Breaking: NYTimes -- Trump asked Comey to shut down Flynn Investigation.

Don't you want to apologize for doubting me when I said that Bill 'the rapist' Clinton added 41% to the national debt?

Remember how you ran from that post?

Apologize. That means Clinton added less to the national debt than anybody since Eisenhower. Clinton inherited deficits from "read my lips" Bush, and turned them into surpluses. So compare Clinton's 41% to Regans 300%, Bush's 200%

Yeah, i'm proud of Clinton's 41%.
 
THE LIARS KEEP GOING ON THIS DEAD HORSE I SEE

GSE Critics Ignore Loan Performance

Money talks. It says the only way to measure the quality of mortgage underwriting is to track loan performance delinquency and default rates, loss severity in comparison with the rest of the mortgage market. Otherwise, any analysis of the government-sponsored enterprises' role in housing finance is meaningless.

And yet, critics demanding GSE reform ignore the topic altogether. Search through any book or article promoting the thesis that the GSEs helped cause the mortgage crisis for a passage comparing GSE loan performance with the rest of the market. Almost certainly, you will come up empty-handed.

There is no data anywhere to cast doubt on the vastly superior loan performance of the GSEs. Year after year, decade after decade, before, during and after the housing crash, GSE loan performance has consistently been two-to-six times better than that of any other segment of the market. The numbers are irrefutable, and they show that the entire case against GSE underwriting standards, and their role in the financial crisis, is based on social stereotyping, smoke and mirrors, and little else.
https://www.americanbanker.com/opinion/gse-critics-ignore-loan-performance\

BUT DUBYA WANTED TO REFORM F/F? WEIRD HE HAD A GOP HOUSE FOR 6 YEARS WHICH BILL GOT THROUGH THE HOUSE AGAIN? YOU KNOW THE ONE DUBYA OPPOSED?


Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again

Testimony from W's Treasury Secretary John Snow to the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS concerning the 'regulation of the GSE's 2004

Mr. (BARNEY) Frank: ...Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Secretary Snow. No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.


June 17, 2004

(CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis


The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007," the President's Working Group on Financial Markets

Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis

Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF


Time to put you in your place???


Sure thing.


a. Congress passed a bill in 1975 requiring banks to provide the government with information on their lending activities in poor urban areas. Two years later, it passed the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which gave regulators the power to deny banks the right to expand if they didn’t lend sufficiently in those neighborhoods. In 1979 the FDIC used the CRA to block a move by the Greater NY Savings Bank for not enough lending.

b. In 1986, when the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn) threatened to oppose an acquisition by a southern bank, Louisiana Bancshares, until it agreed to new “flexible credit and underwriting standards” for minority borrowers—for example, counting public assistance and food stamps as income.

c. In 1987, Acorn led a coalition of advocacy groups calling for industry-wide changes in lending standards. Among the demanded reforms were the easing of minimum down-payment requirements and of the requirement that borrowers have enough cash at a closing to cover two to three months of mortgage payments (research had shown that lack of money in hand was a big reason some mortgages failed quickly).

d. ACORN then attacked Fannie Mae, the giant quasi-government agency that bought loans from banks in order to allow them to make new loans. Its underwriters were “strictly by-the-book interpreters” of lending standards and turned down purchases of unconventional loans, charged Acorn. The pressure eventually paid off. In 1992, Congress passed legislation requiring Fannie Mae and the similar Freddie Mac to devote 30 percent of their loan purchases to mortgages for low- and moderate-income borrowers.

e. Clinton Administration housing secretary, Henry Cisneros, declared that he would expand homeownership among lower- and lower-middle-income renters. His strategy: pushing for no-down-payment loans; expanding the size of mortgages that the government would insure against losses; and using the CRA and other lending laws to direct more private money into low-income programs.

f. Shortly after Cisneros announced his plan, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac agreed to begin buying loans under new, looser guidelines. Freddie Mac, for instance, started approving low-income buyers with bad credit histories or none at all, so long as they were current on rent and utilities payments. Freddie Mac also said that it would begin counting income from seasonal jobs and public assistance toward its income minimum, despite the FHA disaster of the sixties.

g. Freddie Mac began an “alternative qualifying” program with the Sears Mortgage Corporation that let a borrower qualify for a loan with a monthly payment as high as 50 percent of his income, at a time when most private mortgage companies wouldn’t exceed 33 percent. The program also allowed borrowers with bad credit to get mortgages if they took credit-counseling classes administered by Acorn and other nonprofits. Subsequent research would show that such classes have little impact on default rates.

h. Pressuring nonbank lenders to make more loans to poor minorities didn’t stop with Sears. If it didn’t happen, Clinton officials warned, they’d seek to extend CRA regulations to all mortgage makers. In Congress, Representative Maxine Waters called financial firms not covered by the CRA “among the most egregious redliners.”

i. Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA) shocked the financial world by signing a 1994 agreement with the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), pledging to increase lending to minorities and join in new efforts to rewrite lending standards. The first MBA member to sign up: Countrywide Financial, the mortgage firm that would be at the core of the subprime meltdown.

j. A 1998 sales pitch by a Bear Stearns managing director advised banks to begin packaging their loans to low-income borrowers into securities that the firm could sell. Forget traditional underwriting standards when considering these loans, the director advised. For a low-income borrower, he continued in all-too-familiar terms, owning a home was “a near-sacred obligation. A family will do almost anything to meet that monthly mortgage payment.” Bunk, says Stan Liebowitz, a professor of economics at the University of Texas: “The claim that lower-income homeowners are somehow different in their devotion to their home is a purely emotional claim with no evidence to support it.”

k. Any concern was quickly dismissed. When in early 2000 the FDIC proposed increasing capital requirements for lenders making “subprime” loans—loans to people with questionable credit, that is—Democratic representative Carolyn Maloney of New York told a congressional hearing that she feared that the step would dry up CRA loans. Her fellow New York Democrat John J. LaFalce urged regulators “not to be premature” in imposing new regulations.

l. In July 1999, HUD proposed new levels for Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s low-income lending; in September, Fannie Mae agreed to begin purchasing loans made to “borrowers with slightly impaired credit”—that is, with credit standards even lower than the government had been pushing for a generation.

m. In 2004 Congress pressed new affordable-housing goals on the two mortgage giants, which through 2007 purchased some $1 trillion in loans to lower- and moderate-income buyers. The buying spree helped spark a massive increase in securitization of mortgages to people with dubious credit.

n. In October 1994, Fannie Mae head James Johnson had reminded a banking convention that mortgages with small down payments had a much higher risk of defaulting. (A Duff & Phelps study found that they were nearly three times more likely to default than conventional mortgages.) Yet the very next month, Fannie Mae said that it expected to back loans to low-income home buyers with a 97 percent loan-to-value ratio—that is, loans in which the buyer puts down just 3 percent—as part of a commitment, made earlier that year to Congress, to purchase $1 trillion in affordable-housing mortgages by the end of the nineties. According to Edward Pinto, who served as the company’s chief credit officer, the program was the result of political pressure on Fannie Mae trumping lending standards.

o. In 1992, the Boston Fed produced an extraordinary 29-page document that codified the new lending wisdom. Conventional mortgage criteria, the report argued, might be “unintentionally biased” because they didn’t take into account “the economic culture of urban, lower-income and nontraditional customers.” Lenders should thus consider junking the industry’s traditional income-to-payments ratio and stop viewing an applicant’s “lack of credit history” as a “negative factor.” Further, if applicants had bad credit, banks should “consider extenuating circumstances”—even though a study by mortgage insurance companies would soon show, not surprisingly, that borrowers with no credit rating or a bad one were far more likely to default. If applicants didn’t have enough savings for a down payment, the Boston Fed urged, banks should allow loans from nonprofits or government assistance agencies to count toward one. A later study of Freddie Mac mortgages would find that a borrower who made a down payment with third-party funds was four times more likely to default, a reminder that traditional underwriting standards weren’t arbitrary but based on historical lending patterns.

p. The Congressional Hispanic Caucus launched Hogar in 2003, an initiative that pushed for easing lending standards for immigrants, including touting so-called seller-financed mortgages in which a builder provided down-payment aid to buyers via contributions to nonprofit groups. As a result, mortgage lending to Hispanics soared. And today, in districts where Hispanics make up at least 25 percent of the population, foreclosure rates are now nearly 50 percent higher than the national average, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis.

q. Republicans and Democrats, meanwhile, have scrambled to reignite the housing market through ill-conceived tax credits and renewed federal subsidies for mortgages, including the Obama administration’s mortgage bailout plan, which recalls the New Deal’s HOLC. Behind these efforts is a fundamental misconception among politicians that housing drives the American economy and therefore demands subsidy at virtually any cost. Our praiseworthy initial efforts—to eliminate housing discrimination and provide all Americans an equal opportunity to buy a home—were eventually turned on their heads by advocates and politicians, who instead tried to ensure equality of outcomes.



Timeline shows Dems were warned:



SIMPLE REBUTTAL BUBS

EXPLAIN THIS:

Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF



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Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


"Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them.



FACTS on Dubya's great recession





1. Wasn't Bush's recession...it was Democrat policy meltdown.

2. Explanation so simple even a dunce like you should understand it:
a. What is a NINA loan?
No Income No Asset (NINA) or simply Nina Loan is a term used in the United States mortgage industry to describe one of many documentation types which lenders may allow when underwriting a mortgage.
No Income No Asset - Wikipedia
No Income No Asset - Wikipedia


b. "How Democrats Wrecked the Economy and Successfully Blamed Republicans
The bottom line is that Democrats were the primary architects and the driving force behind the irresponsible banking practices that led to the subprime mortgage meltdown, the financial crisis, and the recession that resulted. "
How Democrats Wrecked the Economy and Successfully Blamed Republicans


WHAT DEMOCRATIC POLICY REQUIRED OR ENCOURAGED NINA/NINJA LOANS AGAIN???

Dems huh? Weird PLEASE explain this graph:


Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF




DEMS WERE IN CHARGE THEN?

FACTS on Dubya's great recession
FACTS on Dubya's great recession


Bush’s documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Invesntment bank’s capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments
PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING

But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.




Subprime mortgages amounted to $35 billion (5% of total originations) in 1994, 9% in 1996, $160 billion (13%) in 1999, and $600 billion (20%) in 2006


A study by the Federal Reserve found that the average difference between subprime and prime mortgage
interest rates (the "subprime markup") declined significantly between 2001 and 2007. The combination of declining risk premiums and credit standards is common to boom and bust credit cycles


In addition to considering higher-risk borrowers, lenders had offered increasingly risky loan options and borrowing incentives. In 2005, the median down payment for first-time home buyers was 2%, with 43% of those buyers making no down payment whatsoever


http://www.stat.unc.edu/faculty/cji/fys/2012/Subprime mortgage crisis.pdf




The onset of the recent financial crisis in late 2007 created an intellectual crisis for conservatives, who had been touting for decades the benefits of a hands-off approach to financial market regulation. As the crisis quickly spiraled out of control, it quickly became apparent that the massive credit bubble of the mid-2000s, followed by the inevitable bust that culminated with the financial markets freeze in the fall of 2008, occurred predominantly among those parts of the financial system that were least regulated, or where regulations existed but were largely unenforced.

Predictably, many conservatives sought to blame the bogeymen they always blamed.
Politics Most Blatant: Conservatives Can’t Escape Blame for the Financial Crisis


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


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"WHAT DEMOCRATIC POLICY REQUIRED OR ENCOURAGED NINA/NINJA LOANS AGAIN???"


CRA


Freddie Mac began an “alternative qualifying” program with the Sears Mortgage Corporation that let a borrower qualify for a loan with a monthly payment as high as 50 percent of his income, at a time when most private mortgage companies wouldn’t exceed 33 percent. The program also allowed borrowers with bad credit to get mortgages if they took credit-counseling classes administered by Acorn and other nonprofits. Subsequent research would show that such classes have little impact on default rates.

....in early 2000 the FDIC proposed increasing capital requirements for lenders making “subprime” loans—loans to people with questionable credit, that is—Democratic representative Carolyn Maloney of New York told a congressional hearing that she feared that the step would dry up CRA loans. Her fellow New York Democrat John J. LaFalce urged regulators “not to be premature” in imposing new regulations.

l. In July 1999, HUD proposed new levels for Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s low-income lending; in September, Fannie Mae agreed to begin purchasing loans made to “borrowers with slightly impaired credit”—that is, with credit standards even lower than the government had been pushing for a generation.

...., Fannie Mae said that it expected to back loans to low-income home buyers with a 97 percent loan-to-value ratio—that is, loans in which the buyer puts down just 3 percent—as part of a commitment, made earlier that year to Congress, to purchase $1 trillion in affordable-housing mortgages by the end of the nineties. According to Edward Pinto, who served as the company’s chief credit officer, the program was the result of political pressure on Fannie Mae trumping lending standards.

Obsessive Housing Disorder



Democrats created the meltdown and resisted Bush's attempts to curtail it.


BTW, you dunce, know who created Fannie and Freddie????

Democrats.


CRA AROUND FOR 30 YEARS CAUSED DUBYA'S HOUSING BUBBLE? REALLY? LOL


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush's President's Working Group on Financial Markets March 2008

"The Presidents Working Group's March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007."



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/20081203_analysis.pdf



GSE Critics Ignore Loan Performance
GSE Critics Ignore Loan Performance


CRA AND GSE'S CAUSED THIS???

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Bill 'the rapist' Clinton never had a surplus.


Ah another CONservative who doesn't live in reality. Hint a SURPLUS is in the YEARLY BUDGET. BJ Bill had 4 of those in 8 years, 3 after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut. They came because BJ Bill without a single GOP vote in 1993 increased taxes (mainly on the richest) that brought US back to 19.5%-20% of GDP like Carter had US at before Ronnie tripled US debt :)

Q: During the Clinton administration was the federal budget balanced? Was the federal deficit erased?

A: Yes to both questions, whether you count Social Security or not.
The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton - FactCheck.org


FederalDeficit(1).jpg


Under the rapist, Bill Clinton, the national debt went up 41%.
There was never any surplus.....only brain dead drones believe the Democrat propaganda.


1. Would you like to see the actual national debt figures?

1993

4,351,044

1994

4,643,307

1995

4,920,586

1996

5,181,465

1997

5,369,206

1998

5,478,189

1999

5,605,523

2000

5,628,700



http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/ (table 7.1)

The table 7.1 will also show that he inherited a $4 trillion debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1950 - 1999

That means the debt increased 41% under Clinton.
And no wars or military build up to blame it on!



QED....no surplus.
Here Chic bash this
money to the Clinton Foundation does not go to the Clintons personally...? . If I set up a charitable trust, or any other "charitable organization", the money collected does not go to me but to the foundation/organization...unless I'm a crook...like trump
.
"The Clinton Foundation, founded in 1997 by former US President Bill Clinton [7] is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that describes its mission as to "strengthen the capacity of people in the United States and throughout the world to meet the challenges of global interdependence."[8] The charity watchdog group Charity Navigator, which has an ongoing relationship with the Foundation, gave it its highest possible rating, four out of four stars, after its customary review of the Foundation's financial records and tax statements.[9]"
.
"The Clinton Foundation has been praised as a force for good, and condemned as a "slush fund".[24]The fact-checking organization Politifact says it is mostly true that the Clintons take from the foundation no salary, no other money, and no personal benefit.[25] Supporters of the Clintons say that the controversy obscures valuable work done by the foundation.[26] Opponents say that the foundation made it possible for donors to gain access to Secretary Clinton, and influence her official actions.[24]"
.
"An August 30, 2016 editorial by the New York Times stated that there is no proof that donors to the foundation received special favors from Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State.[44] But, the Times says, there is reason to question where the Clinton Foundation ended and where the State Department began.[44]"
.




What does this have to do with the lie that Clinton had a surplus?


Speak up.

Sorry you are to willfully ignorant to understand what a yearly budget is and how BJ Bill had 4 surpluses :(

FederalDeficit(1).jpg



There never was a surplus.

He added 41% to the national debt.



You're not smart enough to understand the numbers the first time?

OK.....again:


1. Would you like to see the actual national debt figures?

1993

4,351,044

1994

4,643,307

1995

4,920,586

1996

5,181,465

1997

5,369,206

1998

5,478,189

1999

5,605,523

2000

5,628,700



end of FY 2001, which was President Clinton's last budget.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/ (table 7.1)

The table 7.1 will also show that he inherited a $4 trillion debt.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1950 - 1999

That means the debt increased 41% under Clinton.
And no wars or military build up to blame it on!


Get it, you dunce?????

You bought it like it was on sale.
 
LOL..... I thought Trump clown already told you that Obama was born here in US?
Oh that? No! That was just a tactical strategic political maneuver by Trump to get the media off his back during the final stretch of the campaign.

Are you saying that Trump lied again? Oh my goodness.
Are you saying you and Trump cannot get their act together? OMG OMG.
how's that? he said he accepted it. he moved on. the fact still remains, no birth certificate has ever been produced. but we don't need to discuss details.

I didn't brought up the birth certificate------ Steve did.
Yes he did showed his birth certificate even Trump sent to investigate in Hawaii. Are you really this dumb JC?
I never said you did bring it up. WTF. Steve did, yep. and he never said anything on Hawaii. your point exactly. that wasn't a birth certificate. See the person that found that one, died. so, we have to start over.

I know your style JC when loosing you pretend or play dumb or didn't know that then change gear.
 
Sure you do. You lied big time.
You purposely ignored that Obama inherited a lousy economy and the collapse of the housing industry. What do you expect?
From there we are still recovering to this day.
You also ignored that the GOPs purposely tried very hard to bring him down for 8 years. Despite from that constipations ( that's right constipation) from the Republicans he manages to bring this country back.
Lo and behold ------- Americans mistakenly elected Trump ------- Now he is taking all credits of the recovery.



"You purposely ignored that Obama inherited a lousy economy and the collapse of the housing industry. What do you expect? "

1. The mess he inherited was due to Democrat policy.

2. He never improved it....because he is as inept as everyone who voted for melanin over competence.
Raise your paw.

1. So what is that supposed to mean? Obama did not inherit a bad economy? How many billions added to the deficit when bush invaded Iraq that we are still paying today?
2. Nope you are lying.


1. I never lie

2. Obama was an incompetent, unvetted, amateur who was elected because of his skin color.

3. While the mistake is clear and evident, the dumbest still cling to propaganda.
Raise your paw.

1, 2, 3. Yes you lied big time, Nope Americans vote Obama because he was the right choice, was elected twice by land slides. If he ran the third time he could have won and I will vote for him again.



Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser, you imbecile.

When Geraldine Ferraro [Democrat VP candidate] said, "if Obama was a white man he would not be in this position," the Obama campaign accused her of racism. Ferraro said she was devastated by the attacks that were widely carried by the MSM.

This, strangely, happened after Obama said, in the wake of the Rev. Wright debacle, "we need to have a dialogue on race." and after Obama was quoted in the the Chicago Sun Times as saying, "if I had been one of six new white Senators showing up here in Washington I wouldn't have the book contract or be running for President." ---The Intellectual Republican---




In your face, booooyyyyeeeeeee!!!!1

"Obama was quoted in the the Chicago Sun Times as saying, "if I had been one of six new white Senators showing up here in Washington I wouldn't have the book contract or be running for President.""


LIAR, GIVE A REAL SOURCE!!!
 
Don't you want to apologize for doubting me when I said that Bill 'the rapist' Clinton added 41% to the national debt?

Remember how you ran from that post?

Apologize. That means Clinton added less to the national debt than anybody since Eisenhower. Clinton inherited deficits from "read my lips" Bush, and turned them into surpluses. So compare Clinton's 41% to Regans 300%, Bush's 200%

Yeah, i'm proud of Clinton's 41%.



Don't try to slither away: you claimed I was wrong about the 41% he added.

I'm never wrong.
 
Time to put you in your place???


Sure thing.


a. Congress passed a bill in 1975 requiring banks to provide the government with information on their lending activities in poor urban areas. Two years later, it passed the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which gave regulators the power to deny banks the right to expand if they didn’t lend sufficiently in those neighborhoods. In 1979 the FDIC used the CRA to block a move by the Greater NY Savings Bank for not enough lending.

b. In 1986, when the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn) threatened to oppose an acquisition by a southern bank, Louisiana Bancshares, until it agreed to new “flexible credit and underwriting standards” for minority borrowers—for example, counting public assistance and food stamps as income.

c. In 1987, Acorn led a coalition of advocacy groups calling for industry-wide changes in lending standards. Among the demanded reforms were the easing of minimum down-payment requirements and of the requirement that borrowers have enough cash at a closing to cover two to three months of mortgage payments (research had shown that lack of money in hand was a big reason some mortgages failed quickly).

d. ACORN then attacked Fannie Mae, the giant quasi-government agency that bought loans from banks in order to allow them to make new loans. Its underwriters were “strictly by-the-book interpreters” of lending standards and turned down purchases of unconventional loans, charged Acorn. The pressure eventually paid off. In 1992, Congress passed legislation requiring Fannie Mae and the similar Freddie Mac to devote 30 percent of their loan purchases to mortgages for low- and moderate-income borrowers.

e. Clinton Administration housing secretary, Henry Cisneros, declared that he would expand homeownership among lower- and lower-middle-income renters. His strategy: pushing for no-down-payment loans; expanding the size of mortgages that the government would insure against losses; and using the CRA and other lending laws to direct more private money into low-income programs.

f. Shortly after Cisneros announced his plan, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac agreed to begin buying loans under new, looser guidelines. Freddie Mac, for instance, started approving low-income buyers with bad credit histories or none at all, so long as they were current on rent and utilities payments. Freddie Mac also said that it would begin counting income from seasonal jobs and public assistance toward its income minimum, despite the FHA disaster of the sixties.

g. Freddie Mac began an “alternative qualifying” program with the Sears Mortgage Corporation that let a borrower qualify for a loan with a monthly payment as high as 50 percent of his income, at a time when most private mortgage companies wouldn’t exceed 33 percent. The program also allowed borrowers with bad credit to get mortgages if they took credit-counseling classes administered by Acorn and other nonprofits. Subsequent research would show that such classes have little impact on default rates.

h. Pressuring nonbank lenders to make more loans to poor minorities didn’t stop with Sears. If it didn’t happen, Clinton officials warned, they’d seek to extend CRA regulations to all mortgage makers. In Congress, Representative Maxine Waters called financial firms not covered by the CRA “among the most egregious redliners.”

i. Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA) shocked the financial world by signing a 1994 agreement with the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), pledging to increase lending to minorities and join in new efforts to rewrite lending standards. The first MBA member to sign up: Countrywide Financial, the mortgage firm that would be at the core of the subprime meltdown.

j. A 1998 sales pitch by a Bear Stearns managing director advised banks to begin packaging their loans to low-income borrowers into securities that the firm could sell. Forget traditional underwriting standards when considering these loans, the director advised. For a low-income borrower, he continued in all-too-familiar terms, owning a home was “a near-sacred obligation. A family will do almost anything to meet that monthly mortgage payment.” Bunk, says Stan Liebowitz, a professor of economics at the University of Texas: “The claim that lower-income homeowners are somehow different in their devotion to their home is a purely emotional claim with no evidence to support it.”

k. Any concern was quickly dismissed. When in early 2000 the FDIC proposed increasing capital requirements for lenders making “subprime” loans—loans to people with questionable credit, that is—Democratic representative Carolyn Maloney of New York told a congressional hearing that she feared that the step would dry up CRA loans. Her fellow New York Democrat John J. LaFalce urged regulators “not to be premature” in imposing new regulations.

l. In July 1999, HUD proposed new levels for Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s low-income lending; in September, Fannie Mae agreed to begin purchasing loans made to “borrowers with slightly impaired credit”—that is, with credit standards even lower than the government had been pushing for a generation.

m. In 2004 Congress pressed new affordable-housing goals on the two mortgage giants, which through 2007 purchased some $1 trillion in loans to lower- and moderate-income buyers. The buying spree helped spark a massive increase in securitization of mortgages to people with dubious credit.

n. In October 1994, Fannie Mae head James Johnson had reminded a banking convention that mortgages with small down payments had a much higher risk of defaulting. (A Duff & Phelps study found that they were nearly three times more likely to default than conventional mortgages.) Yet the very next month, Fannie Mae said that it expected to back loans to low-income home buyers with a 97 percent loan-to-value ratio—that is, loans in which the buyer puts down just 3 percent—as part of a commitment, made earlier that year to Congress, to purchase $1 trillion in affordable-housing mortgages by the end of the nineties. According to Edward Pinto, who served as the company’s chief credit officer, the program was the result of political pressure on Fannie Mae trumping lending standards.

o. In 1992, the Boston Fed produced an extraordinary 29-page document that codified the new lending wisdom. Conventional mortgage criteria, the report argued, might be “unintentionally biased” because they didn’t take into account “the economic culture of urban, lower-income and nontraditional customers.” Lenders should thus consider junking the industry’s traditional income-to-payments ratio and stop viewing an applicant’s “lack of credit history” as a “negative factor.” Further, if applicants had bad credit, banks should “consider extenuating circumstances”—even though a study by mortgage insurance companies would soon show, not surprisingly, that borrowers with no credit rating or a bad one were far more likely to default. If applicants didn’t have enough savings for a down payment, the Boston Fed urged, banks should allow loans from nonprofits or government assistance agencies to count toward one. A later study of Freddie Mac mortgages would find that a borrower who made a down payment with third-party funds was four times more likely to default, a reminder that traditional underwriting standards weren’t arbitrary but based on historical lending patterns.

p. The Congressional Hispanic Caucus launched Hogar in 2003, an initiative that pushed for easing lending standards for immigrants, including touting so-called seller-financed mortgages in which a builder provided down-payment aid to buyers via contributions to nonprofit groups. As a result, mortgage lending to Hispanics soared. And today, in districts where Hispanics make up at least 25 percent of the population, foreclosure rates are now nearly 50 percent higher than the national average, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis.

q. Republicans and Democrats, meanwhile, have scrambled to reignite the housing market through ill-conceived tax credits and renewed federal subsidies for mortgages, including the Obama administration’s mortgage bailout plan, which recalls the New Deal’s HOLC. Behind these efforts is a fundamental misconception among politicians that housing drives the American economy and therefore demands subsidy at virtually any cost. Our praiseworthy initial efforts—to eliminate housing discrimination and provide all Americans an equal opportunity to buy a home—were eventually turned on their heads by advocates and politicians, who instead tried to ensure equality of outcomes.



Timeline shows Dems were warned:



SIMPLE REBUTTAL BUBS

EXPLAIN THIS:

Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF



drecon_0912.png



case-shiller-history-of-home-values.jpg




Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


"Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them.



FACTS on Dubya's great recession





1. Wasn't Bush's recession...it was Democrat policy meltdown.

2. Explanation so simple even a dunce like you should understand it:
a. What is a NINA loan?
No Income No Asset (NINA) or simply Nina Loan is a term used in the United States mortgage industry to describe one of many documentation types which lenders may allow when underwriting a mortgage.
No Income No Asset - Wikipedia
No Income No Asset - Wikipedia


b. "How Democrats Wrecked the Economy and Successfully Blamed Republicans
The bottom line is that Democrats were the primary architects and the driving force behind the irresponsible banking practices that led to the subprime mortgage meltdown, the financial crisis, and the recession that resulted. "
How Democrats Wrecked the Economy and Successfully Blamed Republicans


WHAT DEMOCRATIC POLICY REQUIRED OR ENCOURAGED NINA/NINJA LOANS AGAIN???

Dems huh? Weird PLEASE explain this graph:


Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF




DEMS WERE IN CHARGE THEN?

FACTS on Dubya's great recession
FACTS on Dubya's great recession


Bush’s documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Invesntment bank’s capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments
PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING

But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.




Subprime mortgages amounted to $35 billion (5% of total originations) in 1994, 9% in 1996, $160 billion (13%) in 1999, and $600 billion (20%) in 2006


A study by the Federal Reserve found that the average difference between subprime and prime mortgage
interest rates (the "subprime markup") declined significantly between 2001 and 2007. The combination of declining risk premiums and credit standards is common to boom and bust credit cycles


In addition to considering higher-risk borrowers, lenders had offered increasingly risky loan options and borrowing incentives. In 2005, the median down payment for first-time home buyers was 2%, with 43% of those buyers making no down payment whatsoever


http://www.stat.unc.edu/faculty/cji/fys/2012/Subprime mortgage crisis.pdf




The onset of the recent financial crisis in late 2007 created an intellectual crisis for conservatives, who had been touting for decades the benefits of a hands-off approach to financial market regulation. As the crisis quickly spiraled out of control, it quickly became apparent that the massive credit bubble of the mid-2000s, followed by the inevitable bust that culminated with the financial markets freeze in the fall of 2008, occurred predominantly among those parts of the financial system that were least regulated, or where regulations existed but were largely unenforced.

Predictably, many conservatives sought to blame the bogeymen they always blamed.
Politics Most Blatant: Conservatives Can’t Escape Blame for the Financial Crisis


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


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"WHAT DEMOCRATIC POLICY REQUIRED OR ENCOURAGED NINA/NINJA LOANS AGAIN???"


CRA


Freddie Mac began an “alternative qualifying” program with the Sears Mortgage Corporation that let a borrower qualify for a loan with a monthly payment as high as 50 percent of his income, at a time when most private mortgage companies wouldn’t exceed 33 percent. The program also allowed borrowers with bad credit to get mortgages if they took credit-counseling classes administered by Acorn and other nonprofits. Subsequent research would show that such classes have little impact on default rates.

....in early 2000 the FDIC proposed increasing capital requirements for lenders making “subprime” loans—loans to people with questionable credit, that is—Democratic representative Carolyn Maloney of New York told a congressional hearing that she feared that the step would dry up CRA loans. Her fellow New York Democrat John J. LaFalce urged regulators “not to be premature” in imposing new regulations.

l. In July 1999, HUD proposed new levels for Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s low-income lending; in September, Fannie Mae agreed to begin purchasing loans made to “borrowers with slightly impaired credit”—that is, with credit standards even lower than the government had been pushing for a generation.

...., Fannie Mae said that it expected to back loans to low-income home buyers with a 97 percent loan-to-value ratio—that is, loans in which the buyer puts down just 3 percent—as part of a commitment, made earlier that year to Congress, to purchase $1 trillion in affordable-housing mortgages by the end of the nineties. According to Edward Pinto, who served as the company’s chief credit officer, the program was the result of political pressure on Fannie Mae trumping lending standards.

Obsessive Housing Disorder



Democrats created the meltdown and resisted Bush's attempts to curtail it.


BTW, you dunce, know who created Fannie and Freddie????

Democrats.


CRA AROUND FOR 30 YEARS CAUSED DUBYA'S HOUSING BUBBLE? REALLY? LOL


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush's President's Working Group on Financial Markets March 2008

"The Presidents Working Group's March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007."



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/20081203_analysis.pdf



GSE Critics Ignore Loan Performance
GSE Critics Ignore Loan Performance


CRA AND GSE'S CAUSED THIS???

drecon_0912.png



Bush%2Bhappens.jpg



Yeah.....really.

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.

He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA

Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.

Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown


That's the CliffNotes version.

I don't believe you can handle the details.
 
Are you saying that Trump lied again? Oh my goodness.
Are you saying you and Trump cannot get their act together? OMG OMG.
how's that? he said he accepted it. he moved on. the fact still remains, no birth certificate has ever been produced. but we don't need to discuss details.


Yes he did showed his birth certificate
And it was proven to be a 100% forgery after a lengthy investigation by an authoritative law enforcement agency.



LMAOROG

birthers-birthers-politics-1361105277.jpg



The birther thing was created by Bill's wife's campaign....

Didn't you know that?

Says the one who "doesn't lie" lol

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy."
tom-false.png


Trump's False claim Clinton started Obama birther talk
 
"You purposely ignored that Obama inherited a lousy economy and the collapse of the housing industry. What do you expect? "

1. The mess he inherited was due to Democrat policy.

2. He never improved it....because he is as inept as everyone who voted for melanin over competence.
Raise your paw.

1. So what is that supposed to mean? Obama did not inherit a bad economy? How many billions added to the deficit when bush invaded Iraq that we are still paying today?
2. Nope you are lying.


1. I never lie

2. Obama was an incompetent, unvetted, amateur who was elected because of his skin color.

3. While the mistake is clear and evident, the dumbest still cling to propaganda.
Raise your paw.

1, 2, 3. Yes you lied big time, Nope Americans vote Obama because he was the right choice, was elected twice by land slides. If he ran the third time he could have won and I will vote for him again.



Watch me smash a custard pie in your kisser, you imbecile.

When Geraldine Ferraro [Democrat VP candidate] said, "if Obama was a white man he would not be in this position," the Obama campaign accused her of racism. Ferraro said she was devastated by the attacks that were widely carried by the MSM.

This, strangely, happened after Obama said, in the wake of the Rev. Wright debacle, "we need to have a dialogue on race." and after Obama was quoted in the the Chicago Sun Times as saying, "if I had been one of six new white Senators showing up here in Washington I wouldn't have the book contract or be running for President." ---The Intellectual Republican---




In your face, booooyyyyeeeeeee!!!!1

"Obama was quoted in the the Chicago Sun Times as saying, "if I had been one of six new white Senators showing up here in Washington I wouldn't have the book contract or be running for President.""


LIAR, GIVE A REAL SOURCE!!!


Chicago Sun-Times
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Sun Times" redirects here. For the Canadian newspaper, see Owen Sound Sun Times.
Chicago Sun-Times


The November 19, 2008 front page of the Chicago Sun-Times
Type Daily newspaper
Format Tabloid
Owner(s) Sun-Times Media Group (Wrapports LLC)
Publisher Jim Kirk
Editor Jim Kirk
Founded 1948; 69 years ago
Headquarters 350 N. Orleans
Chicago, IL 60654
United States
Country United States
Circulation 470,548 daily
268,413 Saturday
406,094 Sunday[1]
ISSN 1553-8478
Website chicago.suntimes.com

Chicago Sun-Times logo in 2007

Former Logo
The Chicago Sun-Times is a daily newspaper published in Chicago, Illinois. It is the flagship paper of the Sun-Times Media Group.
Chicago Sun-Times - Wikipedia



It was Obama's supporter from the start.



Where's your apology?????
 
how's that? he said he accepted it. he moved on. the fact still remains, no birth certificate has ever been produced. but we don't need to discuss details.


Yes he did showed his birth certificate
And it was proven to be a 100% forgery after a lengthy investigation by an authoritative law enforcement agency.



LMAOROG

birthers-birthers-politics-1361105277.jpg



The birther thing was created by Bill's wife's campaign....

Didn't you know that?

Says the one who "doesn't lie" lol

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy."
tom-false.png


Trump's False claim Clinton started Obama birther talk

Trumpovitch not pleased at all


The Trump Presidency Falls Apart



Trumpovitch didn't seem very pleased at today's presser. Something on his mind and it isn't making America great again.
 
SIMPLE REBUTTAL BUBS

EXPLAIN THIS:

Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF



drecon_0912.png



case-shiller-history-of-home-values.jpg




Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


"Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them.



FACTS on Dubya's great recession




1. Wasn't Bush's recession...it was Democrat policy meltdown.

2. Explanation so simple even a dunce like you should understand it:
a. What is a NINA loan?
No Income No Asset (NINA) or simply Nina Loan is a term used in the United States mortgage industry to describe one of many documentation types which lenders may allow when underwriting a mortgage.
No Income No Asset - Wikipedia
No Income No Asset - Wikipedia


b. "How Democrats Wrecked the Economy and Successfully Blamed Republicans
The bottom line is that Democrats were the primary architects and the driving force behind the irresponsible banking practices that led to the subprime mortgage meltdown, the financial crisis, and the recession that resulted. "
How Democrats Wrecked the Economy and Successfully Blamed Republicans

WHAT DEMOCRATIC POLICY REQUIRED OR ENCOURAGED NINA/NINJA LOANS AGAIN???

Dems huh? Weird PLEASE explain this graph:


Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF




DEMS WERE IN CHARGE THEN?

FACTS on Dubya's great recession
FACTS on Dubya's great recession


Bush’s documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Invesntment bank’s capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments
PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING

But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.




Subprime mortgages amounted to $35 billion (5% of total originations) in 1994, 9% in 1996, $160 billion (13%) in 1999, and $600 billion (20%) in 2006


A study by the Federal Reserve found that the average difference between subprime and prime mortgage
interest rates (the "subprime markup") declined significantly between 2001 and 2007. The combination of declining risk premiums and credit standards is common to boom and bust credit cycles


In addition to considering higher-risk borrowers, lenders had offered increasingly risky loan options and borrowing incentives. In 2005, the median down payment for first-time home buyers was 2%, with 43% of those buyers making no down payment whatsoever


http://www.stat.unc.edu/faculty/cji/fys/2012/Subprime mortgage crisis.pdf




The onset of the recent financial crisis in late 2007 created an intellectual crisis for conservatives, who had been touting for decades the benefits of a hands-off approach to financial market regulation. As the crisis quickly spiraled out of control, it quickly became apparent that the massive credit bubble of the mid-2000s, followed by the inevitable bust that culminated with the financial markets freeze in the fall of 2008, occurred predominantly among those parts of the financial system that were least regulated, or where regulations existed but were largely unenforced.

Predictably, many conservatives sought to blame the bogeymen they always blamed.
Politics Most Blatant: Conservatives Can’t Escape Blame for the Financial Crisis


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


hqdefault.jpg



"WHAT DEMOCRATIC POLICY REQUIRED OR ENCOURAGED NINA/NINJA LOANS AGAIN???"


CRA


Freddie Mac began an “alternative qualifying” program with the Sears Mortgage Corporation that let a borrower qualify for a loan with a monthly payment as high as 50 percent of his income, at a time when most private mortgage companies wouldn’t exceed 33 percent. The program also allowed borrowers with bad credit to get mortgages if they took credit-counseling classes administered by Acorn and other nonprofits. Subsequent research would show that such classes have little impact on default rates.

....in early 2000 the FDIC proposed increasing capital requirements for lenders making “subprime” loans—loans to people with questionable credit, that is—Democratic representative Carolyn Maloney of New York told a congressional hearing that she feared that the step would dry up CRA loans. Her fellow New York Democrat John J. LaFalce urged regulators “not to be premature” in imposing new regulations.

l. In July 1999, HUD proposed new levels for Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s low-income lending; in September, Fannie Mae agreed to begin purchasing loans made to “borrowers with slightly impaired credit”—that is, with credit standards even lower than the government had been pushing for a generation.

...., Fannie Mae said that it expected to back loans to low-income home buyers with a 97 percent loan-to-value ratio—that is, loans in which the buyer puts down just 3 percent—as part of a commitment, made earlier that year to Congress, to purchase $1 trillion in affordable-housing mortgages by the end of the nineties. According to Edward Pinto, who served as the company’s chief credit officer, the program was the result of political pressure on Fannie Mae trumping lending standards.

Obsessive Housing Disorder



Democrats created the meltdown and resisted Bush's attempts to curtail it.


BTW, you dunce, know who created Fannie and Freddie????

Democrats.

CRA AROUND FOR 30 YEARS CAUSED DUBYA'S HOUSING BUBBLE? REALLY? LOL


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush's President's Working Group on Financial Markets March 2008

"The Presidents Working Group's March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007."



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/20081203_analysis.pdf



GSE Critics Ignore Loan Performance
GSE Critics Ignore Loan Performance


CRA AND GSE'S CAUSED THIS???

drecon_0912.png



Bush%2Bhappens.jpg


Yeah.....really.

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.

He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA

Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.

Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown


That's the CliffNotes version.

I don't believe you can handle the details.

Gawd you are an ignorant liar :(



GSE'S AROUND FOR NEARLY 70 YEARS AND CRA AROUND FOR 30 WITH DEMS IN THE HOUSE HAVING ZERO POWER UNDER DUBYA WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS:


Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF



REALLY?

Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse



2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."


LMAOROG
 
how's that? he said he accepted it. he moved on. the fact still remains, no birth certificate has ever been produced. but we don't need to discuss details.


Yes he did showed his birth certificate
And it was proven to be a 100% forgery after a lengthy investigation by an authoritative law enforcement agency.



LMAOROG

birthers-birthers-politics-1361105277.jpg



The birther thing was created by Bill's wife's campaign....

Didn't you know that?

Says the one who "doesn't lie" lol

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy."
tom-false.png


Trump's False claim Clinton started Obama birther talk


"Hillary Clinton Campaign Manager Admits 2008 Birther Link
Patti Solis Doyle, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager in 2008 until the Iowa caucuses, admitted on Friday that a Clinton campaign staffer had, in fact, circulated the Birther conspiracy theory that Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and therefore potentially ineligible to serve in the presidency."
Hillary Clinton Campaign Manager Admits 2008 Birther Link



Busted!!!!!
 
NYTimes Trump asked Comey to shut down Flynn investigation

Mod Edit of the Title for merged threads.


According to the anonymous source, Trump supposedly said he hoped he'd let it go.

Meanwhile, Comey testified under oath 2 weeks ago that no one pressured him to stop any investigation.

So, do we believe a liberal source quoting some anonymous person (a real habit with them) or do we look at Comey's testimony under oath?

When Bill Clinton held his secret meeting with Lynch, are we supposed to believe it was just to talk about grandchildren? Does anyone believe that the most Bill said about the email investigation was that he hoped Lynch would let it go?

That remains a much bigger story so until the lib media wants to do some investigative reporting on that, they can fuck off and take their anonymous sources with them.
 

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