Breaking confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart 18 ppl shot

[Faun]

No doubt about that. He said in his manifesto not to blame Trump but clearly his goals are similar to Trump's but with more violence.

What is really scary about this manifesto is that much of the ideas and language is very similar to what appears on this board. This tells me that there are a lot of others out there ready follow in his footsteps.

Yep.

There's still a huge step between mouthing off from the safety of one's home, and walking into a Wall Mart putting one's life on the line, which is why most of the silly geezers on here will never so much as hear a shot fired in anger. Yet, it serves to demonstrate how Trump's hate-filled rhetoric - mindful that the propaganda feeding into anti-immigrant resentments predates Trump - places seeds that sprout into mass murderous hatred.

There is more than a slight chance that a huge chunk of the driving force behind the anti-PC venom is exactly this: Driving an ever bigger number of White supremacists completely bonkers so that they morph into the modern-day KKK (no white, pointy hats, but ever more powerful guns), and threaten minorities into submission. Of course, they will then be declared "bad apples", "insane" or some version thereof, so that modern-day Republicans can wash their hands off their complicity.

What about the Dayton shooter? Elizabeth Warren's fault? or nah

What did Warren say or do to inspire his deadly attack?

 

[JoeB131]

What about the Dayton shooter? Elizabeth Warren's fault? or nah

Except the only source for that is right wing websites.

Did Liz demonize people as rapists and murderers and animals and call where they came from Shitholes?

 

[Cellblock2429]

BREAKING NOW: Confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart; 18 people shot
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It's been a few you still haven' t noticed the ........

/——/ Well, it looks like Mexico is suing the US because some of their people were killed at Walmart. When will we sue Mexico for all the Americans killed by Mexican illegals? Mexican government vows legal action against US in response to El Paso mass shooting

 

[Blues Man]

Not really.

The vast majority of the country is very safe.

All our violence is concentrated into small easily avoidable areas.

But since you come from such a small country you seem to be lacking a sense of the size of the US

All our violence is concentrated into small easily avoidable areas.
None of the three mass shootings in the past week were in those "small, easily avoidable" areas. There is no place left that is safe.
After weeks like this, I walk out my front door, same as I do every day, but thinking "is someone going to shoot me?" If it can happen in Gilroy and ElPaso and a trendy part of Dayton, it can happen in my neighborhood.

No man is an island, entire of itself. Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main...
or something like that.

Mass shootings account for less than 1% of all murders

Care to guess where over 70% of all murders take place?
Care to guess where the mos violent crimes take place?

All you seem to care about is less than 1% of all murder victims

I'm pretty damned concerned about them, yeah.

and yet you never mention them all you seem to post about is the less than 1% of all murders

Why is this suddenly about me?
Yeah, I care about that less than 1% of murders. Is there a reason I shouldn't?

It's all you seem to care about.

When was the last time you started or posted in a thread about the 70% of murders that happen in our urban areas?

 

[Blues Man]

I blame liberals for this too.

I blame them for taking up YEARS....YEARS.....of media coverage on NOTHING but the STUPID "Russia" hoax while we are dealing with a mental health crisis like you wouldn't believe in schools, in hospitals, everywhere. That is REAL news. Not inane DC news that affects NOONE. Real news that tragically has now gotten people killed.

Leftists will scatter like roaches at this post too.

Right. We know only the liberal media engages in this while the conservative media spends pages and pages covering the Benghazi Hoax and the Seth Richards Conspiracy Theory and endless rounds of evil Hillary rehashes. Where is the mental health coverage?

I blame us. We read it. We spread it. We want it. We bring in money for the media corporations. If we did not consume it, they wouldn’t print it.it is a business.

Why aren’t we demanding better mental health care? More crisis center? Why are the mentally ill housed in prisons I’ll equipt to care for them? Why are budgets for mental health first to be cut every time there is a state budget crisis? It sure isn’t just a blue state problem.

Quit blaming liberals for everything and look in the mirror. It is us.

Finger pointing gets us nowhere.

We, the American People, do not consider mental health to be important enough as we lurch from crisis to crisis. It still carries a huge stigma and little sympathy. Too many see it as a character flaw and not a disease.

I'm not sure that all mass shooters are mentally ill, Coyote. I believe people can be perfectly sane and still be evil enough to do what they do. I'm not a psychiatrist, so I could be wrong, but I'm not at all sure that "counseling" would have changed this guy's mind. He was politically saturated to the point he was ready to sacrifice his life for "the cause."

He was radicalized by far right extremist ideology.

If he was radicalized he did it to himself

No one can make anyone believe what he doesn't already believe

 

[JoeB131]

It's all you seem to care about.

When was the last time you started or posted in a thread about the 70% of murders that happen in our urban areas?

Hey, funny thing... if you ban guns... those go down, too.

Amazing how that works.

 

[beagle9]

Here's a grand Idea.... Maybe every race, culture, and creed could stand with Trump to fix this nation for all, instead of fighting him over their own personal agenda's that work only for them and their specific groups in the nation, yet all the while abusing other groups in the nation unfairly.

Try it everyone, and you will realize just how great this nation can be for every race, culture, and creed here.

The instigator's of division, and the ones who cause nothing but trouble in this nation needs to be legally dealt with. Enough of the manipulating lying bullcrap already.

So, you want trump to sue the people who point out his racism as a way to bring us together?

Yep, because if his critics are just yelling fire in a crowded theater, then they should be held accountable for that bullcrap. Politics knows no bounds when it comes to lust for power.

 

[Blues Man]

What firepower.....a 5 shot, pump action shotgun killed just as many people, but wounded more in the Russian school shooting....

It isn't the gun, you moron, it is how much free time the shooter has before someone else points a gun at him...

As soon as someone pointed a gun at this guy he surrendered......just like almost all the other shooters...which is why they pick gun free zones to attack.

I know you have this big wank fantasy about pulling your gun and stopping a mass shooter...

But the reality is, most of you gun nuts would cower in a corner confronted by a nut like this.

I thought Texas was open carry? Where were all the Pistol Petes charging in with their six shooters? All the fierce brave Texas gunslingers?

Buying a gun does not make a person a hero. What it can do is empower cowards to kill innocent people.
9 killed in Dayton, 27 injured only hours after El Paso

A private citizen owns guns for one overwhelming reason;self defense.

The bad acts of a fraction of a percent of people is not reason enough to tell the rest of the population they can't own guns

 

[beagle9]

BO took out ads in SouthAmerica explaining how to claim asylum when come across, surrender. We will care for you.
When you vote.....you are a Citizen.

can you work on your literacy, buddy. Fact is, Obama deported more people than Bush did and tightened border security.

You're not suppose to say that about Obama... Tsk, tsk.

 

[Blues Man]

It's all you seem to care about.

When was the last time you started or posted in a thread about the 70% of murders that happen in our urban areas?

Hey, funny thing... if you ban guns... those go down, too.

Amazing how that works.

You can ride your unicorn to the ceremony for the repeal of the second amendment too

 

[2aguy]

It's all you seem to care about.

When was the last time you started or posted in a thread about the 70% of murders that happen in our urban areas?

Hey, funny thing... if you ban guns... those go down, too.

Amazing how that works.

The shooter in ohio supported your view...

The El Paso shooter shared your views on the environment......

Dayton, Ohio shooter is a registered Democrat and a gun control advocate - Crime Prevention Research Center

He also self described himself on Twitter as a “leftist.” This killer obviously also supported gun control and was very upset when the one of Ohio’s US Senators did not support the gun control he thought was necessary.

On Feb. 14, 2018, he tweeted this at Sen. Rob Portman: “@robportman hey rob. How much did they pay you to look the other way? 17 kids are dead. If not now, when?” That was the date of the mass shooting at a school in Parkland, Florida.

 

[beagle9]

What about the Dayton shooter? Elizabeth Warren's fault? or nah

Except the only source for that is right wing websites.

Did Liz demonize people as rapists and murderers and animals and call where they came from Shitholes?

Are you saying that amongst all races that there aren't those who match the descriptions of the above spoken by you ? If you do, then you are not being honest, and are playing for one team against the other at all or any cost.

 

[Blues Man]

If some guy is sitting in his truck watching porn while mama shops and he sees this guy park, dress up, load up and start to wak towards WalMart. Can he shoot him in the back no questions asked or would the LW kooks (like those here) call that Murder and demand he be locked away for using a gun in a gun free zone?

Yes, it would be murder. Under our constitution, the gunman has the right to load up and walk right into that mall. State and local government may have laws to stop him, but our constitution not only allows but grants the person the right.

As long as gun ownership is a right, and not a privileged what happened in El Paso and Dayton can continue everyday and twice on Sunday. As the weapons become more powerful, the number killed will keep increasing.

So repeal the second amendment.

FYI if that was even remotely possible it would have been tried already

 

[JoeB131]

A private citizen owns guns for one overwhelming reason;self defense.

The bad acts of a fraction of a percent of people is not reason enough to tell the rest of the population they can't own guns

Sure it is.

One kid gets impaled by a lawn dart, they banned the sale of lawn darts.

Seven people took poisoned Tylenol, that changed the way that all medicines are packaged

We have 33,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries a year, and we all just shrug and say, "Nothing we can do about it" in the only country where this happens on a regular basis.

You can ride your unicorn to the ceremony for the repeal of the second amendment too

I'd be all for that... but given the founding slave rapists made it too difficult to fix their mistakes, there's a lot of ways to fix this problem.

The first one would be to repeal the law that immunizes gun manufacturers and gun stores from liability when one of their preferred customers goes on a rampage. A few hundred million paid out in lawsuits, they'll suddenly not be so in love with the second amendment.

 

[OldLady]

All our violence is concentrated into small easily avoidable areas.
None of the three mass shootings in the past week were in those "small, easily avoidable" areas. There is no place left that is safe.
After weeks like this, I walk out my front door, same as I do every day, but thinking "is someone going to shoot me?" If it can happen in Gilroy and ElPaso and a trendy part of Dayton, it can happen in my neighborhood.

No man is an island, entire of itself. Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main...
or something like that.

Mass shootings account for less than 1% of all murders

Care to guess where over 70% of all murders take place?
Care to guess where the mos violent crimes take place?

All you seem to care about is less than 1% of all murder victims

I'm pretty damned concerned about them, yeah.

and yet you never mention them all you seem to post about is the less than 1% of all murders

Why is this suddenly about me?
Yeah, I care about that less than 1% of murders. Is there a reason I shouldn't?

It's all you seem to care about.

When was the last time you started or posted in a thread about the 70% of murders that happen in our urban areas?

Is there something about them that you would like to say?

 

[Blues Man]

Because they secured their borders and strictly regulate diversity.

What a load of exceptional whinging bullshit. What they do is strictly regulate firearms. Enjoy your massacres, you're going to have a lot of them.

Going to...? What am I saying?

The last picture is inaccurate...it should show a pile of 20 bodies.

But you would still blame the gun and not the person

 

[Blues Man]

Mass shootings account for less than 1% of all murders

Care to guess where over 70% of all murders take place?
Care to guess where the mos violent crimes take place?

All you seem to care about is less than 1% of all murder victims

I'm pretty damned concerned about them, yeah.

and yet you never mention them all you seem to post about is the less than 1% of all murders

Why is this suddenly about me?
Yeah, I care about that less than 1% of murders. Is there a reason I shouldn't?

It's all you seem to care about.

When was the last time you started or posted in a thread about the 70% of murders that happen in our urban areas?

Is there something about them that you would like to say?

I have said it already in other threads

 

[Blues Man]

A private citizen owns guns for one overwhelming reason;self defense.

The bad acts of a fraction of a percent of people is not reason enough to tell the rest of the population they can't own guns

Sure it is.

One kid gets impaled by a lawn dart, they banned the sale of lawn darts.

Seven people took poisoned Tylenol, that changed the way that all medicines are packaged

We have 33,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries a year, and we all just shrug and say, "Nothing we can do about it" in the only country where this happens on a regular basis.

You can ride your unicorn to the ceremony for the repeal of the second amendment too

I'd be all for that... but given the founding slave rapists made it too difficult to fix their mistakes, there's a lot of ways to fix this problem.

The first one would be to repeal the law that immunizes gun manufacturers and gun stores from liability when one of their preferred customers goes on a rampage. A few hundred million paid out in lawsuits, they'll suddenly not be so in love with the second amendment.

LAwn darts were sold as a child's toy

Guns are only sold to adults

See the difference?

So if you want to hold a gun maker responsible for murder will you also hold alcohol manufactureres responsible for all drunk drivers and deaths from alcoholism?

 

[JoeB131]

The shooter in ohio supported your view...

I'll wait for a credible news source to report that. You realize anyone can claim to be anyone on Twitter, right?

The El Paso shooter shared your views on the environment......

Uh, he shared your view on Mexicans... and he wasn't shooting litterers on Saturday, he was shooting Mexicans.

 

[JoeB131]

LAwn darts were sold as a child's toy

Guns are only sold to adults

See the difference?

They got them off the market completely, they didn't say, 'Adults only'