Breaking Bad

[BothWings]

I stopped watching TV entertainment shows due to too much soft (and hard) porn, overuse of taboo expletives, too much violence, too much revenge which is against Christian principles, and ethical irresponsibility.

I'm not Christian and not particularly religious...but I tend to agree with the fundamental morals of many pious religious people, including Christians. Thumbs up to what you said.

 

[rightwinger]

I agree with that, except about Jesse. The actor did a fantastic job. He’s done well after BB staring in several series.

Jesse was not a likable character
But in the end, he was the only one with values and the only one left standing

 

[iamwhatiseem]

My favorite characters in Breaking Bad are the mute, enigmatic Salamanca twins and their wheelchair bound bell ringing uncle Hector "Tio" Salamanca.
Also thought the DEA brother-in law Hank was a fascinating character you couldn't help but like.
Of course Gustavo "Gus" Fring the laconic owner of Los Pollos fast food chicken restaurant and super villain bad ass was an awesome character.
But I wish they'd have killed off Jesse Pinkman early in the series. The guy who played him was a terrible actor, and the character just wasn't believable on any level.

He was not supposed to be in the show beyond the first series. But he was a fan favorite, so they wrote him in.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yeah, having your kids watch shows which attempt to glamorize drugs and make heroes of drug dealers is wonderful. We need to have meth-use validated so future generations will become desensitized to it and maybe even try it and find it easier to justify it because some fake charismatic character on TV did it. It makes me fucking sick. I don't care how clever and creative the writers are. Lots of people who do bad things are clever and creative.

OK so you apparently never watched the show.
No one who watched this series would think this. Absolutely everything bad you can imagine happened to everyone involved.
All of the ugliness and violence that is the drug market was front and center in this series.
No kid would watch this show and think - "yeah looks cool, I think I want to sell drugs now"

 

[JohnDB]

When I watched Breaking Bad I was hoping the whole time Walter would give it all up. His students were absolutely perfectly portrayed.

You knew the whole time Jesse couldn't and wouldn't ever figure out what was good for himself...and Walter abused his relationship with Jesse knowing that the whole time.

Walter self-destructed himself and his family. Eventually they were complicit in his self destruction because they liked the money and the model of who he used to be.

Nobody held the high moral ground in the show...even Hank had issues. He kept covering up for his wife's kleptomania.

The prices everyone paid for their behaviors and attitudes were too high. Nobody got away clean. You hope for the best out of people and they usually let themselves down. People usually shoot themselves in the foot. Some use a BB gun and others a 155mm howitzer.

I found the characters completely believable. Do you license poor behavior because "everyone else has moral issues"?
Or do you stick to a different set of rules....ones not commonly held. Or do you fake it like every character in the series? Pretend to be honest but actually lie, cheat, abuse, and steal like everyone else?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

When I watched Breaking Bad I was hoping the whole time Walter would give it all up. His students were absolutely perfectly portrayed.

You knew the whole time Jesse couldn't and wouldn't ever figure out what was good for himself...and Walter abused his relationship with Jesse knowing that the whole time.

Walter self-destructed himself and his family. Eventually they were complicit in his self destruction because they liked the money and the model of who he used to be.

Nobody held the high moral ground in the show...even Hank had issues. He kept covering up for his wife's kleptomania.

The prices everyone paid for their behaviors and attitudes were too high. Nobody got away clean. You hope for the best out of people and they usually let themselves down. People usually shoot themselves in the foot. Some use a BB gun and others a 155mm howitzer.

I found the characters completely believable. Do you license poor behavior because "everyone else has moral issues"?
Or do you stick to a different set of rules....ones not commonly held. Or do you fake it like every character in the series? Pretend to be honest but actually lie, cheat, abuse, and steal like everyone else?

I think the show was so freaking awesome to many men... because we want to be Walter.
"Men live lives of quiet desperation" - this single sentence succinctly explains, what otherwise, takes volumes to explain what is manhood.
Every man wants to be in control of his world. Wants to have balls the size of cannon balls and be revered and feared by other men.
To be like Walter. Take control, look danger dead in the eyes and say fuck you. And stand there and watch them do nothing about it.
Just my two cents

 

[rightwinger]

I think the show was so freaking awesome to many men... because we want to be Walter.
"Men live lives of quiet desperation" - this single sentence succinctly explains, what otherwise, takes volumes to explain what is manhood.
Every man wants to be in control of his world. Wants to have balls the size of cannon balls and be revered and feared by other men.
To be like Walter. Take control, look danger dead in the eyes and say fuck you. And stand there and watch them do nothing about it.
Just my two cents

I wanted to be Gus

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I wanted to be Gus

HAha... well there is that.
He was basically a "Professional Walter" in this sense,

 

[Sunni Man]

I think the show was so freaking awesome to many men... because we want to be Walter.

Not me.
I thought Walter was a self-centered puke that needed a bullet in the brain.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Not me.
I thought Walter was a self-centered puke that needed a bullet in the brain.

Who doesn't love the scene where he tells Skyler (paraphrase) "I fooled myself into thinking I did all this for you and Jr., but it was all for me"
That was a powerful line in a defining moment of the series

 

[rightwinger]

Who doesn't love the scene where he tells Skyler (paraphrase) "I fooled myself into thinking I did all this for you and Jr., but it was all for me"
That was a powerful line in a defining moment of the series

Walt considered himself a failure in life

Cooking Meth was something he excelled at…..it made him proud

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Walt considered himself a failure in life

Cooking Meth was something he excelled at…..it made him proud

He didn't have the balls.
He allowed his partner to take all the credit for his invention, and therefore all of the money and power that came from it because he was too much of a wimp to be in charge. He let people run over him. Everyone, including Skylar.
Thus his alter ego, thus the hat and sunglasses which was akin to Superman and his cape.
The cancer diagnoses made him say "Fuck it... I'm doing it!!" For once in his life... HE... was in control.

 

[rightwinger]

He didn't have the balls.
He allowed his partner to take all the credit for his invention, and therefore all of the money and power that came from it because he was too much of a wimp to be in charge. He let people run over him. Everyone, including Skylar.
Thus his alter ego, thus the hat and sunglasses which was akin to Superman and his cape.
The cancer diagnoses made him say "Fuck it... I'm doing it!!" For once in his life... HE... was in control.

I never really understood why he sold out of Grey Matter
I thought it had something to do with his ex girlfriend

They seemed willing to take him back

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Did you guys like El Camino?
I did. I thought that was done really well also.

 

[rightwinger]

Did you guys like El Camino?
I did. I thought that was done really well also.

The first time I saw it was years after watching Breaking Bad. Much of it was lost on me

The second time I watched I had just binged Breaking Bad during COVID

Now I get it!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I never really understood why he sold out of Grey Matter
I thought it had something to do with his ex girlfriend

They seemed willing to take him back

Same here... that wasn't explained well.
I figured it was because he wanted his own thing, not bring him back for charity sake.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The first time I saw it was years after watching Breaking Bad. Much of it was lost on me

The second time I watched I had just binged Breaking Bad during COVID

Now I get it!

If you haven't seen it - watch the Netflix Documentary called "The Road to El Camino".. basically how they got to making that movie, and why they made it. Pretty good. Also on Youtube.

 

[BothWings]

OK so you apparently never watched the show.
No one who watched this series would think this. Absolutely everything bad you can imagine happened to everyone involved.
All of the ugliness and violence that is the drug market was front and center in this series.
No kid would watch this show and think - "yeah looks cool, I think I want to sell drugs now"

I have watched snippets and trailers for the show in the past and it is not the slightest bit attractive to me. I'm not interested in watching something which injects humor into that putrid culture. I watch alot of Cold Case Files and Forensic Detective REAL documentary stuff, which also disturbs me greatly...but at least then I am learning about the real world first hand, not this twisted crap. Watching those shows with me, my son has actually developed a strong interest in working in forensics and has actually learned something with a straight face.

 

[rightwinger]

I have watched snippets and trailers for the show in the past and it is not the slightest bit attractive to me. I'm not interested in watching something which injects humor into that putrid culture

I never saw Breaking Bad as funny

 

[BothWings]

I never saw Breaking Bad as funny

To HEAVILY support my point of view are all the youn-uns who work in my company who talk about the show laughing and joking with a gleam in their eye. Case and point. Not cool. Not the mentality we should be teaching today's youth. Hopefully the show eventually gets shelved or bought by some billionaire so it doesn't end up in reruns anymore.