Boycott Israel

[P F Tinmore]

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

 

[Indeependent]

The All-Palestine Government was established by under the cover of the Arab League; but, actually by the Egyptian Government as a Puppet.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. It was a foreign government imposed on Palestine by military force against the wishes of the vast majority of the people.

So what is your point?

You never answered my question of when you actually studied the Treaty.

Which treaty?

The Treaty of Lasagna of which you bleat but of which you know dipshit.

 

[Indeependent]

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

And you seem to be the only person on earth who holds this opinion.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The All-Palestine Government was established by under the cover of the Arab League; but, actually by the Egyptian Government as a Puppet.

Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. It was a foreign government imposed on Palestine by military force against the wishes of the vast majority of the people.

So what is your point?

You never answered my question of when you actually studied the Treaty.

Which treaty?

The Treaty of Lasagna of which you bleat but of which you know dipshit.

So, what about it?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

And you seem to be the only person on earth who holds this opinion.

Where is the flaw in my assessment?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore,, et al,

I think you have your timeline screwed-up again.

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

(COMMENT)

The first half of the 20th Century was not the era of the mass media, instant replay, and internet messaging. Things were not always seamless.

• The Allied Powers agreed on the framework of the Mandate at the 1920 San Remo Convention; which included the concepts of the Jewish National Home and the Jewish Agency.
• In 1922, the Mandate for Palestine was issued; wherein the Allied Powers have agreed to Article 4, and the creation of the Jewish Agency.
• In August 1929, The Jewish Agency officially came into being; the same month as the 1929 Arab riots in Palestine.
• In May 1948, the Mandate terminated but subsequently the Zionist General Council decided that the Agency should continue to deal with immigration to Israel, absorption of immigrants, land settlement; as a quasi-Governmental Agency.
• In 1952, "the Knesset enacted the World Zionist Organization (WZO)-The Jewish Agency (Status) Law, defining the WZO as "also the Jewish Agency."

※→ WORLD ZIONIST ORGANISATION and JEWISH AGENCY (STATUS) LAW 5713-1952​

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

(COMMENT)

This is disinformation, not grounded in fact or

Prior to the end of the Mandate, the Jewish Agency was one of a choir of Jewish representatives that coordinated with the United Nations Palestine Commission (which was a legal entity administered under United Nations Mandate) on the Jewish self-determination action to declare independence; to secure their blessing.

There was nearly a seamless transition between the UK Mandate period and the State of Israel authority under Independence.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Prior to the end of the Mandate, the Jewish Agency was one of a choir of Jewish representatives that coordinated with the United Nations Palestine Commission (which was a legal entity administered under United Nations Mandate) on the Jewish self-determination action to declare independence; to secure their blessing.

Where did it say that they were authorized to declare a Jewish state and who would give them the land for their state?

And where did it say that the Jewish Agency existed separate from the Mandate?

BTW, the Jewish Agency was an advisory body to the Mandate with no power of authority.

 

[Shusha]

Where did it say that they were authorized to declare a Jewish state and who would give them the land for their state?

You have to be authorized before you can declare a State?! By whom?! Where do you come up with stuff like this?

 

[Indeependent]

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

And you seem to be the only person on earth who holds this opinion.

Where is the flaw in my assessment?

The flaw?
The Treaty is a big ass document that references other documents and you try to bullshit everyone that you've mastered it.
But then again, this very conversation is a retread of how I pointed out your bullshit a little over a month ago.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

And you seem to be the only person on earth who holds this opinion.

Where is the flaw in my assessment?

The flaw?
The Treaty is a big ass document that references other documents and you try to bullshit everyone that you've mastered it.
But then again, this very conversation is a retread of how I pointed out your bullshit a little over a month ago.

You are dancing around the question.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

And you seem to be the only person on earth who holds this opinion.

Where is the flaw in my assessment?

The flaw?
The Treaty is a big ass document that references other documents and you try to bullshit everyone that you've mastered it.
But then again, this very conversation is a retread of how I pointed out your bullshit a little over a month ago.

You are dancing around the question.

The problem is, you do not understand the issues.
You do not understand the documents, the treaties, the Mandates, the
everything, and YET you post as if you were an expert in security, in treaties, in Mandates, etc etc.

Keep dancing, dancing man, or start singing. It won't make any difference in your ability to understand what the issues are all about.

 

[Hollie]

The principle purpose of the Jewish Agency was to advise and cooperate with the British Mandate Administration of Palestine...

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

And you seem to be the only person on earth who holds this opinion.

Where is the flaw in my assessment?

The flaw?
The Treaty is a big ass document that references other documents and you try to bullshit everyone that you've mastered it.
But then again, this very conversation is a retread of how I pointed out your bullshit a little over a month ago.

You are dancing around the question.

That’s your usual tactic when you’re left with no option but to retreat.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate. When the Mandate left, they had no authority.

So, before the end of the Mandate they had no authority to create a state. After the end of the Mandate, they had no authority to be there.

And you seem to be the only person on earth who holds this opinion.

Where is the flaw in my assessment?

The flaw?
The Treaty is a big ass document that references other documents and you try to bullshit everyone that you've mastered it.
But then again, this very conversation is a retread of how I pointed out your bullshit a little over a month ago.

You are dancing around the question.

The problem is, you do not understand the issues.
You do not understand the documents, the treaties, the Mandates, the
everything, and YET you post as if you were an expert in security, in treaties, in Mandates, etc etc.

Keep dancing, dancing man, or start singing. It won't make any difference in your ability to understand what the issues are all about.

Dance around what? You never specified what it was.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore,, et al,

This is an almost an invalid question.

Prior to the end of the Mandate, the Jewish Agency was one of a choir of Jewish representatives that coordinated with the United Nations Palestine Commission (which was a legal entity administered under United Nations Mandate) on the Jewish self-determination action to declare independence; to secure their blessing.

Where did it say that they were authorized to declare a Jewish state and who would give them the land for their state?

And where did it say that the Jewish Agency existed separate from the Mandate?

BTW, the Jewish Agency was an advisory body to the Mandate with no power of authority.

(COMMENT)

Q1: Where did it say that they were authorized to declare a Jewish state?

√ FUNCTIONS and POWERS - Chapter IV - UN Charter:

Article 10
The General Assembly may discuss any questions or any matters within the scope of the present Charter or relating to the powers and functions of any organs provided for in the present Charter, and, except as provided in Article 12, may make recommendations to the Members of the United Nations or to the Security Council or to both on any such questions or matters.

• The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) made the recommendation options. The UN General Assembly selected A/RES/181(II) 29 November 1947 as the Resolution to adopt.
※ As originally stated, the announcement from the Provisional Government was was issued:

§ Pursuant to Chapter I, UN Charter, Article 1(2) → principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples.
§ After completing the minimum "Steps Preparatory to Independence" - Part 1, Section "B" - A/RES/181(II).
§ Pursuant to the Preamble and Article 2, Mandate for Palestine,

≜ Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people,
≜ The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.​

Q2: Who would give them the land for their state?

• Invalid Question. The Question makes an incorrect presumption that the land was gifted from some entity, to some entity. --- OR --- The question presuppose that the land must be granted from some entity to some entity. Neither postulate is correct. This is a question of sovereignty and not ownership. I own the land on which my house sits; but it is sovereign federal territory.

• The Israeli People, immigrated to the Territory under the Mandate, have the right to self-determination, that they freely determine their political status; and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

• The Allied Powers in 1920 and the Allied Powers in 1947 that it was necessary to recognize the collective rights of the immigrant turned indigenous which are indispensable for their existence, well-being and integral development as peoples.​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

• The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) made the recommendation options. The UN General Assembly selected A/RES/181(II) 29 November 1947 as the Resolution to adopt.
※ As originally stated, the announcement from the Provisional Government was was issued:
§ Pursuant to Chapter I, UN Charter, Article 1(2) → principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples.
§ After completing the minimum "Steps Preparatory to Independence" - Part 1, Section "B" - A/RES/181(II).

Resolution 181 was rejected and never implemented.

What else do you have?

 

[P F Tinmore]

• Invalid Question. The Question makes and incorrect presumption that the land was gifted from some entity, to some entity. --- OR --- The question presuppose that the land must be granted from some entity to some entity. Neither postulate is correct.

Wrong! The Treaty of Lausanne ceded the territory to Palestine.

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Boycott Israel
※→ P F Tinmore,, et al,

This is an almost an invalid question.

Prior to the end of the Mandate, the Jewish Agency was one of a choir of Jewish representatives that coordinated with the United Nations Palestine Commission (which was a legal entity administered under United Nations Mandate) on the Jewish self-determination action to declare independence; to secure their blessing.

Where did it say that they were authorized to declare a Jewish state and who would give them the land for their state?

And where did it say that the Jewish Agency existed separate from the Mandate?

BTW, the Jewish Agency was an advisory body to the Mandate with no power of authority.

(COMMENT)

Q1: Where did it say that they were authorized to declare a Jewish state?

√ FUNCTIONS and POWERS - Chapter IV - UN Charter:

Article 10
The General Assembly may discuss any questions or any matters within the scope of the present Charter or relating to the powers and functions of any organs provided for in the present Charter, and, except as provided in Article 12, may make recommendations to the Members of the United Nations or to the Security Council or to both on any such questions or matters.

• The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) made the recommendation options. The UN General Assembly selected A/RES/181(II) 29 November 1947 as the Resolution to adopt.
※ As originally stated, the announcement from the Provisional Government was was issued:

§ Pursuant to Chapter I, UN Charter, Article 1(2) → principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples.
§ After completing the minimum "Steps Preparatory to Independence" - Part 1, Section "B" - A/RES/181(II).
§ Pursuant to the Preamble and Article 2, Mandate for Palestine,

≜ Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people,
≜ The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.​

Q2: Who would give them the land for their state?

• Invalid Question. The Question makes an incorrect presumption that the land was gifted from some entity, to some entity. --- OR --- The question presuppose that the land must be granted from some entity to some entity. Neither postulate is correct. This is a question of sovereignty and not ownership. I own the land on which my house sits; but it is sovereign federal territory.

• The Israeli People, immigrated to the Territory under the Mandate, have the right to self-determination, that they freely determine their political status; and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

• The Allied Powers in 1920 and the Allied Powers in 1947 that it was necessary to recognize the collective rights of the immigrant turned indigenous which are indispensable for their existence, well-being and integral development as peoples.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Please, explain this part:
"The Allied Powers in 1920 and the Allied Powers in 1947 that it was necessary to recognize the collective rights of the immigrant turned indigenous"

Who are the immigrant turned indigenous?

 

[Shusha]

Wrong! The Treaty of Lausanne ceded the territory to Palestine.

The Treaty of Lausanne ceded the territory to the Jewish people for their National Homeland.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wrong! The Treaty of Lausanne ceded the territory to Palestine.

The Treaty of Lausanne ceded the territory to the Jewish people for their National Homeland.

Link?