BREAKING: King Obama to wave his scepter and create new gun purchase background checks

[jon_berzerk]

I am a conservative but I cannot imagine why background checks would be wrong when buying weapons. Please enlighten me. It should have been made law by Congress and not an EO.

We already have background checks in place, This is just another attempt to legislate away rights. Criminals don't go through checks.

felons are not required nor can they be prosecuted

for failing to "register" a firearm that they might have

should they reside in an area the requires registration

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I am a conservative but I cannot imagine why background checks would be wrong when buying weapons. Please enlighten me. It should have been made law by Congress and not an EO.

We already have background checks in place, This is just another attempt to legislate away rights. Criminals don't go through checks.

felons are not required nor can they be prosecuted

for failing to "register" a firearm that they might have

should they reside in an area the requires registration

If they are felons and get caught with a weapon they go back to jail.

 

[Dana7360]

What you don't know is that what you and your idiot president plan to do won't save a single life

Not my president, and I don't much like him, but he has this right.
You, on the other hand, have it wrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=0

The vast majority of guns used in 15 recent mass shootings, including at least two of the guns used in the San Bernardino attack, were bought legally and with a federal background check. At least eight gunmen had criminal histories or documented mental health problems that did not prevent them from obtaining their weapons.

New. stronger checks will help prevent many or most of the massive gun mass murders you see in the US.
Of course, the NRA and its dodgy pals don't want any gun control at all because when the US public realise the truth, they'll eventually force votes to dump the lot - and that's a lot of lost profit.

The so called stronger checks won't do anything, since most of the mass shootings were done with legally owned firearms.

Then if it won't do anything what's your problem with it?

 

[Dana7360]

Americans want comprehensive background checks

Congress has been blocking it for four years....let Obama do it

Sure! Let's let the dictator take over every aspect of our lives! What's few more violations of our constitutional rights between friends?

Background checks have already been through the courts and have been ruled constitutional.

Having background checks isn't taking over anyone's life. Stop lying.

 

[Stephanie]

this thug doesn't have this power to CHANGE our laws and I hope to see the States stand up to him again over this. he is not a DICKTATOR. Though he dreams of being one. All I see from him: he's just a lowlife street thug

 

[Dana7360]

We knew this would be coming.

Obama to announce new executive action on guns

CNN)President Barack Obama is expected to announce in the coming days a new executive action with the goal of expanding background checks on gun sales, people familiar with White House planning said.

Described as "imminent," the set of executive actions would fulfill a promise by the President to take further unilateral steps the White House says could help curb gun deaths.

Plans for the action are not yet complete, and those familiar with the process warn that unforeseen circumstances could delay an announcement. But gun control advocates are expecting the new actions to be revealed next week, ahead of Obama's annual State of the Union address, set for January 12.

The White House wouldn't comment directly on the exact timing or content of Obama's executive orders. White House spokesman Eric Schultz said that the President expected a set of recommendations on unilateral action to arrive at the beginning of the year.

He said Obama was "expressing urgency" for a list of steps he can take on his own after high-profile incidents of gun violence at the end of this year.

"It is complicated. That's why it's taken some time for our policy folks, our lawyers, and our expects to work through this and see what's possible," Schultz said.

Gun control advocates and White House officials say the focus remains on the so-called "gun show loophole," which allows certain sellers of guns -- at gun shows and elsewhere -- to avoid conducting background checks before making sales.

Months after the Newtown, Connecticut elementary school massacre that claimed 26 victims, the then-Democratic majority Senate rejected a similar proposal.

Congress would still need to act in order to make background checks fully universal. But advocates and administration lawyers have struck upon a provision in the law that could allow for Obama to expand the background check requirement to additional sellers.

Federal law currently requires all individuals "engaged in the business" of selling guns to obtain a license and conduct background checks on buyers. But others who only make occasional sales or are selling firearms from a personal collection are exempted from the background check requirement.

Gun control advocates say Obama could take action himself by issuing a regulation that provides expanded guidance on who falls under the "in the business" standard.

One group, the Michael Bloomberg-helmed Everytown for Gun Safety, has provided recommendations to the White House that include creating a test for assessing who must become licensed to continue selling guns. Factors would include volume and speed of sales, and whether or not the seller relies on advertising to sell guns.

The group also recommended Obama define a gun in a "personal collection" as having been in the seller's possession for at least a year.

Before leaving for his winter vacation in Hawaii, Obama met with Bloomberg at the White House to discuss gun control.

Aside from the background check provision, people familiar with Obama's plans say his new gun control announcement will include new funding for government agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.



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Obama to announce new executive action on guns - CNNPolitics.com

The current president has issued 227 Executive orders.

Ronald The Criminal Reagan issued 381. G W Bush issued 291.

Oh the fake outrage!!!

How many of those EOs by Reagan and Bush violated the Constitution?

We already know about the illegal immigration EO that the courts bitch-slapped Obama with!

Background checks have been through the courts and ruled constitutional.

Stop lying.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We knew this would be coming.

Obama to announce new executive action on guns

CNN)President Barack Obama is expected to announce in the coming days a new executive action with the goal of expanding background checks on gun sales, people familiar with White House planning said.

Described as "imminent," the set of executive actions would fulfill a promise by the President to take further unilateral steps the White House says could help curb gun deaths.

Plans for the action are not yet complete, and those familiar with the process warn that unforeseen circumstances could delay an announcement. But gun control advocates are expecting the new actions to be revealed next week, ahead of Obama's annual State of the Union address, set for January 12.

The White House wouldn't comment directly on the exact timing or content of Obama's executive orders. White House spokesman Eric Schultz said that the President expected a set of recommendations on unilateral action to arrive at the beginning of the year.

He said Obama was "expressing urgency" for a list of steps he can take on his own after high-profile incidents of gun violence at the end of this year.

"It is complicated. That's why it's taken some time for our policy folks, our lawyers, and our expects to work through this and see what's possible," Schultz said.

Gun control advocates and White House officials say the focus remains on the so-called "gun show loophole," which allows certain sellers of guns -- at gun shows and elsewhere -- to avoid conducting background checks before making sales.

Months after the Newtown, Connecticut elementary school massacre that claimed 26 victims, the then-Democratic majority Senate rejected a similar proposal.

Congress would still need to act in order to make background checks fully universal. But advocates and administration lawyers have struck upon a provision in the law that could allow for Obama to expand the background check requirement to additional sellers.

Federal law currently requires all individuals "engaged in the business" of selling guns to obtain a license and conduct background checks on buyers. But others who only make occasional sales or are selling firearms from a personal collection are exempted from the background check requirement.

Gun control advocates say Obama could take action himself by issuing a regulation that provides expanded guidance on who falls under the "in the business" standard.

One group, the Michael Bloomberg-helmed Everytown for Gun Safety, has provided recommendations to the White House that include creating a test for assessing who must become licensed to continue selling guns. Factors would include volume and speed of sales, and whether or not the seller relies on advertising to sell guns.

The group also recommended Obama define a gun in a "personal collection" as having been in the seller's possession for at least a year.

Before leaving for his winter vacation in Hawaii, Obama met with Bloomberg at the White House to discuss gun control.

Aside from the background check provision, people familiar with Obama's plans say his new gun control announcement will include new funding for government agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.



Promoted Stories

Obama to announce new executive action on guns - CNNPolitics.com

The current president has issued 227 Executive orders.

Ronald The Criminal Reagan issued 381. G W Bush issued 291.

Oh the fake outrage!!!

How many of those EOs by Reagan and Bush violated the Constitution?

We already know about the illegal immigration EO that the courts bitch-slapped Obama with!

Background checks have been through the courts and ruled constitutional.

Stop lying.

Do you honestly think a criminal who wants a firearm isn't going to get one because of a background check? LOL

 

[Dana7360]

Does this law actually stop anyone but those considered dangerous from owning a gun?

The answer is clearly, "No", so why would anyone oppose this law?

The arms industry's well paid bitches in the senate actually voted to stop gun control for terrorists.
Amazing, but done because once they accept any group can be stopped, they must accept other groups are equally possible.

It will not stop criminals from getting weapons it will, however, make it harder for law-abiding citizens to exercise their constitutional right to bear arms

It won't stop any law abiding citizen from getting a gun.

If you're a criminal, are a barbarian and beat up your spouse or have mental problems you won't get a gun.

If you're not one of those 3 things no one is going to stop you from getting a gun.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Does this law actually stop anyone but those considered dangerous from owning a gun?

The answer is clearly, "No", so why would anyone oppose this law?

The arms industry's well paid bitches in the senate actually voted to stop gun control for terrorists.
Amazing, but done because once they accept any group can be stopped, they must accept other groups are equally possible.

It will not stop criminals from getting weapons it will, however, make it harder for law-abiding citizens to exercise their constitutional right to bear arms

It won't stop any law abiding citizen from getting a gun.

If you're a criminal, are a barbarian and beat up your spouse or have mental problems you won't get a gun.

If you're not one of those 3 things no one is going to stop you from getting a gun.

If they want a gun they will get one anyway, just a fact

 

[Stephanie]

We knew this would be coming.

Obama to announce new executive action on guns

CNN)President Barack Obama is expected to announce in the coming days a new executive action with the goal of expanding background checks on gun sales, people familiar with White House planning said.

Described as "imminent," the set of executive actions would fulfill a promise by the President to take further unilateral steps the White House says could help curb gun deaths.

Plans for the action are not yet complete, and those familiar with the process warn that unforeseen circumstances could delay an announcement. But gun control advocates are expecting the new actions to be revealed next week, ahead of Obama's annual State of the Union address, set for January 12.

The White House wouldn't comment directly on the exact timing or content of Obama's executive orders. White House spokesman Eric Schultz said that the President expected a set of recommendations on unilateral action to arrive at the beginning of the year.

He said Obama was "expressing urgency" for a list of steps he can take on his own after high-profile incidents of gun violence at the end of this year.

"It is complicated. That's why it's taken some time for our policy folks, our lawyers, and our expects to work through this and see what's possible," Schultz said.

Gun control advocates and White House officials say the focus remains on the so-called "gun show loophole," which allows certain sellers of guns -- at gun shows and elsewhere -- to avoid conducting background checks before making sales.

Months after the Newtown, Connecticut elementary school massacre that claimed 26 victims, the then-Democratic majority Senate rejected a similar proposal.

Congress would still need to act in order to make background checks fully universal. But advocates and administration lawyers have struck upon a provision in the law that could allow for Obama to expand the background check requirement to additional sellers.

Federal law currently requires all individuals "engaged in the business" of selling guns to obtain a license and conduct background checks on buyers. But others who only make occasional sales or are selling firearms from a personal collection are exempted from the background check requirement.

Gun control advocates say Obama could take action himself by issuing a regulation that provides expanded guidance on who falls under the "in the business" standard.

One group, the Michael Bloomberg-helmed Everytown for Gun Safety, has provided recommendations to the White House that include creating a test for assessing who must become licensed to continue selling guns. Factors would include volume and speed of sales, and whether or not the seller relies on advertising to sell guns.

The group also recommended Obama define a gun in a "personal collection" as having been in the seller's possession for at least a year.

Before leaving for his winter vacation in Hawaii, Obama met with Bloomberg at the White House to discuss gun control.

Aside from the background check provision, people familiar with Obama's plans say his new gun control announcement will include new funding for government agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.



Promoted Stories

Obama to announce new executive action on guns - CNNPolitics.com

The current president has issued 227 Executive orders.

Ronald The Criminal Reagan issued 381. G W Bush issued 291.

Oh the fake outrage!!!

How many of those EOs by Reagan and Bush violated the Constitution?

We already know about the illegal immigration EO that the courts bitch-slapped Obama with!

Background checks have been through the courts and ruled constitutional.

Stop lying.

Do you honestly think a criminal who wants a firearm isn't going to get one because of a background check? LOL

the DNC trolls on this board are worthless and just spews the same ole crap over and over every time this BS of gun control come up. or when it comes to defending Obama and their PARTY. all heil Obama, all heil the Progressive/commie party. that's how I view them

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We knew this would be coming.



Obama to announce new executive action on guns - CNNPolitics.com

The current president has issued 227 Executive orders.

Ronald The Criminal Reagan issued 381. G W Bush issued 291.

Oh the fake outrage!!!

How many of those EOs by Reagan and Bush violated the Constitution?

We already know about the illegal immigration EO that the courts bitch-slapped Obama with!

Background checks have been through the courts and ruled constitutional.

Stop lying.

Do you honestly think a criminal who wants a firearm isn't going to get one because of a background check? LOL

the DNC trolls on this board are worthless and just spews the same ole crap over and over every time this BS of gun control come up. or when it comes to defending Obama and their PARTY. all heil Obama, all heil the Progressive/commie party. that's how I view them

I know but they think they are changing the world!!!!! LOL Goofs

 

[Dana7360]

Since the contract of the Constitution allows for regulation of weapons in the USA, if you don't like the rules, don't buy a weapon...

No, not unless the government is selling or buying the guns with me.

Otherwise they are an unwanted and intrusive third party.

i am unaware of the part the Constitution that calls for regulating firearms

And no where in COTUS is anything allowing the government to regulate biological weapons, nuclear weapons or chemical weapons. Or to regulate Marijuana or opium poppies.

Even Saint Ronald understood the need for sane policies on the issue of gun proliferation:

Did Reagan support an assault-weapons ban?

The correct answer to the person you were replying to is:

The Commerce Clause in the constitution. The government clearly has the constitutional right and power to regulate commerce.

When goods or services are exchanged for money, that's commerce.

So the constitution most certainly says the government can regulate gun sales.

Which is why the courts of our nation have upheld gun regulations laws.

Printz v. United States restricted congressional legislative authority by striking down the many provisions of the brady handgun violence prevention act

That doesn't show that background checks are unconstitutional.

If they were they would have been struck down.

You can't be that stupid. Can you?

 

[Dana7360]

Just what are you hiding?
You will need to take a drug test also now...

Yeah that will work in Chicago with the gangs. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

He is wanting to close the loop hole for gun show dealers...oh my!!!

There is no loophole. Y'all need to stop saying that.

There is a HUGE loophole.

Only licensed dealers have to do the check. Those who aren't licensed don't. They can sell a gun to anyone at any time without any background check.

Then there's online sales and sales through printed media. None of those have to have a background check.

But, if you're right and there is no loophole, what's the problem? If there is no loophole then there is no reason to not want the president to do anything if what he does is useless.

Right. It's called, "selling private property". It's that whole freedom and liberty thing that Liberaals despise so much.

No one is stopping anyone from selling anything privately.

All that's being done is requiring a background check.

It's been required in my state since 2014. No one has stopped private sales. All that's happening now is a proper background check.

So stop lying.

 

[Dana7360]

I am a conservative but I cannot imagine why background checks would be wrong when buying weapons. Please enlighten me. It should have been made law by Congress and not an EO.

We already have background checks in place, This is just another attempt to legislate away rights. Criminals don't go through checks.

What rights have been taken away?

Yes they don't go through background checks because it's not required for private sales in most states.

When it's required less crazy people and criminals get guns.

Which saves innocent lives.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Probably the reason so many of these people are against background checks is because there is something of a 'mental' nature in their histories that would come to light.

 

[jon_berzerk]

I am a conservative but I cannot imagine why background checks would be wrong when buying weapons. Please enlighten me. It should have been made law by Congress and not an EO.

We already have background checks in place, This is just another attempt to legislate away rights. Criminals don't go through checks.

felons are not required nor can they be prosecuted

for failing to "register" a firearm that they might have

should they reside in an area the requires registration

If they are felons and get caught with a weapon they go back to jail.

indeed however registration laws do not apply to them

 

[Dana7360]

We knew this would be coming.

Obama to announce new executive action on guns

CNN)President Barack Obama is expected to announce in the coming days a new executive action with the goal of expanding background checks on gun sales, people familiar with White House planning said.

Described as "imminent," the set of executive actions would fulfill a promise by the President to take further unilateral steps the White House says could help curb gun deaths.

Plans for the action are not yet complete, and those familiar with the process warn that unforeseen circumstances could delay an announcement. But gun control advocates are expecting the new actions to be revealed next week, ahead of Obama's annual State of the Union address, set for January 12.

The White House wouldn't comment directly on the exact timing or content of Obama's executive orders. White House spokesman Eric Schultz said that the President expected a set of recommendations on unilateral action to arrive at the beginning of the year.

He said Obama was "expressing urgency" for a list of steps he can take on his own after high-profile incidents of gun violence at the end of this year.

"It is complicated. That's why it's taken some time for our policy folks, our lawyers, and our expects to work through this and see what's possible," Schultz said.

Gun control advocates and White House officials say the focus remains on the so-called "gun show loophole," which allows certain sellers of guns -- at gun shows and elsewhere -- to avoid conducting background checks before making sales.

Months after the Newtown, Connecticut elementary school massacre that claimed 26 victims, the then-Democratic majority Senate rejected a similar proposal.

Congress would still need to act in order to make background checks fully universal. But advocates and administration lawyers have struck upon a provision in the law that could allow for Obama to expand the background check requirement to additional sellers.

Federal law currently requires all individuals "engaged in the business" of selling guns to obtain a license and conduct background checks on buyers. But others who only make occasional sales or are selling firearms from a personal collection are exempted from the background check requirement.

Gun control advocates say Obama could take action himself by issuing a regulation that provides expanded guidance on who falls under the "in the business" standard.

One group, the Michael Bloomberg-helmed Everytown for Gun Safety, has provided recommendations to the White House that include creating a test for assessing who must become licensed to continue selling guns. Factors would include volume and speed of sales, and whether or not the seller relies on advertising to sell guns.

The group also recommended Obama define a gun in a "personal collection" as having been in the seller's possession for at least a year.

Before leaving for his winter vacation in Hawaii, Obama met with Bloomberg at the White House to discuss gun control.

Aside from the background check provision, people familiar with Obama's plans say his new gun control announcement will include new funding for government agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.



Promoted Stories

Obama to announce new executive action on guns - CNNPolitics.com

The current president has issued 227 Executive orders.

Ronald The Criminal Reagan issued 381. G W Bush issued 291.

Oh the fake outrage!!!

How many of those EOs by Reagan and Bush violated the Constitution?

We already know about the illegal immigration EO that the courts bitch-slapped Obama with!

Background checks have been through the courts and ruled constitutional.

Stop lying.

Do you honestly think a criminal who wants a firearm isn't going to get one because of a background check? LOL

Yes I do and I have the proof to back it up.

In Colorado:

State: New background check law stopped 72 private gun sales to criminals | FOX31 Denver

In Virginia:

Virginia Background Checks Have Stopped 16,000 Felons From Buying Guns: DCist

Here's numbers from the whole nation 700 thousand criminals have been prevented from getting a gun legally by 2012.

Background checks stopped 700k from buying guns, 80.3% criminals. Make them universal. | Gun Violence Prevention | Pinterest | Gun Control, Guns and Backgrounds

Here's one for the nation from 2014:

Report: Checks stop 2.1M gun buys - POLITICO


Stop lying.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yeah that will work in Chicago with the gangs. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

He is wanting to close the loop hole for gun show dealers...oh my!!!

There is no loophole. Y'all need to stop saying that.

There is a HUGE loophole.

Only licensed dealers have to do the check. Those who aren't licensed don't. They can sell a gun to anyone at any time without any background check.

Then there's online sales and sales through printed media. None of those have to have a background check.

But, if you're right and there is no loophole, what's the problem? If there is no loophole then there is no reason to not want the president to do anything if what he does is useless.

Right. It's called, "selling private property". It's that whole freedom and liberty thing that Liberaals despise so much.

No one is stopping anyone from selling anything privately.

All that's being done is requiring a background check.

It's been required in my state since 2014. No one has stopped private sales. All that's happening now is a proper background check.

So stop lying.

requiring a background check between private parties

did not stop the terrorist shooters in California

do you really think that criminals or terrorists care about background checks

you cant be that stupid can you

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We knew this would be coming.



Obama to announce new executive action on guns - CNNPolitics.com

The current president has issued 227 Executive orders.

Ronald The Criminal Reagan issued 381. G W Bush issued 291.

Oh the fake outrage!!!

How many of those EOs by Reagan and Bush violated the Constitution?

We already know about the illegal immigration EO that the courts bitch-slapped Obama with!

Background checks have been through the courts and ruled constitutional.

Stop lying.

Do you honestly think a criminal who wants a firearm isn't going to get one because of a background check? LOL

Yes I do and I have the proof to back it up.

In Colorado:

State: New background check law stopped 72 private gun sales to criminals | FOX31 Denver

In Virginia:

Virginia Background Checks Have Stopped 16,000 Felons From Buying Guns: DCist

Here's numbers from the whole nation 700 thousand criminals have been prevented from getting a gun legally by 2012.

Background checks stopped 700k from buying guns, 80.3% criminals. Make them universal. | Gun Violence Prevention | Pinterest | Gun Control, Guns and Backgrounds

Here's one for the nation from 2014:

Report: Checks stop 2.1M gun buys - POLITICO


Stop lying.

You honestly don't think someone who wants a gun can't get one? You're daft

 

[Moonglow]

The current president has issued 227 Executive orders.

Ronald The Criminal Reagan issued 381. G W Bush issued 291.

Oh the fake outrage!!!

How many of those EOs by Reagan and Bush violated the Constitution?

We already know about the illegal immigration EO that the courts bitch-slapped Obama with!

Background checks have been through the courts and ruled constitutional.

Stop lying.

Do you honestly think a criminal who wants a firearm isn't going to get one because of a background check? LOL

Yes I do and I have the proof to back it up.

In Colorado:

State: New background check law stopped 72 private gun sales to criminals | FOX31 Denver

In Virginia:

Virginia Background Checks Have Stopped 16,000 Felons From Buying Guns: DCist

Here's numbers from the whole nation 700 thousand criminals have been prevented from getting a gun legally by 2012.

Background checks stopped 700k from buying guns, 80.3% criminals. Make them universal. | Gun Violence Prevention | Pinterest | Gun Control, Guns and Backgrounds

Here's one for the nation from 2014:

Report: Checks stop 2.1M gun buys - POLITICO


Stop lying.

You honestly don't think someone who wants a gun can't get one? You're daft

same with drugs, yet they is illegal...