Boycott Israel

[P F Tinmore]

Professor Chomsky

Professor Chomsky, and Norman Finkelstein, have been critics of Israeli policies. However, both firmly believe in a Jewish state in Palestine. They both support Israel in spite of is many faults.

 

[Indeependent]

Professor Chomsky

Professor Chomsky, and Norman Finkelstein, have been critics of Israeli policies. However, both firmly believe in a Jewish state in Palestine. They both support Israel in spite of is many faults.

The important point is that Jews will not behead a critic of Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So it is written: NO external intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state. IF you dont want parties --- THEN change the government to change the system.

They did. They created a new government structure in 2003. They elected a new government in 2006 that was trampled to death by foreigners. They legally constituted a new government in March of 2007 that lasted until June of 2007 when a US coup tried to replace the elected government with Fatah, the losers of the elections. The coup failed in Gaza but Fatah was placed back in power in the West Bank.

Since its inception, Palestine has been the poster child of illegal external interference.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

The never answered question.

How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?

 

[Indeependent]

So it is written: NO external intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state. IF you dont want parties --- THEN change the government to change the system.

They did. They created a new government structure in 2003. They elected a new government in 2006 that was trampled to death by foreigners. They legally constituted a new government in March of 2007 that lasted until June of 2007 when a US coup tried to replace the elected government with Fatah, the losers of the elections. The coup failed in Gaza but Fatah was placed back in power in the West Bank.

Since its inception, Palestine has been the poster child of illegal external interference.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

The never answered question.

How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?

Question answered...
Guns...the Arab Way.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Al-Husseini learned a lot in Berlin from his fellow Nazis ]

The resolution noted that “BDS positions and demands delegitimize and demonize Israel and thereby assign all blame for every evil in the region to Jews.”

The document continued that “Israel is the only democratic state and at the same time double standards are applied to Israel when, for example, the criminality of Hamas is ignored or played down.”

The Bavarian Greens said the “call for a boycott reproduces the National Socialist slogan ‘Don’t buy from Jews!'’’

The party urged all affiliates of the Greens, including the federal party, who are expected to be in Chancellor Angela Merkel’s new coalition government, to not cooperate with BDS.

(full article online)

Bavaria's Green Party: BDS same as Nazi 'Don’t buy from Jews' slogan

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, here we go... It's America's fault... It is never the fault of the Arab Palestinians.

So it is written: NO external intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state. IF you dont want parties --- THEN change the government to change the system.

They did. They created a new government structure in 2003. They elected a new government in 2006 that was trampled to death by foreigners. They legally constituted a new government in March of 2007 that lasted until June of 2007 when a US coup tried to replace the elected government with Fatah, the losers of the elections. The coup failed in Gaza but Fatah was placed back in power in the West Bank.

Since its inception, Palestine has been the poster child of illegal external interference.

(COMMENT)

If the Arab Palestinian is the poster child of illegal external interference, it is only because the territory was "inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world."

This seems to have been true in 1919, just as it seems to be true today; almost a century later. The Arab Palestinians are having trouble finding the capacity to establish a balanced and workable government.

It is what it is.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Professor Chomsky

Professor Chomsky, and Norman Finkelstein, have been critics of Israeli policies. However, both firmly believe in a Jewish state in Palestine. They both support Israel in spite of is many faults.

Norman Finkelstein attempts to defend Israel.

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, here we go... It's America's fault... It is never the fault of the Arab Palestinians.

So it is written: NO external intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state. IF you dont want parties --- THEN change the government to change the system.

They did. They created a new government structure in 2003. They elected a new government in 2006 that was trampled to death by foreigners. They legally constituted a new government in March of 2007 that lasted until June of 2007 when a US coup tried to replace the elected government with Fatah, the losers of the elections. The coup failed in Gaza but Fatah was placed back in power in the West Bank.

Since its inception, Palestine has been the poster child of illegal external interference.

(COMMENT)

If the Arab Palestinian is the poster child of illegal external interference, it is only because the territory was "inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world."

This seems to have been true in 1919, just as it seems to be true today; almost a century later. The Arab Palestinians are having trouble finding the capacity to establish a balanced and workable government.

It is what it is.

Most Respectfully,
R

They are not having trouble. It is basically impossible for the common Arab Population to get rid of their governments in the PA and Gaza as those governments are armed to the teeth. And will imprison or kill anyone who is against them, either side.

Mainly all Arab governments are totalitarian. That is all the Arabs and many Muslims know.

As long as all of that money and weapons are flowing from Iran, Qatar , EU and other places .....not much of a chance for any "balanced and workable government".

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm sorry, I had to chuckle at this. Well, it is the Annex to document A/51/889 S/1997/357 5 May 1997--- your favorite agreement; and the A/49/180 S/1994/727 20 June 1994.

So it is written: NO external intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state. IF you dont want parties --- THEN change the government to change the system.

They did. They created a new government structure in 2003. They elected a new government in 2006 that was trampled to death by foreigners. They legally constituted a new government in March of 2007 that lasted until June of 2007 when a US coup tried to replace the elected government with Fatah, the losers of the elections. The coup failed in Gaza but Fatah was placed back in power in the West Bank.

Since its inception, Palestine has been the poster child of illegal external interference.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

The never answered question.

How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?

(COMMENT)

The Palestinian Authority (PA) was established under the a set of agreements between the Government of the State of Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (hereinafter "the PLO"), the representative of the Palestinian people;

• Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area •
​

Article III
Transfer of Authority
1. Israel shall transfer authority as specified in this Agreement from the Israeli military government and its Civil Administration to the Palestinian Authority, hereby established, in accordance with Article V of this Agreement, except for the authority that Israel shall continue to exercise as specified in this Agreement.

• Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip •
​

CHAPTER I - THE COUNCIL
ARTICLE I -- Transfer of Authority

2. Pending the inauguration of the Council the powers and responsibilities transferred to the Council shall be exercised by the Palestinian Authority established in accordance with the Gaza-Jericho Agreement, which shall also have all the rights, liabilities and obligations to be assumed by the Council in this regard. Accordingly, the term "Council throughout this Agreement shall, pending the inauguration of the Council be construed as meaning the Palestinian Authority.​

Both of these agreement were co-sponsored by the US and Russian Federation. Now Article V of the Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area (AKA: Gaza-Jericho Agreement) talks about the Palestinian Authority at length.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

As long as all of that money and weapons are flowing from Iran, Qatar , EU and other places .....not much of a chance for any "balanced and workable government".

Indeed, including US money.

 

[P F Tinmore]

This seems to have been true in 1919, just as it seems to be true today; almost a century later.

Indeed, the Palestinian civilians are under the boot of a foreign military force.

They have not had a minute of their own to develop anything.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm sorry, I had to chuckle at this. Well, it is the Annex to document A/51/889 S/1997/357 5 May 1997--- your favorite agreement; and the A/49/180 S/1994/727 20 June 1994.

So it is written: NO external intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state. IF you dont want parties --- THEN change the government to change the system.

They did. They created a new government structure in 2003. They elected a new government in 2006 that was trampled to death by foreigners. They legally constituted a new government in March of 2007 that lasted until June of 2007 when a US coup tried to replace the elected government with Fatah, the losers of the elections. The coup failed in Gaza but Fatah was placed back in power in the West Bank.

Since its inception, Palestine has been the poster child of illegal external interference.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

The never answered question.

How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?

(COMMENT)

The Palestinian Authority (PA) was established under the a set of agreements between the Government of the State of Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (hereinafter "the PLO"), the representative of the Palestinian people;

• Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area •
​

Article III
Transfer of Authority
1. Israel shall transfer authority as specified in this Agreement from the Israeli military government and its Civil Administration to the Palestinian Authority, hereby established, in accordance with Article V of this Agreement, except for the authority that Israel shall continue to exercise as specified in this Agreement.

• Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip •
​

CHAPTER I - THE COUNCIL
ARTICLE I -- Transfer of Authority

2. Pending the inauguration of the Council the powers and responsibilities transferred to the Council shall be exercised by the Palestinian Authority established in accordance with the Gaza-Jericho Agreement, which shall also have all the rights, liabilities and obligations to be assumed by the Council in this regard. Accordingly, the term "Council throughout this Agreement shall, pending the inauguration of the Council be construed as meaning the Palestinian Authority.​

Both of these agreement were co-sponsored by the US and Russian Federation. Now Article V of the Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area (AKA: Gaza-Jericho Agreement) talks about the Palestinian Authority at length.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but that did not answer my never answered question.

 

[Hollie]

As long as all of that money and weapons are flowing from Iran, Qatar , EU and other places .....not much of a chance for any "balanced and workable government".

Indeed, including US money.

Indeed, western welfare dollars that are used as payments to Islamic terrorists, their families and enablers.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, I'm not sure that (as you say) the Arab Palestinians are "under the boot of a foreign military force." insure, as far as possible, public order and safety.

This seems to have been true in 1919, just as it seems to be true today; almost a century later.

Indeed, the Palestinian civilians are under the boot of a foreign military force.

(COMMENT)

For a majority of the existence of the post-Six Day War (1967) now a half century ago, the Arab Palestinians have established and demonstrated a clear history of narcissistic behaviors and serious criminal activity It is a subculture that responds to an inability to achieve goals and objectives of general political-military nature; resorting to behaviors that exhibits suicidal tendencies, fraud, kidnapping, hijacking, bombings, murder/mass murder, and other predatory activities of normally associated with psychopaths.

It has nothing to do with being under the boot; but rather, the inability to establish Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Any security measures the Arab Palestinian has to endure today is in direct response to such behaviors.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

This seems to have been true in 1919, just as it seems to be true today; almost a century later.

Indeed, the Palestinian civilians are under the boot of a foreign military force.

They have not had a minute of their own to develop anything.

Indeed, it is not surprising that Arabs-Moslems are not willing or able to develop anything when their every waking moment is focused on everything not related to developing a working societal structure.

Indeed, it is interesting that societies / nations including South Korea, India, Hong Kong, etc., had no need for weak excuses that you shower on Arabs-Moslems. Those societies / nations managed to take control of their futures and build first world societies.

What do you think separates those places noted above with so many Islamist societies / Nations?

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm sorry, I had to chuckle at this. Well, it is the Annex to document A/51/889 S/1997/357 5 May 1997--- your favorite agreement; and the A/49/180 S/1994/727 20 June 1994.

So it is written: NO external intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state. IF you dont want parties --- THEN change the government to change the system.

They did. They created a new government structure in 2003. They elected a new government in 2006 that was trampled to death by foreigners. They legally constituted a new government in March of 2007 that lasted until June of 2007 when a US coup tried to replace the elected government with Fatah, the losers of the elections. The coup failed in Gaza but Fatah was placed back in power in the West Bank.

Since its inception, Palestine has been the poster child of illegal external interference.

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

The never answered question.

How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?

(COMMENT)

The Palestinian Authority (PA) was established under the a set of agreements between the Government of the State of Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (hereinafter "the PLO"), the representative of the Palestinian people;

• Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area •
​

Article III
Transfer of Authority
1. Israel shall transfer authority as specified in this Agreement from the Israeli military government and its Civil Administration to the Palestinian Authority, hereby established, in accordance with Article V of this Agreement, except for the authority that Israel shall continue to exercise as specified in this Agreement.

• Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip •
​

CHAPTER I - THE COUNCIL
ARTICLE I -- Transfer of Authority

2. Pending the inauguration of the Council the powers and responsibilities transferred to the Council shall be exercised by the Palestinian Authority established in accordance with the Gaza-Jericho Agreement, which shall also have all the rights, liabilities and obligations to be assumed by the Council in this regard. Accordingly, the term "Council throughout this Agreement shall, pending the inauguration of the Council be construed as meaning the Palestinian Authority.​

Both of these agreement were co-sponsored by the US and Russian Federation. Now Article V of the Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area (AKA: Gaza-Jericho Agreement) talks about the Palestinian Authority at length.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but that did not answer my never answered question.

[How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?]

It goes like this:

Hamas is the wolf
Fatah is the fox.

The Wolf attacks and attacks. It attacked so much that Abbas ran to Ramallah.
The Fox plays at being moderate and at wanting peace while never wanting it.

Post 2005 disengagement from Gaza, the wolf fired thousands of rockets into Israel.

Post 2005 Fatah continued to play the Oslo Accords game started by Arafat.
It goes like this:
We are moderate. We are peaceful. We want peace with Israel.
But we want our endless demands first, or there will be nothing.
We will not talk to Israel, seat for negotiations with Israel, sign a peace treaties with Israel until all of our demands are met.

Demands:
Free ALL prisoners first, then we will talk
Return all the refugees to Israel first, then we will talk.

And it goes on and on and on ad nauseam .

Create BDS, so that Palestinian demands will be forced on Israel.
Destroy Israel's credibility, turn it into an Apartheid state, etc, etc.

Never, ever, sit to negotiate.

End of lesson.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh, get off it.

[
OK, but that did not answer my never answered question.

(COMMENT)

How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?

The PLO, made the designated "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" by the Arab League, establish the Palestinian Authority in accordance with the international agreements.

This is one of those trick questions.

Mahmoud Abbas is Chairman of the PLO.
Mahmoud Abbas controls Fatah through the PLO.
Mahmoud Abbas is President of Palestine
The Palestinian Authority is dominated by members of Fatah.

I thought HAMAS and the Abbas Government (the PA) reconciled their differences.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh, get off it.

[
OK, but that did not answer my never answered question.

(COMMENT)

How did Fatah, the losers of the elections, get to be the "PA" in the West Bank?

The PLO, made the designated "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" by the Arab League, establish the Palestinian Authority in accordance with the international agreements.

This is one of those trick questions.

Mahmoud Abbas is Chairman of the PLO.
Mahmoud Abbas controls Fatah through the PLO.
Mahmoud Abbas is President of Palestine
The Palestinian Authority is dominated by members of Fatah.

I thought HAMAS and the Abbas Government (the PA) reconciled their differences.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, I'm not sure that (as you say) the Arab Palestinians are "under the boot of a foreign military force." insure, as far as possible, public order and safety.

This seems to have been true in 1919, just as it seems to be true today; almost a century later.

Indeed, the Palestinian civilians are under the boot of a foreign military force.

(COMMENT)

For a majority of the existence of the post-Six Day War (1967) now a half century ago, the Arab Palestinians have established and demonstrated a clear history of narcissistic behaviors and serious criminal activity It is a subculture that responds to an inability to achieve goals and objectives of general political-military nature; resorting to behaviors that exhibits suicidal tendencies, fraud, kidnapping, hijacking, bombings, murder/mass murder, and other predatory activities of normally associated with psychopaths.

It has nothing to do with being under the boot; but rather, the inability to establish Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Any security measures the Arab Palestinian has to endure today is in direct response to such behaviors.

Most Respectfully,
R

Horsecrap, Palestine was born under British belligerent occupation and they have not had a minute to now without being occupied. Palestine has been occupied for a hundred years.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ NOT boycotting Israel ]

Lawmakers from the US, Australia, Brazil, Guatemala, South Africa, Malawi, the Ivory Coast, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, The Netherlands, the Czech Republic, Finland, Greece, and Lativa joined in Sunday’s event. A nine-member bipartisan delegation from the South Carolina State Legislature was included in the event.

(full article online)

'Political isolation? It is irrelevant'