Breaking News. Plane crash in DC. Collided with either helicopter or drone over Potomac.

[Mac-7]

That doesn’t explain why you think you have to lower standards to hire minorities.

Why do you think that?

Because you dont think minorities can make it without DEI

 

[Mac-7]

I have not blamed DEI

My position is lets wait and see

 

[Marener]

Because you dont think minorities can make it without DEI

I asked what you think, but you don’t want to say.

It seems like you think that minorities are inferior to white people. Is that what you’re afraid to admit?

 

[ColonelAngus]

FAA pushing for more blacks and women in aviation is objectively stupid.

Biden’s choice to run the FAA did not know shit about aviation.

Fact Check: Yes, Obama and Biden Had FAA Hire People with Intellectual, Psychiatric, Severe Physical Disabilities​

Fact Check: Yes, Obama and Biden Had FAA Hire People with Intellectual, Psychiatric, Severe Physical Disabilities

Meaningless DEI initiatives are infuriating enough on their own when they prioritize identity over merit in non-critical positions.

www.westernjournal.com

 

[braalian]

Not necessarily

The facts matter

And none of the facts thus far point to DEI being a factor in any way, shape or form

It was just a cheap political move to rile up the rubes by mentioning minorities

 

[Mac-7]

I asked what you think, but you don’t want to say.

It seems like you think that minorities are inferior to white people. Is that what you’re afraid to admit?

If either of us thinks minorities are inferior its you

Because you want special treatment for minorities and I dont

 

[Mac-7]

And none of the facts thus far point to DEI being a factor in any way, shape or form

It was just a cheap political move to rile up the rubes by mentioning minorities

Well, ok

I never said it was

Lets wait and see

 

[Marener]

If either of us thinks minorities are inferior its you

Because you want special treatment for minorities

I’m not the one assuming that you have to lower standards to hire minorities.

You made that assumption. The fact that you won’t explain why you believe that is telling. You know you can’t say what you believe.

Just say it. You’ll feel better.

 

[braalian]

Well, ok

I never said it was

Lets wait and see

So if there’s zero evidence pointing to it being DEI related, why is it even being brought up?

Everytime a tragic on-the-job accident occurs you can’t just baselessly speculate “maybe it’s a DEI hire”

You don’t get to do that.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

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Listen to the terrible 'mistake' that caused DC plane crash, according to air traffic controller​

Listen to the terrible 'mistake' that 'caused DC plane crash'

An air traffic control veteran with 23 years' experience said the audio that emerged from the crash shows the operator's tragic mistake.

www.dailymail.co.uk

31 Jan 2025 ~~ By Rachel Bowman

An air traffic control veteran with 23 years of experience has revealed the mistake operators made in the moments leading up to the deadly collision in Washington, DC.

The American Airlines jet with 64 people onboard crashed with a US Army helicopter carrying three soldiers over the icy waters of the Potomac River Wednesday night, killing everyone.
The Black Hawk helicopter apparently flew in the jet's path as it landed at Ronald Reagan National Airport.
Investigators working through the wreckage in the Potomac uncovered two black box flight recorders on Thursday night as they attempt to determine what went wrong.
An experienced air traffic controller told DailyMail.com that the air traffic control (ATC) audio that emerged from the crash showed the operator's instructions to the helicopter were 'very ambiguous.'
In the nearly minute-and-a-half recording, ATC operators can be heard asking the helicopter if the commercial flight is in sight.
Through muffled audio, more commands and confirmations are made between ATC operators.
One air traffic controller said to the helicopter pilot: 'PAT 2-5, do you have the CRJ in sight?'
Seconds later, the controller spoke again, requesting: 'Pat 2-5 pass behind the CRJ.'
The veteran air traffic controller, who has worked in six different airports throughout the country, said that if those commands were the Black Hawk's first reference to the plane, the instructions were unclear.
'It would have been very ambiguous as far as, "Okay, what plane? Well, where am I looking?"' he said.
'Whenever you give directions to people, we use the 12 points on a clock. Let's say 12 o'clock is north. If I say, "Look to your nine o'clock" that would mean look to your left or to the west.
'So, if I had a helicopter that was coming into my airspace and I wanted him to see an airplane, I would say, "PAT 2-5 traffic, nine o'clock, three miles regional jet inbound to the airport."
He noted that air traffic controllers have a massive responsibility to give accurate and detailed information to pilots.
~Snip~
TC staff numbers at Reagan National Airport on Wednesday were 'not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic', and controllers were more overworked than usual, according to an internal preliminary Federal Aviation Administration safety report seen by the New York Times.
Reagan National has been understaffed for many years, with just 19 fully certified controllers as of September 2023 - well below the target of 30 - according to the most recent Air Traffic Controller Workforce Plan submitted to Congress.
Controllers frequently work 10 hours daily, six days a week, to fill the void.
The preliminary crash report detailed that the lack of staff meant the controller monitoring and directing helicopters near DCA was also instructing planes to land and depart on the runways.
Usually two controllers would handle these roles, as staff use two different radio frequencies to talk to planes and helicopter pilots.
While the controller is talking to them, the pilots of each aircraft may not be able hear each other.


Commentary:
So it was the error of the ATC at the control Tower not Pilot error that cause the crash.
I would say that, expecting someone to regularly work ten hour shifts in such an intense job requiring no margin for a single error or lapse in concentration, it is miraculous that these types of disasters aren't commonplace.
Additionally, the hiring of DEI over qualified people is wrong,
Will this investigation expose the number of DEI hires that jeopardize our air traffic and will the new director increase the number of openings and reduce the number hours employees are required to presently work?

No question that DEI hiring practices are naturally suspect in a situation like this but I still think that helicopter was flying too high for that location and someone on board should have known. Controllers should have pointed this out, too.

 

[odanny]

 

[Mac-7]

I’m not the one assuming that you have to lower standards to hire minorities.

Thats reality

If minorities were equally represented they would be equally represented

We have examples of lower standards for minorities

The firefighters in New Haven Conn for instance

Do I have to remind you of that?

 

[Mac-7]

So if there’s zero evidence pointing to it being DEI related, why is it even being brought up?

Everytime a tragic on-the-job accident occurs you can’t just baselessly speculate “maybe it’s a DEI hire”

You don’t get to do that.

I didnt bring it up

 

[braalian]

I didnt bring it up

But you’ve defended the comment

 

[Mac-7]

But you’ve defended the comment

No

My comment was that trump should not have said anything

 

[Marener]

Thats reality

Gotcha. You think minorities are inferior to white people.

Thanks. Have a good day.

 

[Mac-7]

Gotcha. You think minorities are inferior to white people.

Thanks. Have a good day.

your words not mine

 

[Marener]

your words not mine

If minorities aren’t inferior, then you wouldn’t have to lower standards.

But you think you do, claiming “that’s reality”.

Maybe you don’t understand what your words mean, or just don’t want to admit it.

Have you ever considered that powers that be may want to hire white people more than minorities? Maybe because they assume minorities are inferior, as many clearly believe.

 

[OldFlame]

When we say conspiracy, set up, smells like-looks like, etc... We just know it right away.

As Trump says it was a "clear" night.

To what end, for what purpose?

 

[OldFlame]

He shouldn’t be speculating about the cause of the accident in any way, shape or form

Especially in a fucking press conference where his only role as president is to express condolences, assure that it’s being investigated and then turn the mic over to the actual experts with actual expertise

That’s what presidents do in these situations

He’s treating it like it’s a fucking social media post

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