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SureShould we tell you how it reflects on your dear leader?
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SureShould we tell you how it reflects on your dear leader?
No he was democratically elected and very popular since he cleaned up the country there and made it safeIs that because Bukele is an authoritarian dictator of El Salvador?
Oh?No he was democratically elected and very popular since he cleaned up the country there and made it safe
He’s a radical leftist dictator that sent the military into the legislature to intimidate congressmen
Don't bother, I can guess all of the pejoratives you'd like to spew here, However, on the pure facts here, which is what I stated, logically, you can't refute them, so you want to as usual start down a path of denigration, and slur....So, no, I am not interested in your further narrative unless you can posit a coherent argument of what you dream goes on from this point....Thanks.Should we tell you how it reflects on your dear leader?
Not a lib, but are you talking about the actual letters / numbers that say "MS 13" above the symbols?
Wow
You are a liar. I did answer
Rigby said it was afke you lied about his claim
Why? Because one wrong does not justify another wrong.First, they are not undocumented immigrants. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS.
I’m sure there are hundreds of Americans who, for one reason or other, have been denied due process or had the legal system used against them. Why did you not, for example, care about the grandmother with cancer who was jailed when she walked into the Capitol when the police officer invited her in? Why do you liberals care more about a violent illegal alien?
And also, nobody has the right to be with their family, as you stated above.
That was democratically elected and made the country far safer since cracking down on gangs
At first glance some people thought 'wow, he got the letters and numbers "MS13" tattooed right on his fingers,' but nearly instantly thought, 'wait no, that is some kind of guide put there by law enforcement claiming the symbols represent "MS13."'
And all of this already happened....Today, he is in ES, and not coming back....Now what?Why? Because one wrong does not justify another wrong.
Being in the US without documentation per sec is not illegal. So calling them illegal alien without additional information is inaccurate.
Before the Trump era, when immigration laws and the Constitution were more consistently followed, individuals suspected of entering the country illegally were typically detained, not arrested. They were first given the option of voluntary deportation. If they declined, they remained in detention and were scheduled for a hearing in immigration court, which is a civil, not a criminal court.
During the hearing, all rules of due process applied. Detainees had the right to present their case, either on their own or through legal representation but the proceedings had to be conducted in English. Importantly, the court did not provide legal counsel.
If the detainee was unable to produce documentation proving lawful presence in the U.S., or if they failed to meet one of several legal criteria, the judge would issue a deportation order. However, the detainee had the right to request a review if they believed their case had not been handled fairly.
How can you say he received due process?Oh, we "get" what you believe. We don't accept the conclusions you reach
He's had "due process." And now he's back home and no amount of screaming at the sky will bring this thing back to this country
And he did not have an MS 13 tattooHow can you say he received due process?
First, he was in this country under a protective order issue by a federal judge. That was ignored.
Second, His right to a fair hearing with legal representation was ignored.
Last, the right to a legal review was ignored.
If the president can shred the constitution and ignore court orders in this case, it is a very short path to doing the same in other cases. And that is the most troubling thing about this case, not whether Garcia had a ms-13 tattoo.
And he's not coming back......And he did not have an MS 13 tattoo

You’re pretty pathetic.That was democratically elected and made the country far safer since cracking down on gangs
What did I say that was incorrect?You’re pretty pathetic.
Pot calls kettle black......You’re pretty pathetic.

If Garcia's protection order (withholding of removal status) was lifted, which appellate court resented the order.Killmore Abrego Garcia had all of those, at least twice.
He was ruled to be deportable, by judges who verified that he was a leader in MS13. Just not to El Salvador. whoops . .
In the extremely unlikely event that el salvador decides to send him to the united states (why, of all countries?), he would be subject to immediate deportation to any other country besides el Salvador or the united states.
Killmore may not be out of the United States quite as quickly as Obama got the illegal aliens off of his little island paradise Marthas Vinyard.. But he will be leaving.
The liberal tears when that happens, will be delicious.
No they did not move to get away from ms13If Garcia's protection order (withholding of removal status) was lifted, which appellate court reseeded the order.
Garcia and family had moved twice to get out of MS-13 territory in El Salvador where they were constantly under treats from MS-13 for not paying tributes and rents. It seems pretty far fetched that Garcia would seek membership in this gang. He and his family spend years trying MS-13 and Barrio 18.
Bottom line is we sent someone who has never been convicted of a crime in US or anywhere who was under a protection order by a federal judge to one of harshest prisons in the world for life based on double here say evidence and a tattoo that could indicate gang membership.
Is this really happening in the United States?
I heard a rumor Obama and Biden did the same thing and nobody cared.If Garcia's protection order (withholding of removal status) was lifted, which appellate court reseeded the order.
Garcia and family had moved twice to get out of MS-13 territory in El Salvador where they were constantly under treats from MS-13 for not paying tributes and rents. It seems pretty far fetched that Garcia would seek membership in this gang. He and his family spend years trying MS-13 and Barrio 18.
Bottom line is we sent someone who has never been convicted of a crime in US or anywhere who was under a protection order by a federal judge to one of harshest prisons in the world for life based on double here say evidence and a tattoo that could indicate gang membership.
Is this really happening in the United States?