don't think the UN concluded that Israel established an "Apartheid Regime." But yo have an opportunity to convince me by answering (or addressing) each element of the offense under international law, and not some phony arbitrary extrapolation by an anti-Semitic activity. Most of these quasi-humanitarian organizations (both UN and NGO) tend to mold and shape the international law as a means to set the conditions for pre-judicial convictions; pro-Palestinian → anti-Israeli → judgments under the color of law.

In terms of "terrorism," it is perspective. It was only the other day that Rabbi Raziel Shevach was killed in a drive-by shooting near the city of Nalbus, West Bank (January 10, 2017).

Why do Israel's lackeys constantly bring up the same few incidents while ignoring the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel?

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They are just the easiest Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) to find. Hell, there are several thousand rocket and mortar attacks in violation of Customary International Humanitarian Law (IHL) Rule #11→ Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited.

When you say "the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel" your implication is that the unfortunate were intentionally targeted by the Israelis. I submit that the high number of Palestinian Casualties is a product of (but not limited to):

(ψ) Propaganda Inflated Numbers with the intent to further incite conflict.
(ψ) Propaganda Inflated Numbers by accumulation over time.
(ψ) Customary IHL Rule #23 Locating military objectives within or near densely populated areas.
(ψ) Customary IHL Rule #24 Failure to remove civilian persons and objects under its control from the vicinity of military objectives.
(ψ) Customary IHL Rule #97 “Utilizing the presence of civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations.”
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The HoAP praise and reward of all pro-Palestinian acts, methods and practices of terrorism, wherever and by whomever committed. They indoctrinate children into the acceptance that such activities are not only legal, but a patriotic necessity.

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(ψ) Over the last two years (+) 13 September 2015 - to - 10 January 2018:

✪ 61 people have been killed in terrorist attacks
✪ 881 Israeli and un-involved Palestinians were injured as a result of an act of Terrorism.

• Over 180 stabbing attacks occurred.
• 138 attempted stabbings;
• 170 shootings;
• 60 vehicular (ramming) attacks;

✪ 54 terrorist attacks were successfully carried out,
✪ 400 terrorist attacks, including

→ 13 suicide attacks
→ 8 kidnappings,
→ 1,100 potential lone-wolf attacks, were prevented.​

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The HoAP openly admit and hail participants involved (directly or indirectly) in the organizing, instigating, facilitating, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities. The HoAP take practical measures to ensure that their territories are used for terrorist installations, training camps, the preparation or
organization of terrorist acts intended to be committed against the Article 43, Hague Regulation to prevent the Occupation authority efforts to restore, and ensure, public unrest and safety.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Shusha]

(You can't keep territory won by force, remember?)

Indeed, and what part of Israel was not taken by force?

None of it. (Perhaps the Golan Heights, but I think that is justifiable).

In a two State solution -- how much of sovereign Israel do you think Palestine will be able to take by force? Both physically and with the support of the international community?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The comparison between the Israeli Forces and the Jihadist, the Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric fighters of Arab Palestinians is no contest.

Indeed, Israel is trying to steal all of Palestine and get rid of the Palestinians while the Palestinians are trying to defend themselves. There is no contest.

Palestinians are not trying to defend themselves -- as they are not under attack.

What they are trying to do is gain sovereign control of territory over which they have no sovereignty and have never had any sovereignty, based on the idea that the territory is "theirs" and they have sole rights to self-determination there.

The Palestinians are under attack every day.

Not so. Those living peaceful lives are living peaceful lives.

Palestinians have been attacked in their own villages since before 1948 and those attacks continue today. Who are they attacking while sitting at home?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: BREAKING: The UN concludes that Israel has established an APARTHEID REGIME...
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

First --- to the point: I don't think the UN concluded that Israel established an "Apartheid Regime." But yo have an opportunity to convince me by answering (or addressing) each element of the offense under international law, and not some phony arbitrary extrapolation by an anti-Semitic activity. Most of these quasi-humanitarian organizations (both UN and NGO) tend to mold and shape the international law as a means to set the conditions for pre-judicial convictions; pro-Palestinian → anti-Israeli → judgments under the color of law.

In terms of "terrorism," it is perspective. It was only the other day that Rabbi Raziel Shevach was killed in a drive-by shooting near the city of Nalbus, West Bank (January 10, 2017).

Why do Israel's lackeys constantly bring up the same few incidents while ignoring the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel?

(COMMENT)

They are just the easiest Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) to find. Hell, there are several thousand rocket and mortar attacks in violation of Customary International Humanitarian Law (IHL) Rule #11→ Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited.

When you say "the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel" your implication is that the unfortunate were intentionally targeted by the Israelis. I submit that the high number of Palestinian Casualties is a product of (but not limited to):

(ψ) Propaganda Inflated Numbers with the intent to further incite conflict.
(ψ) Propaganda Inflated Numbers by accumulation over time.
(ψ) Customary IHL Rule #23 Locating military objectives within or near densely populated areas.
(ψ) Customary IHL Rule #24 Failure to remove civilian persons and objects under its control from the vicinity of military objectives.
(ψ) Customary IHL Rule #97 “Utilizing the presence of civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations.”
​

The HoAP praise and reward of all pro-Palestinian acts, methods and practices of terrorism, wherever and by whomever committed. They indoctrinate children into the acceptance that such activities are not only legal, but a patriotic necessity.

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(ψ) Over the last two years (+) 13 September 2015 - to - 10 January 2018:

✪ 61 people have been killed in terrorist attacks
✪ 881 Israeli and un-involved Palestinians were injured as a result of an act of Terrorism.

• Over 180 stabbing attacks occurred.
• 138 attempted stabbings;
• 170 shootings;
• 60 vehicular (ramming) attacks;

✪ 54 terrorist attacks were successfully carried out,
✪ 400 terrorist attacks, including

→ 13 suicide attacks
→ 8 kidnappings,
→ 1,100 potential lone-wolf attacks, were prevented.​

​

The HoAP openly admit and hail participants involved (directly or indirectly) in the organizing, instigating, facilitating, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities. The HoAP take practical measures to ensure that their territories are used for terrorist installations, training camps, the preparation or
organization of terrorist acts intended to be committed against the Article 43, Hague Regulation to prevent the Occupation authority efforts to restore, and ensure, public unrest and safety.

Most Respectfully,
R

Nice deflection.

 

[P F Tinmore]

(You can't keep territory won by force, remember?)

Indeed, and what part of Israel was not taken by force?

None of it. (Perhaps the Golan Heights, but I think that is justifiable).

In a two State solution -- how much of sovereign Israel do you think Palestine will be able to take by force? Both physically and with the support of the international community?

Perhaps you could provide some documents showing where Israel legally acquired any land.

I await your response.

 

[Shusha]

Palestinians have been attacked in their own villages since before 1948 and those attacks continue today. Who are they attacking while sitting at home?

Those attacks continue today? Your claim is that Israel is killing ("attacking") those who are just sitting in their homes? Pah-leese. Give me an example.

Don't give me stupid examples like Ahed -- who was not sitting in her home but was part of on-going violent regular demonstrations. Don't give me stupid examples like "innocent" stabbing attacks -- they were also not sitting in their homes. And don't give me stupid examples like those innocents caught up in a war caused by people not sitting in their homes but actively attacking Israel's civilian citizens.

Peaceful Arab Palestinians are NOT being attacked. Those who are actively attempting to remove Israel's sovereignty through acts of violence are being properly responded to by law enforcement. No attempts to remove Israel's sovereignty -- no "attacks". Again, Arab Palestinians sitting at home are NOT being attacked and therefore have no need to defend themselves against anything. (Please note this is not true for Israelis -- who ARE being attacked literally just sitting at home eating a celebratory Shabbat dinner.)

 

[Shusha]

Perhaps you could provide some documents showing where Israel legally acquired any land.

I await your response.

You know my response. You ignore it because it proves you wrong and you don't like it. Speed dial me up the Mandate for Palestine -- AGAIN. Or the Oslo Accords -- AGAIN.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Don't give me stupid examples like Ahed -- who was not sitting in her home but was part of on-going violent regular demonstrations.

Demonstrations in their own village. Who was that so called violence against?

 

[Shusha]

Don't give me stupid examples like Ahed -- who was not sitting in her home but was part of on-going violent regular demonstrations.

Demonstrations in their own village. Who was that so called violence against?

The people they are throwing rocks and molotovs at? If they are just "in their own village" then who are they demonstrating against? Who is going to see them? Why bother?