Breaking News. Plane crash in DC. Collided with either helicopter or drone over Potomac.

[Bell Huey]

It was a fairly experienced crew doing an annual night evaluation. They did have night-vision googles,” Hegseth said.

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Still makes no sense to me why the helicopter was anywhere near that airport training.

The training was over. THey were returning to their base. They were flying on the required Helicopter Route.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

The best president since George Washinton.

George who?

 

[TemplarKormac]

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[Zafira Cherry]

The training was over. THey were returning to their base. They were flying on the required Helicopter Route.

time to admit who is "in charge" and "owns it"

 

[Fang]

The training was over. THey were returning to their base. They were flying on the required Helicopter Route.

Interesting. The required route takes them directly through commercial airspace used for landing at Reagan. If neither plane was off course. then this was a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

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The FAA's move towards diversity-oriented hiring practices for air traffic controllers raises concerns over industry impact, although it doesn't appear to compromise safety.

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What's your point?

 

[Bell Huey]

time to admit who is "in charge" and "owns it"

They were flying Helicopter Route 4 and at that point of the route they had Anacostia to the east and Reagan National to the west. It is reported that the collision occurred at 400 feet. This is what is being reported. Now, at that point they should have been no higher than 200 feet. and they should have stayed closer to the east bank of the river. Also, the fight path reported shows that they start to go west (right). Why?

I was assigned to that airfield a long time ago with duty at Ft. Meade. The helicopter routes are basically the same. I was not a pilot but a crewmember and did some navigating. I flew those routes almost on a daily basis.

Here is link. The map you are looking for is the smaller one on the bottom:

https://aeronav.faa.gov/visual/09-05-2024/PDFs/Balt-Wash_Heli.pdf

 

[westwall]

The training was over. THey were returning to their base. They were flying on the required Helicopter Route.

But 300 feet higher than their hard deck.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

They were flying Helicopter Route 4 and at that point of the route they had Anacostia to the east and Reagan National to the west. It is reported that the collision occurred at 400 feet. This is what is being reported. Now, at that point they should have been no higher than 200 feet. and they should have stayed closer to the east bank of the river. Also, the fight path reported shows that they start to go west (right). Why?

I was assigned to that airfield a long time ago with duty at Ft. Meade. The helicopter routes are basically the same. I was not a pilot but a crewmember and did some navigating. I flew those routes almost on a daily basis.

Here is link. The map you are looking for is the smaller one on the bottom:

https://aeronav.faa.gov/visual/09-05-2024/PDFs/Balt-Wash_Heli.pdf

good story. Who is in charge right now? Biden or Trump.

 

[Bell Huey]

But 300 feet higher than their hard deck.

Well two. But hen I was a crewmember there we generally flew around 100 ft.

 

[westwall]

Actually it is 60.9% of the population that identify as "white".

In fact 76.5% of the workforce are white by by your own reasoning therefore, 60.9% would be white if hiring were fair.

Why is 76.5% of the workforce white when only 60.9% of the population are white? Seems whites are over represented by about 15% doesn't it? (and this with DEI policies).

What if in a few years, we found that 98% of the workforce were white, what would you say about that? would you be concerned?

There is no "fair" in hiring. There is "are they competent or not." The sad reality is most of the non white population isn't competent for anything but menial labor.

 

[Bell Huey]

good story. Who is in charge right now? Biden or Trump.

I spent a career in ,military aviation and I don't ever recall blaming a sitting president for an aircraft. Even one where I lost friends.

That is not a story. I provided you facts and reports plus the actual acft routes.

 

[TemplarKormac]

What's your point?

Apparently lost on you.

Cause: FAA hiring practices led to qualified air traffic controller applicants being rejected for underqualified minority applicants.

Effect: A plane and helicopter collision over the Potomac which killed all the passengers and crew.

 

[pknopp]

The training was over. THey were returning to their base. They were flying on the required Helicopter Route.

Seems pretty stupid for a route if so.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Apparently lost on you.

Cause: FAA hiring practices led to qualified air traffic controller applicants being rejected for underqualified minority applicants.

Effect: A plane and helicopter collision over the Potomac which killed all the passengers and crew.

Just as I thought, you're an idiot.

 

[TemplarKormac]

good story. Who is in charge right now? Biden or Trump.

You're like someone who walks up to a firefighter who just put out a fire, sees the smoke, and blames him for the fire.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Just as I thought, you're an idiot.

Just as I thought, you're not disputing my claim.

Carry on.

 

[Bell Huey]

Seems pretty stupid for a route if so.

Those routes have been around for decades I don't think so. If a helicopter is at the proper height and close to the easter bank of the river there is no problem.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

I spent a career in ,military aviation and I don't ever recall blaming a sitting president for an aircraft. Even one where I lost friends.

That is not a story. I provided you facts and reports plus the actual acft routes.

Trump owns this show.

 

[pknopp]

Those routes have been around for decades I don't think so. If a helicopter is at the proper height and close to the easter bank of the river there is no problem.

Seems there was.