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[JoeB131]

he city never let cops murder any children. You have a propensity for floating these silly conspiracy theories.

I understand you want to flail your Pom Poms for the antifa misfit heroes you idolize but what does it say about you when your heroes are these epic losers?

Tamir Rice. Laquan McDonald. Yes, the cops are killing children and largely getting away with it.

That's why people demonstrated.

Portland was a bit of an oddity, because the riots lasted a lot longer and were largely perpetrated by white people, and started before George Floyd was murdered. .

 

[Hollie]

Tamir Rice. Laquan McDonald. Yes, the cops are killing children and largely getting away with it.

That's why people demonstrated.

Portland was a bit of an oddity, because the riots lasted a lot longer and were largely perpetrated by white people, and started before George Floyd was murdered. .

Why don’t you identify the circumstances of two people who you claim support your conspiracy of cops killing children?

Was Tamir Rice carrying what was indistinguishable from a real handgun?

Odd that you’re fine with Dem / Marxist policies in big cities allowing for dozens of shooting every weekend.

You’re just selectively “outraged”… when it’s convenient.

 

[JoeB131]

Why don’t you identify the circumstances of two people who you claim support your conspiracy of cops killing children?

Was Tamir Rice carrying what was indistinguishable from a real handgun?

At the point he was shot, the toy was under his coat. The officer involved didn't even give him a chance to explain himself. He just jumped out of the car and shot him, no warning.

Since you didn't bring it up, the case of Laquan McDonald is even worse. (Again, I have a personal connection as my brother is friends with the officer involved. We haven't been on speaking terms for six years.) The child was shot 16 times, 10 of them when he was lying on the ground. The CPD hid the video of the incident for a year and openly lied about it.

Odd that you’re fine with Dem / Marxist policies in big cities allowing for dozens of shooting every weekend.

Except they aren't allowed. When a poor person shoots another poor person, they are arrested, prosecuted, and put in prison. Sometimes the police even get the right person. (I got to know a young man who spent 10 years in prison because the CPD beat a false confession out of one of his friends.) Suspects are often kept in jail for years without trial, often for crimes less serious than murder.

When a cop shoots someone, the FOP goes to the mattresses, demonizes the victim, and defends the bad actors to the hilt.

If every suspect got lawyers of the quality that Van Dyke, Loehman, and Wilson got, we could empty out the jails.

You’re just selectively “outraged”… when it’s convenient.

No, I'm appropriately outraged. Joe's ideal world, we wouldn't have streets flooded with guns, we wouldn't have the grinding poverty that leads to so much crime, we wouldn't let the mentally ill wander the streets untreated. We would treat addiction as a medical problem and not a criminal one.

None of which have to do with the fact that the police are allowed to get away with murder because we have system that protects bad cops.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

At the point he was shot, the toy was under his coat. The officer involved didn't even give him a chance to explain himself. He just jumped out of the car and shot him, no warning.

Since you didn't bring it up, the case of Laquan McDonald is even worse. (Again, I have a personal connection as my brother is friends with the officer involved. We haven't been on speaking terms for six years.) The child was shot 16 times, 10 of them when he was lying on the ground. The CPD hid the video of the incident for a year and openly lied about it.



Except they aren't allowed. When a poor person shoots another poor person, they are arrested, prosecuted, and put in prison. Sometimes the police even get the right person. (I got to know a young man who spent 10 years in prison because the CPD beat a false confession out of one of his friends.) Suspects are often kept in jail for years without trial, often for crimes less serious than murder.

When a cop shoots someone, the FOP goes to the mattresses, demonizes the victim, and defends the bad actors to the hilt.

If every suspect got lawyers of the quality that Van Dyke, Loehman, and Wilson got, we could empty out the jails.



No, I'm appropriately outraged. Joe's ideal world, we wouldn't have streets flooded with guns, we wouldn't have the grinding poverty that leads to so much crime, we wouldn't let the mentally ill wander the streets untreated. We would treat addiction as a medical problem and not a criminal one.

None of which have to do with the fact that the police are allowed to get away with murder because we have system that protects bad cops.

These people are ridiculous......



They love government tyranny and the police boot -- as long as that boot is on the neck of children they find scary.....like this imposing gigantic beast of a man...

 

[Hollie]

At the point he was shot, the toy was under his coat. The officer involved didn't even give him a chance to explain himself. He just jumped out of the car and shot him, no warning.

Since you didn't bring it up, the case of Laquan McDonald is even worse. (Again, I have a personal connection as my brother is friends with the officer involved. We haven't been on speaking terms for six years.) The child was shot 16 times, 10 of them when he was lying on the ground. The CPD hid the video of the incident for a year and openly lied about it.



Except they aren't allowed. When a poor person shoots another poor person, they are arrested, prosecuted, and put in prison. Sometimes the police even get the right person. (I got to know a young man who spent 10 years in prison because the CPD beat a false confession out of one of his friends.) Suspects are often kept in jail for years without trial, often for crimes less serious than murder.

When a cop shoots someone, the FOP goes to the mattresses, demonizes the victim, and defends the bad actors to the hilt.

If every suspect got lawyers of the quality that Van Dyke, Loehman, and Wilson got, we could empty out the jails.



No, I'm appropriately outraged. Joe's ideal world, we wouldn't have streets flooded with guns, we wouldn't have the grinding poverty that leads to so much crime, we wouldn't let the mentally ill wander the streets untreated. We would treat addiction as a medical problem and not a criminal one.

None of which have to do with the fact that the police are allowed to get away with murder because we have system that protects bad cops.

Except you failed to identify that the police were called the scene over reports of someone brandishing a gun and pointing it at people.

Except you failed to identify that the subject refused repested requests to show his hands.

Except you failed to identify that the subject appeared to be reaching into his pockets.

Except your silly whining ignores the weekly shootings and killings in the Dem / Marxist run cities which are just an annoyance in the face of your SJW whining.

 

[MagicMike]

Showed the DNC and Hillary created and paid for your Russia, Russia, Russia, religion.

You apparently missed the part where he testified that Russia did in fact hack the 2016 election in order to help Trump get elected.
Try to keep up Delldud.
Things move too fast here to have to be constantly doing remedial classes just for YOU.

 

[JoeB131]

Except you failed to identify that the police were called the scene over reports of someone brandishing a gun and pointing it at people.

The people who called in also said they thought it was a toy.

Killing of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A 9-1-1 caller, who was sitting in a nearby gazebo, reported that someone, possibly a juvenile, was pointing "a pistol" at random people at the Cudell Recreation Center. The caller twice said that the gun was "probably fake".

Except you failed to identify that the subject refused repested requests to show his hands.

Actually, Loehmann shot Rice within 2 seconds of jumping out of the car.

Rice appears to move his hand, an action police experts concluded was Rice reaching for his waist band but disputed by expert reports released by Rice family attorneys, before Loehmann jumps out of the car and immediately shoots Rice from a distance of less than 10 feet (3.0 m).[29][30][34][35] The entire incident happened within a span of two seconds.[36]

Except you failed to identify that the subject appeared to be reaching into his pockets.

See above.

Except your silly whining ignores the weekly shootings and killings in the Dem / Marxist run cities which are just an annoyance in the face of your SJW whining.

Not at all. Let these cities ban guns and give them enough money to have diversion programs, and THEN we can talk.

 

[Hollie]

The people who called in also said they thought it was a toy.

Killing of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A 9-1-1 caller, who was sitting in a nearby gazebo, reported that someone, possibly a juvenile, was pointing "a pistol" at random people at the Cudell Recreation Center. The caller twice said that the gun was "probably fake".



Actually, Loehmann shot Rice within 2 seconds of jumping out of the car.

Rice appears to move his hand, an action police experts concluded was Rice reaching for his waist band but disputed by expert reports released by Rice family attorneys, before Loehmann jumps out of the car and immediately shoots Rice from a distance of less than 10 feet (3.0 m).[29][30][34][35] The entire incident happened within a span of two seconds.[36]



See above.



Not at all. Let these cities ban guns and give them enough money to have diversion programs, and THEN we can talk.

People who thought it might be a toy was informstion not relayed to the police.

From the wiki link you used:
“At the beginning of the call and again in the middle, he says of the pistol "it's probably fake."[7] Toward the end of the two-minute call the caller states that "he is probably a juvenile", but the dispatcher did not relay either of these statements to Loehmann and Garmback.”

Oh, the solution offered by the self-loathing leftist. “Ban guns”.

Gee whiz. Lecture us about criminals who will obey laws.

 

[Delldude]

You apparently missed the part where he testified that Russia did in fact hack the 2016 election in order to help Trump get elected.
Try to keep up Delldud.
Things move too fast here to have to be constantly doing remedial classes just for YOU.

You must have missed the part where Mueller said there was no link to that with the Trump campaign. If I'm wrong, feel free to post his testimony.

Not really.
That's all in your imagination.
Joe and family are laughing at the MAGAt hysteria.

LOL.....while MSM is swirling in the water over the IRS testimony......LOL

Fake news.

You are the fake.

 

[JoeB131]

People who thought it might be a toy was informstion not relayed to the police.

And if Loehmann had taken the time to approach the child rather than just shooting at him before he had a chance to react, he'd have found out it was a toy.

Oh, the solution offered by the self-loathing leftist. “Ban guns”.

Gee whiz. Lecture us about criminals who will obey laws.

Tamir Rice wasn't a criminal. He was a child playing with a toy in a park. And he was shot because a cop didn't bother to take the time to determine otherwise.

Then you find out that that Timothy Loehmann was dismissed from his previous job because he was found to be mentally unstable and lacking the maturity to become a police officer. But Cleveland signed him right up.

 

[Hollie]

And if Loehmann had taken the time to approach the child rather than just shooting at him before he had a chance to react, he'd have found out it was a toy.



Tamir Rice wasn't a criminal. He was a child playing with a toy in a park. And he was shot because a cop didn't bother to take the time to determine otherwise.

Then you find out that that Timothy Loehmann was dismissed from his previous job because he was found to be mentally unstable and lacking the maturity to become a police officer. But Cleveland signed him right up.

And if Loehmann had gotten shot, you, as a self-loathing white person, would be flailing your Pom Poms because another horrible white person was dead.

Yes, you defend a child brandishing a gun, pointing it at people, as just a game. No one knew if the gun was real or not. Then you find out later that a “child” with a real firearm kills real people for $20 and bragging rights on the street.

Typical among the self-loathing left that criminals are held as role models and a protected class.

 

[Delldude]

Tamir Rice wasn't a criminal. He was a child playing with a toy in a park. And he was shot because a cop didn't bother to take the time to determine otherwise.

Wait for the flash.

 

[JoeB131]

And if Loehmann had gotten shot, you, as a self-loathing white person, would be flailing your Pom Poms because another horrible white person was dead.

Yes, you defend a child brandishing a gun, pointing it at people, as just a game. No one knew if the gun was real or not. Then you find out later that a “child” with a real firearm kills real people for $20 and bragging rights on the street.

Typical among the self-loathing left that criminals are held as role models and a protected class.

Uh, your side is the one that flooded out streets with guns...

But Tamir Rice didn't have a gun. He had a toy. He was in a park, where children routinely play with toys. The person who called it in thought, "Hey, that's a kid with a toy."

Now, on the topic of officers getting shot. 2020, only 48 officers were shot in the line of duty, but 1000 suspects or bystanders were killed by police.

Something is very askew with these numbers, if everyones gots guns.

 

[Hollie]

Uh, your side is the one that flooded out streets with guns...

But Tamir Rice didn't have a gun. He had a toy. He was in a park, where children routinely play with toys. The person who called it in thought, "Hey, that's a kid with a toy."

Now, on the topic of officers getting shot. 2020, only 48 officers were shot in the line of duty, but 1000 suspects or bystanders were killed by police.

Something is very askew with these numbers, if everyones gots guns.

Uh, no. It wasn’t “my side” that flooded the streets with guns. One can make the case that leftists, who were the defund the police groupies, along with leftist DA’s and prosecutors who refused to charge criminals were the ones who flooded the streets with guns.

But no one knew Tamir Rice didn’t have a real gun. Why was he waving a gun around and pointing it at people?

What parks exist where children routinely wave guns around and point those guns at people. Only in the warped reality of the misfit leftist does that happen.

As the link you provided pointed out, relevant information about the circumstances were not relayed to police.

Now, on the topic of police getting shot, you offer nothing of relevance. Something is very askew with your pointless attempt at some meaningless comparison… and no one is surprised at that.

 

[otto105]

And if Loehmann had gotten shot, you, as a self-loathing white person, would be flailing your Pom Poms because another horrible white person was dead.

Yes, you defend a child brandishing a gun, pointing it at people, as just a game. No one knew if the gun was real or not. Then you find out later that a “child” with a real firearm kills real people for $20 and bragging rights on the street.

Typical among the self-loathing left that criminals are held as role models and a protected class.

Question did the officer confirm threat of a gun before he fired.

Question did the child brandish a gun before the cop fired.

 

[JoeB131]

Uh, no. It wasn’t “my side” that flooded the streets with guns. One can make the case that leftists, who were the defund the police groupies, along with leftist DA’s and prosecutors who refused to charge criminals were the ones who flooded the streets with guns.

Nope. The police were never "defunded". in fact police spending has increased consistently.

But no one knew Tamir Rice didn’t have a real gun. Why was he waving a gun around and pointing it at people?

Uh, that's what kids do in parks with toys. If you can't tell the difference between a grown-ass man and a 12 year old child, you probably shouldn't be a cop. Which is exactly what the last PD that Loehmann worked for said.

Cleveland police officer who shot Tamir Rice was unfit for duty years ago, records show

The Cleveland police officer who shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice last week was previously “distracted” and “weepy” during his firearms qualification training at a suburban Ohio police department, new internal documents revealed Wednesday.

www.pbs.org

During his brief tenure at the Independence, Ohio Police Department, Deputy Chief Jim Polak said Tim Loehmann’s handgun performance was poor.

“He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal,” Polak said in a letter to human resources, dated November 29, 2012, found in Loehmann’s personnel file.

Polak added that he did not believe Loehmann was mature enough to work at IPD, due to a “dangerous loss of composure during live range training and his inability to manage this personal stress.”

 

[Hollie]

Nope. The police were never "defunded". in fact police spending has increased consistently.

Uh, that's what kids do in parks with toys. If you can't tell the difference between a grown-ass man and a 12 year old child, you probably shouldn't be a cop. Which is exactly what the last PD that Loehmann worked for said.

Cleveland police officer who shot Tamir Rice was unfit for duty years ago, records show

The Cleveland police officer who shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice last week was previously “distracted” and “weepy” during his firearms qualification training at a suburban Ohio police department, new internal documents revealed Wednesday.

www.pbs.org

During his brief tenure at the Independence, Ohio Police Department, Deputy Chief Jim Polak said Tim Loehmann’s handgun performance was poor.

“He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal,” Polak said in a letter to human resources, dated November 29, 2012, found in Loehmann’s personnel file.

Polak added that he did not believe Loehmann was mature enough to work at IPD, due to a “dangerous loss of composure during live range training and his inability to manage this personal stress.”

Your silly conspiracy theories about cities not defunding the police are a waste of time.

At Least 13 Cities Are Defunding Their Police Departments

Austin joined a growing list of U.S. cities cutting funding or personnel from their police departments.

www.forbes.com

Opinion | The Deadly Results of Defunding the Police

Makhi Buckly, 19, my colleague’s grandson, became a casualty on Memorial Day.

www.wsj.com

PolitiFact - U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan's list of cities that 'defunded' police doesn't account for reversals

Video footage of Memphis, Tennessee, police officers beating Tyre Nichols, a Black man who later died of the injuries he

www.politifact.com

Uh, you still haven't identified where kids play in parks pointing guns at people.

I'm sure you don't understand the utter absurdity of the nonsense claims you make.

 

[JoeB131]

Your silly conspiracy theories about cities not defunding the police are a waste of time.

Um, the last one says your side lied.

We keep throwing more and more money at the cops, and they don't get any better.

Uh, you still haven't identified where kids play in parks pointing guns at people.

They don't. they point TOYS at each other.
Rice had a TOY gun.

 

[Hollie]

Um, the last one says your side lied.

We keep throwing more and more money at the cops, and they don't get any better.


They don't. they point TOYS at each other.
Rice had a TOY gun.

Um, your conspiracy theories are becoming sillier by the minute.

Dens / Marxists keep defunding police while keeping criminals on the streets. What's the over / under on how many gang shootings and deaths will occur in Chicago over the July 4th weekend? Sounds like a party.

Uh, you still haven't identified where kids play in parks pointing guns at people.

 

[JoeB131]

Dens / Marxists keep defunding police while keeping criminals on the streets. What's the over / under on how many gang shootings and deaths will occur in Chicago over the July 4th weekend? Sounds like a party.

Except police spending increased. And we lock up more people than any country on Earth.

Again, Chicago has a murder problem because you idiots made us get rid of our sensible gun laws.