Breaking News: 'Hamas accepts Israel's right to exist'

[Kalam]

Dummy, the majority of Americans are Zionists.

The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.

Doesn't matter, Habib.

I'm not your beloved, jewbag.

The majority of Americans are in favor of Israel over the camel herders who gouge us with high oil prices and who sided with Hitler, Russia and who are terrorists.

As opposed to Israel, whose ethnic supremacism is a watered-down version of Hitler's ideology with a star of David (AS) in place of the swastika. Israel's military exploits in 1948 were carried out with munitions from Soviet Czechoslovakia, and I invite you to show me any widely-accepted definition of "terrorism" that cannot be used to describe the Zionists' abhorrent treatment of the people of Palestine.

 

[Kalam]

The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.

The majority of Americans can't point to anything on a map.

And?

I have reason to believe that there's quite a bit of overlap between those Americans who don't know China from Chile and those who are sympathetic to Zionism.

 

[CMike]

What Hamas says in english is irrelevant, what should concern us is what they say in arabic.

 

[CMike]

Here is what Hamas says in arabic, it's all a ploy according to them for the eventual destruction of Israel

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEXQHqXmCRg]YouTube - Hamas and the stages of the destruction of Israel[/ame]

 

[CMike]

Not another MEMRI. Don't you have a credible source?

Besides, this is off topic of my post.

You cannot refute the translation, dummy.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ&feature=fvw]YouTube - Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."[/ame]

The BS machine
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7rH4egQBU]YouTube - Rumour of the century (wiping Israel off the map)[/ame]

Nice try let's see what Achhead said.

http://www.jcpa.org/text/ahmadinejad2-words.pdf

TRANSLATION
و امام عزيز ما فرمودند كه اين
رژيم اشغالگر قدس بايد از صفحه
روزگار محو شود. اين جمله
بسيار حكيمانه است.
Va Imam-e aziz-e ma
farmudand ke in rezhim-e
eshghalgar-e Qods bayad
az safhe-ye ruzegar mahv
shaved. In jomle besyar
hakimane ast.
Our dear Imam [Khomeini]
ordered that this Jerusalem occupying
regime [Israel]
must be erased from the
page of time. This was a very
wise statement.

TRANSLATION
به زودي اين لكه ننگ را از دامان
دنياي اسلام پاك خواهد كرد و
اين شدني است.
Be-zudi in lake-ye nang ra az
damane donya-ye Islam pak
khahad kard, va in shodani’st.
Soon this stain of
disgrace will be cleaned
from the garment of
the world of Islam, and
this is attainable.

TRANSLATION
در منطقه خاورميانه نيز جرثومه
سياه و كثيفي به نام رژيم
صهيونيستي درست كرده اند تا
به جان مردم منطقه بيندازند و به
بهانه آن سياست هاي خود را در
خاورميانه پيش ببرند.
Dar mantaqe-ye Khavar-e
Miyane niz jarsum-e siyah
va kasifi be-nam-e rezhim-e
sahyonisti dorost kardeand
ta be-jan-e mardom-e
mantaqe biandazand va
be-behane-ye an siyasathaye
khod-ra dar Khavar-e
Miyane pish bebarand.
In the Middle East, they [the
global powers] have created
a black and filthy microbe
called the Zionist regime, so
they could use it to attack
the peoples of the region,
and by using this excuse,
they want to advance their
schemes for the Middle East.

TRANSLATION
درخت خشكيده و پوسيد هاي است كه
با يك طوفان درهم خواهد شكست
Derakht-e khoshkide va
puside’i ast ke ba yek tufan
dar ham khahad shekast.
A dried, rotten tree that will
collapse with a single storm.

TRANSLATION
رژيم صهيونيستي از بين رفتني
است
rezhim-e sahyonisti az bayn
raftani’st.
The Zionist regime is on its
way out [destructible

TRANSLATION
منطقه و جهان آماده تحولات
بزرگ و پاك شدن از دشمنان
اهريمني است
Mantaqe- va jehan amadeye
tahavolat-e bozorg va
pak shodan az doshmanan-e
ahrimani’st.
The region and the world are
prepared for great changes
and for being cleansed of
Satanic enemies.

 

[Toronado3800]

This article translates into "Muslims try to kill more Americans". Also translates into Muslims help hide Osama Bin Laden. Or the average Muslim turns a blind eye to the terrorist next door at best.

Its akin to knowing you have an aspiring drug dealer or wanna be Tony Soprano living next door to you and not calling the cops. Makes you part of the terrorist problem morally and a person who should EXPECT their house to be "accidentally" hit by bombs.

Something like, "I supported Hitler and somehow am mad at the Brits for bombing my mother's house at Dresden".

 

[Toronado3800]

Mike, that's pretty cool. Did you feed that to a google translator or do you speak arabic?

Anyone disagree with the translation?

 

[CMike]

Mike, that's pretty cool. Did you feed that to a google translator or do you speak arabic?

Anyone disagree with the translation?

It's from the translation analysis.

I provided the link.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You cannot refute the translation, dummy.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ&feature=fvw]YouTube - Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."[/ame]

The BS machine
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7rH4egQBU]YouTube - Rumour of the century (wiping Israel off the map)[/ame]

Nice try let's see what Achhead said.

http://www.jcpa.org/text/ahmadinejad2-words.pdf

TRANSLATION
و امام عزيز ما فرمودند كه اين
رژيم اشغالگر قدس بايد از صفحه
روزگار محو شود. اين جمله
بسيار حكيمانه است.
Va Imam-e aziz-e ma
farmudand ke in rezhim-e
eshghalgar-e Qods bayad
az safhe-ye ruzegar mahv
shaved. In jomle besyar
hakimane ast.
Our dear Imam [Khomeini]
ordered that this Jerusalem occupying
regime [Israel]
must be erased from the
page of time. This was a very
wise statement.

TRANSLATION
به زودي اين لكه ننگ را از دامان
دنياي اسلام پاك خواهد كرد و
اين شدني است.
Be-zudi in lake-ye nang ra az
damane donya-ye Islam pak
khahad kard, va in shodani’st.
Soon this stain of
disgrace will be cleaned
from the garment of
the world of Islam, and
this is attainable.

TRANSLATION
در منطقه خاورميانه نيز جرثومه
سياه و كثيفي به نام رژيم
صهيونيستي درست كرده اند تا
به جان مردم منطقه بيندازند و به
بهانه آن سياست هاي خود را در
خاورميانه پيش ببرند.
Dar mantaqe-ye Khavar-e
Miyane niz jarsum-e siyah
va kasifi be-nam-e rezhim-e
sahyonisti dorost kardeand
ta be-jan-e mardom-e
mantaqe biandazand va
be-behane-ye an siyasathaye
khod-ra dar Khavar-e
Miyane pish bebarand.
In the Middle East, they [the
global powers] have created
a black and filthy microbe
called the Zionist regime, so
they could use it to attack
the peoples of the region,
and by using this excuse,
they want to advance their
schemes for the Middle East.

TRANSLATION
درخت خشكيده و پوسيد هاي است كه
با يك طوفان درهم خواهد شكست
Derakht-e khoshkide va
puside’i ast ke ba yek tufan
dar ham khahad shekast.
A dried, rotten tree that will
collapse with a single storm.

TRANSLATION
رژيم صهيونيستي از بين رفتني
است
rezhim-e sahyonisti az bayn
raftani’st.
The Zionist regime is on its
way out [destructible

TRANSLATION
منطقه و جهان آماده تحولات
بزرگ و پاك شدن از دشمنان
اهريمني است
Mantaqe- va jehan amadeye
tahavolat-e bozorg va
pak shodan az doshmanan-e
ahrimani’st.
The region and the world are
prepared for great changes
and for being cleansed of
Satanic enemies.

Yeah so? Where is "wipe Israel off the map?"

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh yeah, and where is "and kill all the Jews" as the propagandists always add?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here is what Hamas says in arabic, it's all a ploy according to them for the eventual destruction of Israel

YouTube - Hamas and the stages of the destruction of Israel

Well, an honest one out of MEMRI. Thanks, good video.

 

[CMike]

YouTube - Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."

The BS machine
YouTube - Rumour of the century (wiping Israel off the map)

Nice try let's see what Achhead said.

http://www.jcpa.org/text/ahmadinejad2-words.pdf

TRANSLATION
و امام عزيز ما فرمودند كه اين
رژيم اشغالگر قدس بايد از صفحه
روزگار محو شود. اين جمله
بسيار حكيمانه است.
Va Imam-e aziz-e ma
farmudand ke in rezhim-e
eshghalgar-e Qods bayad
az safhe-ye ruzegar mahv
shaved. In jomle besyar
hakimane ast.
Our dear Imam [Khomeini]
ordered that this Jerusalem occupying
regime [Israel]
must be erased from the
page of time. This was a very
wise statement.

TRANSLATION
به زودي اين لكه ننگ را از دامان
دنياي اسلام پاك خواهد كرد و
اين شدني است.
Be-zudi in lake-ye nang ra az
damane donya-ye Islam pak
khahad kard, va in shodani’st.
Soon this stain of
disgrace will be cleaned
from the garment of
the world of Islam, and
this is attainable.

TRANSLATION
در منطقه خاورميانه نيز جرثومه
سياه و كثيفي به نام رژيم
صهيونيستي درست كرده اند تا
به جان مردم منطقه بيندازند و به
بهانه آن سياست هاي خود را در
خاورميانه پيش ببرند.
Dar mantaqe-ye Khavar-e
Miyane niz jarsum-e siyah
va kasifi be-nam-e rezhim-e
sahyonisti dorost kardeand
ta be-jan-e mardom-e
mantaqe biandazand va
be-behane-ye an siyasathaye
khod-ra dar Khavar-e
Miyane pish bebarand.
In the Middle East, they [the
global powers] have created
a black and filthy microbe
called the Zionist regime, so
they could use it to attack
the peoples of the region,
and by using this excuse,
they want to advance their
schemes for the Middle East.

TRANSLATION
درخت خشكيده و پوسيد هاي است كه
با يك طوفان درهم خواهد شكست
Derakht-e khoshkide va
puside’i ast ke ba yek tufan
dar ham khahad shekast.
A dried, rotten tree that will
collapse with a single storm.

TRANSLATION
رژيم صهيونيستي از بين رفتني
است
rezhim-e sahyonisti az bayn
raftani’st.
The Zionist regime is on its
way out [destructible

TRANSLATION
منطقه و جهان آماده تحولات
بزرگ و پاك شدن از دشمنان
اهريمني است
Mantaqe- va jehan amadeye
tahavolat-e bozorg va
pak shodan az doshmanan-e
ahrimani’st.
The region and the world are
prepared for great changes
and for being cleansed of
Satanic enemies.

Yeah so? Where is "wipe Israel off the map?"

You are funny

 

[CMike]

Oh yeah, and where is "and kill all the Jews" as the propagandists always add?

 

[P F Tinmore]

What Hamas says in english is irrelevant, what should concern us is what they say in arabic.

So, what do they say in English?

GAZA, (PIC)-- MP Dr. Aziz Dwaik, the Palestinian parliament speaker, confirmed Thursday that the meeting between him and British tycoon David Abrahams was made on the latter’s request, stressing that the Palestinian people will never recognize the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian land.

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en/...gw+fsRL+QkAB1V9GzQGsWp7B72K57WekRuEftHWE6YGc=

Hmmm. Same thing.

 

[Marc39]

The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.

The majority of Americans can't point to anything on a map.

And?

I have reason to believe that there's quite a bit of overlap between those Americans who don't know China from Chile and those who are sympathetic to Zionism.

Martin Luther King, Jr was "sympathetic" to Zionism, dummy...

I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality.

Go screw a camel.

 

[Kalam]

Martin Luther King, Jr was "sympathetic" to Zionism, dummy...

Who gives a ****?

"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs... Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home." - Mahatma Gandhi

"My sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and in the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after their return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?" - Mahatma Gandhi

I've been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about. - Archbishop Desmond Tutu

Go screw a camel.

Looking for something to watch, jew?

 

[CMike]

Martin Luther King, Jr was "sympathetic" to Zionism, dummy...

Who gives a ****?

"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs... Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home." - Mahatma Gandhi

"My sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and in the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after their return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?" - Mahatma Gandhi

I've been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about. - Archbishop Desmond Tutu

Go screw a camel.

Looking for something to watch, jew?

Focus!. He was talking about MLK not Ghandi or Tutu

 

[Kalam]

Focus!. He was talking about MLK not Ghandi or Tutu

He was making a logically fallacious appeal to authority, which I countered by posting quotes about the issue from other famous civil rights activists. Now, will you be able to understand the discussion on your own, or will I have to provide you with a cliff-noted version of this entire thread?

 

[Marc39]

"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs... Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home." - Mahatma Gandhi

"My sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and in the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after their return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?" - Mahatma Gandhi

I've been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about. - Archbishop Desmond Tutu

Go screw a camel.

Looking for something to watch, jew?

The Palestinians are excrement and ignorant nomads.

 

[Marc39]

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Go screw a camel.

Looking for something to watch, jew?

Yeah, sand rat.