Bombing Iran, Trump gambles on force over diplomacy

My concern would be if the US was not threatened directly then how could Trump order a strike against a country that we are not at war with.


Putin is ready to start arming Iran

which puts this in the category of a proxy war

Thus by Trumps shooting his wad to soon, he has created a proxy war where other will die and eventually some americans who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Trump wants to be a war president but its only a proxy war.
The Ayatolla and Mullahs' stated policy is 'death to Israel and death to America.' If that isn't a threat, I don't know what is.
 
Trump did not try diplomacy as it is a unknown consept to him.

Donald Trump had said Thursday that he would decide within two weeks whether to get involved in Israel’s war with Tehran. In the end, it took just days.


he just order bombs away if they did not capitulate in his time frame he set.

Trump will have blood on his hands.

So what would be Irans response and it would be intresting. .

Basically he bombed a country that was not a war with the US but had noly threatened Isreal.

They do not have to attack American soil but how man Americans are out of the country?

Their will be blood on his hands.
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Oddly, you failed to include the 60 days that Trump gave the Ayatollah to sit down and negotiate and not change the course of negotiations regarding the JCPOA.
Additionally, you omitted the fact that since 1983, Iranians and their proxies have attacked Americans our soldiers, Marines and Navy on more than several occasions inflicting death and maiming.om thousands of our military,
This bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities was not only a wake-up to the Ayatollah, but a direct payback for the attacks on Americans.
 
President Donald Trump said Tuesday the U.S. knows where Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is hiding during the Israel-Iran conflict but doesn’t want him killed “for now.”

Trump urged, in a social media posting, Iran’s “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER” as the six-day conflict continues.
yes this is the Iran/Isreal problem

June 17th

That is now a president should talk if he wants peace.

Trump wants to be a war president or war dog

The Ayatolla and Mullahs' stated policy is 'death to Israel and death to America.' If that isn't a threat, I don't know what is.
They been saying that for years but is a th
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Oddly, you failed to include the 60 days that Trump gave the Ayatollah to sit down and negotiate and not change the course of negotiations regarding the JCPOA.
Additionally, you omitted the fact that since 1983, Iranians and their proxies have attacked Americans our soldiers, Marines and Navy on more than several occasions inflicting death and maiming.om thousands of our military,
This bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities was not only a wake-up to the Ayatollah, but a direct payback for the attacks on Americans.
 
My concern would be if the US was not threatened directly then how could Trump order a strike against a country that we are not at war with.


Putin is ready to start arming Iran

which puts this in the category of a proxy war

Thus by Trumps shooting his wad to soon, he has created a proxy war where other will die and eventually some americans who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Trump wants to be a war president but its only a proxy war.
trump wants to show the world he is a "tough guy. The TACO name stung him. Instead of letting Israel further degrade Iran, he decided he wanted some of the glory. "We had nothing to do with the attacks." became "We have total control of the air space over Iran." See the shift?

LOOK AT ME. IT WAS ALL MY IDEA. i AM A TOUGH GUY!
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President Donald Trump said Tuesday the U.S. knows where Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is hiding during the Israel-Iran conflict but doesn’t want him killed “for now.”

Trump urged, in a social media posting, Iran’s “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER” as the six-day conflict continues.
yes this is the Iran/Isreal problem

June 17th

That is now a president should talk if he wants peace.

Trump wants to be a war president or war dog


They been saying that for years but is a th
'but is a th' ??????
 
“Iran, the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier.”

Then trump lies for some reason unknown

Yet by Thursday, the same day he instructed his press secretary to announce he was giving Iran two weeks to return to the negotiating table before deciding on a strike, allies who spoke to him said it was clear that the decision was already made.

why would he lies it is not like Iran can stop the attack So he says he will give them a time table but has alread apprvied the strike that would happen in a couple of days.

I guess he felt that Iran would shoot the plaines down if they knew it was comming.

He lies to people he is negotiating with.
 
“Iran, the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier.”

Then trump lies for some reason unknown

Yet by Thursday, the same day he instructed his press secretary to announce he was giving Iran two weeks to return to the negotiating table before deciding on a strike, allies who spoke to him said it was clear that the decision was already made.

why would he lies it is not like Iran can stop the attack So he says he will give them a time table but has alread apprvied the strike that would happen in a couple of days.

I guess he felt that Iran would shoot the plaines down if they knew it was comming.

He lies to people he is negotiating with.
That was 2 weeks MAXIMUM, you loogan. You didn't even listen to what Trump said did you? You're parroting the lamestream, Democrat controlled, legacy media.
 
That was 2 weeks MAXIMUM, you loogan. You didn't even listen to what Trump said did you? You're parroting the lamestream, Democrat controlled, legacy media.
Hey loogan the source says 2 weeks other say the same thing .

other post are saying the same thing

how does it feel to be wrong all the time?
 
“Iran, the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier.”

Then trump lies for some reason unknown

Yet by Thursday, the same day he instructed his press secretary to announce he was giving Iran two weeks to return to the negotiating table before deciding on a strike, allies who spoke to him said it was clear that the decision was already made.

why would he lies it is not like Iran can stop the attack So he says he will give them a time table but has alread apprvied the strike that would happen in a couple of days.

I guess he felt that Iran would shoot the plaines down if they knew it was comming.

He lies to people he is negotiating with.
The Art of the Steal
 
For nearly a half-century the United States has squabbled with Iran's Islamic Republic but the conflict has largely been left in the shadows, with US policymakers believing, often reluctantly, that diplomacy was preferable.

“Trump's order of strikes on Iran's nuclear sites, the United States -- like Israel, which encouraged him -- has brought the conflict into the open, and the consequences may not be clear for some time to come.”


Trump long ago abandoned diplomacy, never giving it a chance.

The US’s unwarranted, meritless attack is proof of that.
Diplomacy with terrorists? GTF outta here
 
And you know better, huh?
Hell no I don't, but there are foreign policy experts who do. Are they talking to Trump? No, there don't seem to be any working for him.

If they did talk to him, would he listen? Unlikely.
 
Hell no I don't, but there are foreign policy experts who do. Are they talking to Trump? No, there don't seem to be any working for him.

If they did talk to him, would he listen? Unlikely.
"foreign policy experts" got us into wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
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For nearly a half-century the United States has squabbled with Iran's Islamic Republic but the conflict has largely been left in the shadows, with US policymakers believing, often reluctantly, that diplomacy was preferable.

“Trump's order of strikes on Iran's nuclear sites, the United States -- like Israel, which encouraged him -- has brought the conflict into the open, and the consequences may not be clear for some time to come.”


Trump long ago abandoned diplomacy, never giving it a chance.

The US’s unwarranted, meritless attack is proof of that.
OMG that is such bullshit....

First off, the French never saw a battle they wouldn't run from....Now, they lie....Trump tried for 60 days to come to some sort of agreement with Iran, which would have staved off this attack. They refused. And, when the President saw that Iran was mere weeks away from having the technology, and the means to build not one, but reports are up to 10 nukes, Trump acted decisively, and took out that ability.

Trump still would like Iran to talk and come to an agreement. This is what's called Peace through Strength. And it is effective.

Now, if the Ayatollah decides that he wants to continue to act irrationally, and defy, then he will pay the price.

And, all the pussies in the world can just STFU, and thank us for once again saving their collective asses.
 
For nearly a half-century the United States has squabbled with Iran's Islamic Republic but the conflict has largely been left in the shadows, with US policymakers believing, often reluctantly, that diplomacy was preferable.

“Trump's order of strikes on Iran's nuclear sites, the United States -- like Israel, which encouraged him -- has brought the conflict into the open, and the consequences may not be clear for some time to come.”


Trump long ago abandoned diplomacy, never giving it a chance.
Diplomacy had its chance for "nearly a half-century" before Trump even entered the picture.

I'm not saying that bombing the nuclear sites was the answer - I don't know - but for Christ's sake, at least acknowledge that diplomacy wasn't working.
 
Diplomacy with terrorists? GTF outta here
Isn't that what your Orange Gaud has bee boasting about? He ran on making a deal with Iran. Israel crushed them and trump THEN wants a piece of the action. "Look at me! I crushed Iran!"
 
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